burndenpaddock Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 Completely stunned...jealous...mystified. Fair play to the mockneys but why would 2 world class players who the likes of united, arsenal, chelsea etc were interested in, end up at west ham?? sounds very dodgy to me. Weren't MSI recently investigated in Brazil for links with the Russian Mafia? Is there a Chelsea connection ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxxxxx Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 Sounds really fishy. How can West Ham afford them on permanent deals? Why would they choose West Ham over other bigger clubs? Something doesn't sound right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White79 Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 Sounds really fishy. How can West Ham afford them on permanent deals? Why would they choose West Ham over other bigger clubs? Something doesn't sound right. It states on the official webiste that: The pair have been signed for an undisclosed fee and put pen to paper on permanent contracts with the Club this afternoon. All other aspects of the transfers will remain confidential and undisclosed. Definatley a shady deal of sorts but thats moden football for you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted August 31, 2006 Moderators Share Posted August 31, 2006 marchotti on talknonsense says these two were offered to chelsea, united and arsenal in the last few days he's suggesting its likely they're not here for long, ie until the folks that own em - msi - decide to move them on or that msi are going to be announced as new owners of whammers soon he also said that while its often been said, its never been proved that abramovic has any links to msi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piemon Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 Spud can be world class....without doubt. and Maybe Johnson, Hibbert is already Super World Class! Anelka will score more goals than AJ this season pablo both very good players not world class mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxxxxx Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 Maybe we should bid like 2 million for Ronaldinho, see where that takes us - after all, it has been a weird day in the football market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted August 31, 2006 Moderators Share Posted August 31, 2006 http://observer.guardian.co.uk/sport/story...1557921,00.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgywheel Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 With all the corruption rumours, and the secrecy behind the deals, i conclude a investigation needs to be carried out and a minimum of 40 point deduction for both the spammers and chelski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 I'm sure that most West Ham fans don't give a toss if it is a dodgy deal or not, as they will be entertained by a couple of world class players for at least a season. If they end up winning a cup or finishing top six, does it really matter how the deal has come about?................I think not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted August 31, 2006 Moderators Share Posted August 31, 2006 you underestimate the corinthian spirit of the happy hammers not fer them instant gratification home grown pie n mash types only Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Carlos Posted August 31, 2006 Moderators Share Posted August 31, 2006 The players were told WHU was an eel eat club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burndens Bogs Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 (edited) West Ham are a feeder club for Chelsea, ie - Lamps, Joe Cole,Glen Johnson etc, so you can bet Tevez and Mascharano are just being " bloodied" in the Premiership by West Ham - then they'll both join Chelsea next season when they are ready. Edited August 31, 2006 by Burndens Bogs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristol_wanderer Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 I'm not sure about these two. They are considered world class because they have played for Argentina, but IMHO the odd good performance for their country does not make them effective premiership performers. Veron, Kleberson, Diao, Cisse, Diouf are all examples of non europeans who have flopped here after big money deals following promising world cup displays. Tevez and Mascherano may prove succesful, but there is bound to be a period of acclimitisation as they have never played European football, never mind premiership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Carlos Posted August 31, 2006 Moderators Share Posted August 31, 2006 I'd rather not have a club than be a feeder club in another club's pocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exiledwhite2 Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 I'd rather not have a club than be a feeder club in another club's pocket. Exactly West Ham have been a feeder / Reject club for Spurs and Chelsea for years now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 (edited) Anelka will score more goals than AJ this season pablo both very good players not world class mind Well thats by no means a given......looking at the way the 2 teams play, I can see Nolan scoring more than Anelka. For you to get the most out of Anelka, style of play will need to be changed. But they wont be far from each other, same price range....which now look a snip to be honest! You cant just presume Anelka will start well....ive seen it with my own eyes that Johnson has started well!! Edited September 1, 2006 by Pablo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Slippy Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 hmm interesting to note that none other than our friend Yossi Benayoun is also on the MSI books.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiggy Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 I'm sure that most West Ham fans don't give a toss if it is a dodgy deal or not, as they will be entertained by a couple of world class players for at least a season. If they end up winning a cup or finishing top six, does it really matter how the deal has come about?................I think not I would agree with you, other than the fact that many hammers have made a big point of playing down Chelsea's recent triumphs and the fact that they have bought rather than built their way to the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darcy Lever FC Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 The deal is dodgy as a ??20 note, They are at WHU to be in the shop window when they get their big money move WHU do not see a penny of the transfer fee it goes to MSI company who inturn will buy WHU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules_darby Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 The deal is dodgy as a ??20 note They don't have ??20 notes yet in Darcy Lever? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andybwfc Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 I have been chatting to a West Ham fan today, they reckon it's a one-year "try before you buy" deal, after which they have the option to pay the big fee or let them go. (Chelsea) As MSI has been trying to buy into West Ham, the suspicion is that they'll try for a stake in the club in return for the players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exiledwhite2 Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 I have been chatting to a West Ham fan today, they reckon it's a one-year "try before you buy" deal, after which they have the option to pay the big fee or let them go. (Chelsea) As MSI has been trying to buy into West Ham, the suspicion is that they'll try for a stake in the club in return for the players. Yep, my Hammers mates have said exactly the same, 1 year deal for a small fee, but with large fees if they want them next year Basically loan deals, as far as I can see And I assume the 'purchase prices' will allow other clubs to step in to buy them if they also meet the price Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andybwfc Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 Yep, my Hammers mates have said exactly the same, 1 year deal for a small fee, but with large fees if they want them next year Basically loan deals, as far as I can see And I assume the 'purchase prices' will allow other clubs to step in to buy them if they also meet the price These 2 players are going to cost at least 45 million for both! There is no way West Spam will afford that! It gives them both the time to *climatise, get used the pace of the Prem, our culture, play regularly and increase their price tag! Only Chelsea and Urinals will be able to afford them! Something in their contracts will say if a club bids more than a million they can speak to them! These 2 are Chelsea bound! Definately! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exiledwhite2 Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 These 2 players are going to cost at least 45 million for both! There is no way West Spam will afford that! It gives them both the time to *climatise, get used the pace of the Prem, our culture, play regularly and increase their price tag! Only Chelsea and Urinals will be able to afford them! Something in their contracts will say if a club bids more than a million they can speak to them! These 2 are Chelsea bound! Definately! Aye, that seems the long and short of it, they are loanees being groomed for Stamford Bridge - if they prove good enough in the prem. And for all I don't like West Ham, it's sad to see them reduced to this. I suspect that's why we've not had the influx of Hammers on here today that we'd have expected. They know this is an insult to their club. And what happens next year if they do well and piss off to Chelsea - West Ham's team will be decimated. Not really good long term thinking. Of course, the intial disbelief we're all feeling may turn out to be shock, and they may be bona fide West Ham players. I just don't see it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chim Chimineeee Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 Wiggy, you're absolutly right. After yesterday's hype, the same questions and reservations are cropping up, all over our sites. Despite what the media might like to portray. As for MSI, they're so guarded in how they operate, that any fans or even newspaper's idea of what's happening is pure speculation. Commonly held belief that Abramovic is behind them, which in my opinion is disasterous for the game, on top of what Chelsea have already done. But there's also been as many newspaper reports in the past that have traced MSI back to another Russian, who can't stand Abramovic, and speculate that MSI are a front for him to earn the same 'resectability' with all his money in the same way as Abramovic. Either way, it ain't good for the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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