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Can't believe some folk saying they wouldn't go if we sold the ground and rented it back or if Fawaz bought the hotel etc etc. Just admit you can't be arsed going any more. Stop looking for excuses - it happens. I'd rather be there with 3000 hardcore than a bunch of moaning bastards. I just hope there's a club for the 3000 of us to support. I'm sure there will be in some form or another - maybe even a league 2 team in 12 months time but I've been to the 4th before and will again if needs be. FWIW, I think many of these "you'll never see me again" are spouting hot air out of frustrati

Folk want too much. Sorry but they do. This is a failing business in administration. And a complex administration at that. There may be a undertone of football matters but unfortunately, and quite frankly they dont need to say shit. I'll wait for the email about season tickets but until then, I'll get on with the rest of my life. Folk just being negative and second guessing everything need to chill the fuck out. It's utterly pointless.

Why do you think that the room was empty in the first place? 😊

On a lighter note, I doff my titfer to whoever did this 😃

I'm inclined to agree. There are too many clubs who have chased the glory paying for it now. If we get through this situation, it must never be allowed to happen again by whoever the owner at the time happens to be. If that means paying players buttons in comparison to now and only affording a L2 team, so be it. We won't be the only club who has to do that and it would all level out again, once more and more clubs reach the same conclusion

The point is you don’t believe, but you never did. In your country v a foreign bureaucracy, and are happy to take the piss. This is why I mention “brainwashing “

Clearly a false dichotomy ignoring the third way, invoking the ceremony of the removal of the BWFC car sticker.

Jesus bastard wept, why's it going to take till fucking sundown for fuck's sake, i've heard it's that Anderson, why has nobody come round to tell me why it's going to take till bastard sundown, that nodding dog with the Bolton badge is coming out of the car & it's coming out now, i'm never going again, ever, boooooo

Fuck off Dame Edna

Jol you are spot on. The govt cuts are the biggest factor in law and order all over the country. If your figures for London are correct only a barmpot would blame the mayor, unfortunately you are dealing with one.

Everyone still on the lash at Wycombe if we go pop?

And the above is why I don’t bother with you. A splurge of garbage responses back-to-back, deflection and refusing to answer the only question I ask (whilst demanding I answer yours - which I did). Get back to love making on the sunbed.

Well JC is in charge and he sets the tone

No I couldn't.

Nobody knows that it'll be reet, but I suspect it will But seeing as there's only one option we have two choices Keep the faith and hope it sorts out or whinge and fcuking whine that it's all taking too long and they're shit owners cos they have no money

Boris actually held up a fucking fish and proclaimed it was all the fault of the EU that we had laws to protect us from listeria. Little did the fuckwit know it is actually UK laws that protect us from listeria. Not that he has a twatting clue about food safety or the fishing industry but no fucker cares because he will deliver a unicorn Brexit.

Not sure he needs to suggest anything! just a pretty succinct account of our current situation aimed at those who have spent all summer giving out that it'll be reet and people shouldn't be worried. Im pretty worried tbf

He should be sacked, and sent to prison. I'm not sure how the actions of one individual officer should decide if the entire Met should or shouldn't receive more funding though.

Clearly, I wouldn’t expect the brainwashed to acknowledge that they have been brainwashed!

Don't read this thread Mounts, its not good for you

We are hoping to organise a tour for the falls so not sure if that involves lunch or not yet. On a separate note looks like Sau has joined your lot this afternoon just in time for the 1895 cup, he'll be missed

Aye, can see that. Thing is, not all players can play for the top few. If they want a career in football, then they'll still have to play lower down, just for a bit/lot less money. Similarly, not all fans can watch, the big clubs sell out as it is. Maybe a cultural shift back to the provincial teams, so long as they offer a reasonable product at a decent price.

Mostly. Why? Has anything happened?

It's getting to the point when I'd like to see Bassini rock up in his blue loafers with 25 million large in a couple of heavy duty bin bags

Well for one, the other clubs in our position were able to fulfill fixtures despite being in administration. And fwiw I think it's been established that precedent would say we'd be very unlikely to be banished to some jumpers for goalposts level upon liquidation, although with the season being so close I'd say all bets are off. But all that is by the by. The point I was making is that there have been massive red flags about the viability of FV's takeover for months, and far from it being a case of drama queens or 'it's not like buying a packet of crisps', those concerns seem to be valid.

You don't seem to have allowed for any finance costs attaching to the £25m FV are supposed to be coming up with or even the loans that are already on the books. There might be scope for cutting out more costs but costs tend to rise over a three year period and I rather doubt that the club is capable of pulling in anywhere near as much in 2019/20 as it did in 2016/17 when it was pushing for promotion with 10,000 season ticket sales and an average matchday attendance of 15,000. There will be no more Holdsworth/Anderson costs but I'd guess that these will be uncomfortably exceeded by admini

The admin was appointed by the Eddie Davies Trust. Ken appointed Quantuma for the hotel. This has been so well established and explained in the media and on here - so many times. I find it impossible to believe you don't know this, given this is very central to the issues being experienced now.

The reality of our position is probably finally hitting home. There is nobody prepared to bankroll the club with their own money - if there were they'd have bought it. Therefore anyone buying the club is looking to run it on a commercial basis. But the commercial opportunities are mainly tied up in a business undergoing a separate admin process. There is also an initial investment required to ensure we have a playing squad - it seems FV cannot afford to do that alongside paying the outstanding player wages. I fear this is only going one way and Sluffy unfortunately is on the money.

Yup - been a long time, started on rivals as Normid, like others have said got me through my first job after uni inputting exam data! Best moment for me was the support on here when I did the Manchester half, I only know Kent in person so it was really touching to raise so much from everyone on here. Thank you again. Here’s to the next 20!

Obviously arm chair supporters....

What is the standard procedure for a club in our position then? The closest example I can thank is Rangers and in their case the club was liquidated a new phoenix club formed and they were gifted a place three divisions lower than they were in (and I say gifted because any other club bar Celtic and maybe Hibs and Hearts would have been kicked even further down the league tiers). If FV don't come through then that's it - we are liquidated. Even the players won't be guaranteed their money because football creditors and payment minimums of 25p in the £ won't apply, everything is sold u

24th Feb - FV agree HOTs with Ken 17th Apr - Ken agrees to sell his shares to Bassini 13th June - FV named preferred bidders. 18th June - Administators state that they're aiming to complete the following week. 29th June - FV finally agree HOTs with Administrators. It's now nigh on 18th of July, we're back to the players being on strike and the person in charge calling them twats on the website. Anyone trying to claim that everything is in hand and standard procedure for a club in our position is as mental as the guy ripping stickers off his Fiat 500.

Youri Djorkaeff’s son scored for St Mirren tonight. Feel old now.

Only been on here the last 4 years Watched from afar for many a year and met people at aways who told me to join as they were on it. Wish I knew who they were Went through a really shit period in my life and the stuff on here used to make me smile so I thought “Fuck it” and joined in. Never regretted it As jules says it’s the stuff that people do for others that’s fucking amazing Only a JCL on here really so referring to what jules said my two big moments were the support for Mike Hunt’s daughter and the support for mine, and her website, after her suicide attempt. Her amaz

Facts don't bother me - conjecture and contortions of the truth do... This is why I always look at the source of a story - regardless of the political stance it reinforces. I have about 12 pushirons in various states of 'restoration' - two of which are BMXs 😕

I'd rather be at hibs than fucking Salford. As poor as the spl is its definitely above EFL leagues 1 and 2. Best of luck to the lad.

Might be me.being a thick fucker but Little had tweeted loads earlier that I cant find now including saying players couldnt afford to get to training when spazzy daz could have told them a day rover is £4.60. Its shit not getting paid but folk need to be wary of making new heroes of players talking bollocks and maybe with an extra axe to grind.

Hemp is mainly used in apparel and as we are household textiles hardly ever come across hemp, however I have just had a little look on google and hemp is a great product, can be ecologically sourced is more durable than cotton, absorbent and breathable, in fact I am so impressed have just asked my suppliers to look out for household products in hemp.

I've met loads of sound people, and Garrp from on here

Casino unable to get his head round clockwise and anti-clockwise on the M60:

Very shortly, ....at precisely 22-56 in 1944 The first platoon of 8,500 British soldiers as part of Operation Tonga boarded a fleet of gliders to touch down behind enemy lines in Northern France, to take out bridges and key points as part of the preparation for D-Day. 800 of those very brave men lost their lives in the operation, to save us from true fascism. When people these days cheaply call others Nazis,fascist,far right etc, please think of the real meaning of the word and the hypocrisy shown when so many died fighting actual far right fascism. Spare a moment fo