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    If there is one silver lining to come out of the current situation, it is that quite a lot of people are starting to realise just how much Eddie Davies actually did for this club, and how much he actually bankrolled us to eventually see the heights we saw. It wasn’t a tax fix, he didn’t “take loads out of the club”, there was nothing to see in the interest charged on the early debt and it wasn’t just clever accounting. We lost money just like we do now, just to a greater extent, but that man chucked money in every year to cover the shortfall and therefore let us carry on with top 8 premier league football and European adventures. The shit he got accused of, just because people didn’t take the time to understand what was actually happening, rather than just listening to the first thing they heard, was criminal. He should have a statue outside of the ground, instead his name got dragged through the mud and he ended his tenure on “bad terms”. If there is one lesson to be learnt it is that joe public shouldn’t be so quick to shout about the first theory that they hear, it’s often the wrong one.
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    I am a Remainer but one of the saddest element of the debate post referendum is the lack of understanding of why people voted to Leave. Not aimed at you but when you see people being dismissed as stupid or racist for voting out it shows a lack of appreciation of the 'other side' if there is so little reason to leave why was there a vote in first place and why did Remain not piss it ? The largest trading block argument is very good and persuasive, but to be a member of that block you are also expected to be tied to a political structure and rules that do not seem to be delivering much for certain sectors of the UK. I have said many times that the argument about leaving could upset the economic balance of the country does not work if you are from a real shit poor area, the very ones who voted in biggest numbers to leave. I know many Remainers who are heartbroken that future generations will not get the chance to share European culture as 'we did'. Well if you one of the millions of people who are 'just getting by' are you going to vote for 'change' or maintain the political status quo ? If you are from one of the forgotten communities' why would you vote to remain ? The question could be 'why did so many vote to remain ?' Before the vote expert after expert queued to say why leaving was bad but despite this millions voted to Leave, people listened to Katie Price rather than Stephen Hawkins. The Leave campaign understood that people were voting emotionally rather than practically. (The leader of the Leave campaign said this when quizzed about their campaign by MPs) so why do you think people are going to feel any different now ? Cameron went to Brussels to negotiate an improved deal and got his arse handed back to him, if being a member of the EU is so brilliant why were we trying get a better deal ? The EU had a chance when it was a smaller collection of countries each of whom you could see contributing in their own way. However as membership had grown in 2004 (Cyprus, Czech Republic, Estonia, Hungary, Latvia, Lithuania, Malta, Poland, Slovakia, Slovenia) and then 2007 with Bulgaria and Romania joining has it become stronger and more robust ? Or bigger but weaker. Did any of those 12 increase the value per head of being a member. As the EU is massively linked a political as well as economic union you can not use the trading block argument with also admitting that the inclusion of these countries has also bought with it significant extra political pressures and put simply 'more mouths to feed.' Basically it has become too big for the purpose it was established for and major reform was/is needed however there is simply not the political will to make those changes. Lets be honest if you were putting together a trading block now which of the 12 newcomers would you want in it ? So the vote became about having time,focus and resource to deal with internal UK issues rather than having the political issues of the rest of Europe needing to be considered, so going back to the people who vote to leave all they are doing is saying 'stop spending time worrying about countries we had never heard about 5 years ago and make the NHS work instead. Now you can argue that leaving will not solve the issues for the NHS as an example and I would agree but leaving things as they are is certainly not working. In the simplest of terms - vote remain we are doing OK do not rock the vote OR vote leave and makes things change. Why if you are one of the losers in the UK at the moment would you not vote for a change ? I voted Remain cos I am doing OK and thought the whole process of leaving would be a nightmare and cost a fortune in time and money but i do understand why people voted to leave.
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    Depends how much their strikers cost? if it’s more than ours then we have an excuse early doors
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    Forgot about the return button.
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    Shame about McGinlay, the blokes Bolton through and through and has provided us with some cracking football moments on the pitch, i remember playing one half with him and one half against him in a charity match after he retired and he was brilliant in the dressing room with the lads, and that's how i want to remember him. He is probably frustrated as the rest of us, but what he fails to remember he played the majority of his Bolton career in the 2nd & 3rd tier of football, he has probably woke up today feeling a right nob, especially as there were hardly anyone at the Victoria Hall last night (Looking at the LoV photo). At the end of the day, he will always be Super John McGinley.
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    Good. Better live than red.
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    They've only just been done for £14m for a striker that will be marginally less effective than Madine.
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    There’s a fair chance most Premier League clubs know more about our youth set up than most Bolton fans.
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    My 2 week old is called Nathaniel Got to do it properly
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    Is it a Bolton thing to focus on a footballer's height, we are the club of course who turned down future World Cup winner Alan Ball because he was too small What matters is if Connell can play football not his height Eden Hazard 5 ft 8, Mo Salah 5ft 9, Andre Iniesta 5ft 7 Sergio Aguero 5ft 8 - they'd have b een rejected by some on here because they weren't big enough, Fill a midfield with 6 footers like Liam Trotter and Paul Comstive.... problem is if they are third rate with a football their height doesn't matter
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    I think some deal will materialise. It will have to, as Britain has never previously existed outside the EU, and will doubtless crumble to a broken wasteland.
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    TM’s deal will pass in Parliament when the EU remove the unilateral triple lock, the ERG and the DUP will muster enough votes to get the deal through. The EU will not move till the last minute when it looks like ‘no deal’ it’s who blinks first, we need to hold our nerve, a deal will be agreed The EU will hang on a bit to see if the Undemocratic snowflakes in Parliament Greive, Cooper, Soubry and the rest of the shits can cause some turbulence next week
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    Haha. I do fell like banging my head against the wall at times. Constantly going round in circles “he needs to just fkin sell and go” err he is selling and wants to go ”well he needs to lower his fkin price” what is his price? “50 million” (or any other figure they just make up) ”we need to go in admin” ”he needs to stop paying his son 250k a year” You know the dance, it’s non stop. anyway I’ve got Bonnar biting on twitter at the moment, I’ve asked him why he’s not reported on the trust....he decided to swerve that question! Oh, as for the club legend, well he’s apparently been on the phone today to one of the lads asking who I was as he’s seen my posts on FB they’re biting at the top now.
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    Record employment level in the UK. Not everything is rosy; plenty of low paying jobs, but by the fuck this post brexit vote recession is biting hard....
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    How anyone can bring gartisde in to this is beyond me. The man had more kick backs going on than a fuckin rodeo, Shit loads of companies registered at the Reebok and folded within months, Dodgy dealings with agents, high court appearances and featured in a bbc panaorama sting about his activities. His dealings led to the club nearly going bust, with inconceivable contracts with companies and agents all over the show that were rinsing the club and eddies fortune dry. Ken isn’t fit to lace the blokes boots in the dodgy chairman stakes. But nobody gave a flying fuck because we were playing Bayern Munich.
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    They're trying an amendment/motion to stop a no deal. Not sure exactly how that would work in all honesty. Actually quite staggering, get together and sort a deal. TM may then get a brief extension while it's fully sorted. But no, let's keep avoiding doing what was agreed. Cunts. You Cooper, Anna Soubry remind me of a pair of frilled lizards, necks bulging while they profess to be doing stuff for the people. Cuntshovelers the lot of em.
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    Don’t think I’ve ever cheered on a mob of lads attacking our own fans before.
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    You can't blame the club for taking action against McGinlay, but it's probably a bad tactical/PR move in the same way that "banning" Iles has turned him from a joke figure into an esteemed local journalist/martyr. It would have been a better move to just let McGinley make a fool of himself on Monday.
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    Spider; Cameron tried your approach and got zilch. Hence the referendum. In both instances the EU acted as you explained in your reasons for your out vote. Sadly, the only way reform is going to happen, is for someone to take action as we have. What the results will be, only time will tell.
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    Your views and predictions are totally shit and worthless. Just shut the fuck up
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    Excluding the debts written off by Davies anderson has removed many potential overheads and poorly arranged contracts including - various consultancy arrangements - monstrous wage bill - renegotiated contracts to remove ridiculous bonuses. - poor arrangements with suppliers (heatcotes) the removal of those has reduced the chances of potential debt in the future. At the exact same time he’s managed to - keep the squad paid (99%) of the time - retained investment in infrastructure and training facilities - attracted events at the ground/hotel which sets us up as a long term location for future events (gigs rugby and youth cups) - attracted sponsorship deals such as uni bol (we could have ended up with no one) Perhaps the accurate term is ’removed long term debts and saved the fucking club’
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    Going to all that effort to find out all that personal information to post on a forum that you were banned from for years is, even for you, weird
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    I regard the essential outcome is to leave the EU. We were taken into it without consent, and then lied to in order to agree after the event. If than means that the EU choose to exclude the UK from agencies then so be it. It seems more sensible to have active co-operation on many things, but the most important thing is that we leave the EU itself. By the way, I am real so let's see what the coming weeks bring.
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    Well it is as simple as that if people took a step back and broke it down instead of ranting and raving about circumstances that go on within the club that 99% of the time they have no idea about. Yes the debts may be different. Payment scructures may differ but the fundamentals are the same. If the clubs costs are say £1m a month including all bills and we’re only bringing in £800k then we’re juggling creditors just like juggling water, gas & electric or car finance etc if you’re struggling at home. you can only piss with the cock you’ve got. My point isn’t about Gartside or whoever chasing a dream and us being dragged along. It’s about KA, now and what he’s having to deal with (without the benefit of a well off relative to lend you some money you never have to give back) if people are protesting and not seeing the issues they want their fucking heads testing
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    She might not have succeeded, but she at least tried. The treacherous bastard opposite, won't be happy until a hammer and sickle flies from Buck House.
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