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He's a good lad, Peely. Probably a piss head from some some other part of Bolton. We'e all in it together

This is his year. He's the Iranian Eusebio.

Would be the finest anti-Trump/anti-Tory echo chamber in history 😄

Leeds midfielder

Black pudding & mustard👌

Know someone who was abused by Bennell. Never had kids because he had thought he would abuse them. Apparently its text book, when his Mum found out, she blamed herself for not noticing. It affected not just the person but all the family too. No punishment is to severe for animals like that.

No We’re an island. None in, none out whilst locked down. Anyone arriving from overseas goes straight in the bin. No exceptions. Ive got the Brexit mob on my side with this in one simple action. Cant fail.

I am slightly surprised pikeys would lower themselves to stay in Leigh.

Missus said they were better dressed than Leythers 😂

There are a lot of artist types who seem to think a lot jobs are below them.

They would surely increase the quality of people in Leigh?

Most despicable race of people on the planet. Id rather by house burn down than those cunts moving in close by.

Thats the downside of Rudy's tits.

Most of my plasma ends up in a sock

Sure it was travellers? Sounds like Leythers just being Leythers to me.

Surely they won't know what a poor decision is, until they make it and see that it doesn't work........ Obviously the areas with local restrictions have still seen cases rise, but as DazBob points out, we'll not know if they would have been worse or the same (Nobody thinks that there would have been less cases....unless you're a loon of course) As the cases are still rising, then they have to do something, they can't just sit back and let it ride out and just see what happens, and I'm not sure anybody really wants or expects that to happen. The next logical step, for those areas with a rising amount of cases is to impose further and more draconian restrictions, and hope that starts to push the number down. If it doesn't, then they have to go back to the table and think of something else. No matter what anybody thinks, another lockdown is coming, the Porrdige Botherers have led the way on this, and I'd be very surprised if the NW and NE didn't follow suit in the next few days

72/73

Fill the vests with meat not bombs

Johnny Evans, you’re a cunt!

@Alf Hartigan hunters so far. Meat pie 7/10. Nowt wrong with it but not in same league as greenahlghs or ye old pastie shop meat pies. would also say Wilsons Kearsley meat pies are better have a pastie and a meat and potato pie to sample for tomorrow as well so shall report back.

Whitty and Vallance - 21st Sept Let me just start by reminding you that this disease spreads by droplets, by surface contact and by aerosols. Hence the hands, face, space but also to remind you that the way that we reduce the spread is by limiting our number of contacts, by reducing contact in environments where spread is more likely. Those are crowded environments, indoor environments, poor ventilation. When people have an infection, the vast majority of people get an antibody response, and we know that some of those antibodies are so-called neutralising antibodies. They do indeed protect against the virus. We also know that they fade over time, and there are cases of people becoming re-infected. So this is not an absolute protection, and it will potentially decrease over time. What we see is that something under eight per cent of the population have been infected as we measure the antibodies, so about eight per cent, so 3 million or so people, may have been infected and have antibodies. It means that the vast majority of us are not protected in any way and are susceptible to this disease. There may be other forms of protection that increase that number a little bit. Two other broad points I wanted to make. The first one is that there are, as we’ve said from the beginning, and it really does need to be repeated, four ways in which this virus is going to have a very potential significant effect on the population’s health if we let it grow out of control. The first, the easiest to, to identify, is direct Covid deaths. People who get the virus and die of the virus. The second would be if the NHS emergency services were overwhelmed by a huge spike, and that is what the extraordinary efforts of the population allowed to prevent happening in the first wave we met. The third however is very important, and I think its importance should not be understated, which is if the NHS is having to spend a large proportion of its effort in trying to treat Covid cases because the numbers have gone up very, to a very high levels and trying to put in case, in place, large numbers of systems to try and reduce the risk of transmission in hospitals, it will lead to a reduction in treatment for other areas, in early diagnosis of disease, and in prevention programmes. And so there is an indirect effect on deaths and on illness from this impact on the NHS if we allow the numbers to rise too fast. But on the other side, we also know that some of the things we’ve had to do are going to cause significant problems in the economy, big social impacts, impacts on mental health, and therefore ministers making decisions, and all of society, have to walk this very difficult balance. If we do too little, this virus will go out of control and we will get significant numbers of increased direct and indirect deaths, but if we go too far the other way, then we can cause damage to the economy which can feed through to unemployment, to poverty and to deprivation, all of which have long-term health effects. So we need always to keep these two sides in mind. My final point is that if I increase my risk, a lot of people say, well, can’t people just be allowed to take their own risk? The problem with a pandemic or an epidemic infection like this is if I as an individual increase my risk, I increase the risk to everyone around me and then everyone who’s a contact of theirs, and sooner or later the chain will meet people who are vulnerable or elderly or have a long term problem from Covid. So you cannot in an epidemic just take your own risk. Unfortunately, you’re taking a risk on behalf of everybody else. We have to try and do this in the least damaging way, but we, we all know we cannot do this without some significant downsides, and this is, this is a balance of risk between if we don’t do enough the virus will take off, and we at the moment, that is the path that we are clearly on, and we, if we do not change course, then we’re going to find ourselves in a very difficult problem

Unless we get a vaccine soon this is the only way, it’ll dawn on folk & the government eventually, further lockdown will critically damage our way of life. Higher category risk Isolate if you wish, government help and support if needed, the rest crack on.

Last night you called Sturgeon a loon on another thread for taking strong covid measures. Today you are proclaiming Trump as a fantastic watch. A man who has told us it would be gone by Easter and recommended injecting yourself with bleach. With all due respect, I think your judgement on these matters is fucked.

Simple this If you want to crack on, and think Covid is "nothing to fear" (Copyright Donald Trump Oct 2020) then you sign a waiver explaining that you are happy not to be treated by the NHS if you are diagnosed with it. This way, the NHS stays protected, you can have your civil liberties back and the balance is struck. That fair @Mounts Kipper ??

I refer you back to my previous post. PM me pal we’ll talk business, we’ll make a killing so to speak. This time next year Rodders (if COVID/The ChinaRussianUSA trifecta/BWFC playoff heartbreak doesn’t kill us) we’ll be millionaires.

Out of interest I assume everyone knows someone who has had it. Does anyone know anyone who has been fined for breaking the rules ? This is becoming increasingly polarised but whatever ‘side’ you are on and whatever level of restrictions you support surely the most effective thing will be to enforce the rules. I get the impact on the hospitality sector but we have all seen images and probably have personal stories about places ignoring the rules. Non enforcement is now leading to everyone being punished so a Covid compliant responsible bar gets punished.

It's a lose - lose situation. And some people want someone to blame. Everyone you see in the media has their own unique circumstances, it's very difficult to see the whole picture, and to plot a path to the end because we haven't done this before. I've lost a business for now. Ive lost a school friend and a work colleague (found out yesterday - 62yr old, he was very fat, died in the ambulance on the way to hospital, had "breathing difficulties" a few hrs before - don't know if it will be blamed on covid or not), my 15yr old sons education and job prospects look bleak. This winter isn't going to be good. But, my old dad is alive, my auntie in her care home is alive, my uncle in Preston is alive, my FIL and MIL are alive, my wife's job has been propped up by the govmt, my kids are going to school (well one is in his room isolating for a bit). We will recover. ZOE is showing the number of people in the NW reporting covid symptoms as plateauing for 2 weeks - something is causing this. ZOE has been consistently accurate since Spring. I mentioned before that I hope this doesn't get lost in the frenzy we are about to see over the next few weeks. Something has stopped the rise in the amount of folk in the NW feeling ill. That's a positive

Last post from me. People don't like restrictions, especially the ones that effect them directly. Making other sectors of society have more restrictions, calling out the restrictions that you don't like, criticism of the govmt for introducing them, is human nature. Folk forget that without them, you or a family member, or a close friend might already be dead.

Its kings college pal, the blokes running ZOE.

She’s a fucking loon, queen of the raving loony SNP. Not one of the SNP is anywhere close to normal.

Nanny state at the moment, it should be left to your own discretion, with government guidance for best practice.

I stood next to vernon kay at oxford away. Tune in next week for more celebrity anecdotes.

A slow, painful, lingering death..... They who mock at us, they who laugh at us, they now know their days are numbered 😁

The name of Crew Alex is tarnished to fuck. Think they should be packing it in...