Thorpey Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 I'm no Prem Manager but two major observations from this weekend. Yesterday at OT we were screwed whenever we went tight at the back or dropped off. If we went tight they played in behind us and beat us for pace. If we dropped off they played into feet up front and played through us in the last third with movement as our markers weren't tight. Watching Swansea today, they never gave Arsenal time on the ball at the back by pressing high and if the ball made it through to the midfield, they were there and nicking it away. What happened to the days when we hassled and harried from the front, SKD flying in and defenders wetting themselves. 'Wash' N'gog & Klasnic won't / can't do it which leaves us stuffed as Muamba and NRC get sod all support from Eagles and Petrov. So 3 / 4 players who don't help defend, reliance on 2 in the middle against an attacking 4 man midfield and being clueless at the back as to what we're supposed to be doing. Sort it out Owen. p.s. In Owen I trust. Just hope he sees what I see! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter HomerJay Posted January 15, 2012 Site Supporter Share Posted January 15, 2012 Our closing down is shit from all players. To the point of where I don't actually think they are told to do it. We just stand off and let them play, whoever they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medwaywhite Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 2 post i gree with hope coyle reads this post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Carlos Posted January 16, 2012 Moderators Share Posted January 16, 2012 Let the centre back have the ball as much as he wants, close down in the final third. Worked for Fat Sam. Ngog or whoever could run himself into the ground, there will always be an easy ball with Eagles or Petrov stood watching, or just do what everyone else does and exploit our lack of full-backs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
passmosster Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 I'm no Prem Manager but two major observations from this weekend. Yesterday at OT we were screwed whenever we went tight at the back or dropped off. If we went tight they played in behind us and beat us for pace. If we dropped off they played into feet up front and played through us in the last third with movement as our markers weren't tight. Watching Swansea today, they never gave Arsenal time on the ball at the back by pressing high and if the ball made it through to the midfield, they were there and nicking it away. What happened to the days when we hassled and harried from the front, SKD flying in and defenders wetting themselves. 'Wash' N'gog & Klasnic won't / can't do it which leaves us stuffed as Muamba and NRC get sod all support from Eagles and Petrov. So 3 / 4 players who don't help defend, reliance on 2 in the middle against an attacking 4 man midfield and being clueless at the back as to what we're supposed to be doing. Sort it out Owen. p.s. In Owen I trust. Just hope he sees what I see! Agreed except for the last sentence. Whichever way you look at it, only having 37% possession against any team means you will be very lucky to get a result. It's been like this for a year now, so Coyle has had plenty of time to sort it. But his buys in the summer, especially Eagles have made it worse. You have to have midfield wide players who can tackle and retain the ball, otherwise you're always in a 4 v 2 or 3 situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpey Posted January 16, 2012 Author Share Posted January 16, 2012 Let the centre back have the ball as much as he wants, close down in the final third. Worked for Fat Sam. That was the problem at OT. Close down too tight in the final third and they played it in behind and exploited our lack of pace. Drop off in the final third and they play to feet and play through us with intricate footie. That's why we can't carry non defending type players in out predicament. Other teams will have picked up on it and will exploit as they have been doing for most of the season. Unfortunately we don't have the same type of players now that Big Sam had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Carlos Posted January 16, 2012 Moderators Share Posted January 16, 2012 I don't think you need a type of player to have 2 banks of 4, forcing the team so have speculative shots. However, it's by the by, we now need snookers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 I don't think you need a type of player to have 2 banks of 4, forcing the team so have speculative shots. However, it's by the by, we now need snookers. Which is why we have Steve Davis on the coaching staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Carlos Posted January 16, 2012 Moderators Share Posted January 16, 2012 And why we brought Riley in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules_darby Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Riley has come into the team right on cue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athywhite_Mike Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Steve Davis.... plant pot Waheey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Bill Werbeniuk is our kit man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Carlos Posted January 17, 2012 Moderators Share Posted January 17, 2012 Everybody's doing the Len Ganley stance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted January 17, 2012 Moderators Share Posted January 17, 2012 coyle will soon be back in the dhss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted January 18, 2012 Moderators Share Posted January 18, 2012 fuckin ell, it's fred barber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whites man Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 A few seem to be watching with Dickie Davies Eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOWTUN BAKED Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 How do you defend from the front when your strikers are in your own penalty box at corners/free kicks around the box? Even against fookin' Macclesfield? JAL, or is that another thread? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enzo gambaro Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 How do you defend from the front when your strikers are in your own penalty box at corners/free kicks around the box? Even against fookin' Macclesfield? JAL, or is that another thread? I really fucking hope not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpey Posted January 21, 2012 Author Share Posted January 21, 2012 I'm no Prem Manager but two major observations from this weekend. Yesterday at OT we were screwed whenever we went tight at the back or dropped off. If we went tight they played in behind us and beat us for pace. If we dropped off they played into feet up front and played through us in the last third with movement as our markers weren't tight. Watching Swansea today, they never gave Arsenal time on the ball at the back by pressing high and if the ball made it through to the midfield, they were there and nicking it away. What happened to the days when we hassled and harried from the front, SKD flying in and defenders wetting themselves. 'Wash' N'gog & Klasnic won't / can't do it which leaves us stuffed as Muamba and NRC get sod all support from Eagles and Petrov. So 3 / 4 players who don't help defend, reliance on 2 in the middle against an attacking 4 man midfield and being clueless at the back as to what we're supposed to be doing. Sort it out Owen. p.s. In Owen I trust. Just hope he sees what I see! Thanks for reading Owen! Every single one of 'em tried their bollox off! Shows what a difference it makes when N'gog, Petrov and Eagles (bit lightweight!) hassle from the front. Fuckin' brilliant! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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