Todays Games

[Rudy]

1 hour ago, Not in Crawley said:

Does make me chuckle blokes getting het up over women's football. Don't like it? Don't watch.

I went to the women's FA Cup final a few years ago, was great and my daughter loved it. She is the only girl in her school team and it was good for her to see professional female players. 

Thankfully, views such as this are rapidly declining. Now, haven't you got a cloud you need to shake your fist at?

 

The standard of women’s football from ten years ago to now, is absolutely staggering

I hope they get more exposure and money especially at grassroots so girls get an equal platform to perform on as kids

[desperado]

1 hour ago, Not in Crawley said:

Does make me chuckle blokes getting het up over women's football. Don't like it? Don't watch.

I went to the women's FA Cup final a few years ago, was great and my daughter loved it. She is the only girl in her school team and it was good for her to see professional female players. 

Thankfully, views such as this are rapidly declining. Now, haven't you got a cloud you need to shake your fist at?

 

 

11 minutes ago, Rudy said:

The standard of women’s football from ten years ago to now, is absolutely staggering

I hope they get more exposure and money especially at grassroots so girls get an equal platform to perform on as kids

2 good posts.

In schools we are doing lots at the moment to promote and develop girls football. 

My daughter plays twice a week. As @Rudy says more exposure and more money can only be a good thing.

[Not in Crawley]

5 minutes ago, Rudy said:

The standard of women’s football from ten years ago to now, is absolutely staggering

I hope they get more exposure and money especially at grassroots so girls get an equal platform to perform on as kids

I thought it was excellent, the issue was the imbalance - Man City were so much better than West Ham

My middle daughter loves it, and it hasn't always been easy. On lad in her team (her best friend oddly enough) pulled her shorts down 'for a laugh' - the school dealt with it really well and got every lad in the school together to have a chat about equality. Nipping that sort of shite in the bud at a young age is good. her new secondary school is all girls so she'll obviously have a chance to try out for the team if she wants to. The only problem is that the abbrovation of the school name is SLGGS which doens't sound great being bellowed from the sidelines of an all girl's team... 

Its good to see that it is being treated the way it is now by clubs and I hope that one day we'll have the cash to really support a competitive women's team.

The way Liverpool treat their women's team is a disgrace though for a club of their size.

[Not in Crawley]

3 minutes ago, desperado said:

 

2 good posts.

In schools we are doing lots at the moment to promote and develop girls football. 

My daughter plays twice a week. As @Rudy says more exposure and more money can only be a good thing.

That's great to hear - more power to your school and your daughter.

I've been very impressed by secondary schools in their approach. My youngest doiesn't want to take the 11 plus so she'll be going to Canterbury High and the sports facilites there, along with the support for both sexes across all sports is mindblowing for a local comp when you consider what it was when we were at school.

[Rudy]

4 minutes ago, desperado said:

 

2 good posts.

In schools we are doing lots at the moment to promote and develop girls football. 

My daughter plays twice a week. As @Rudy says more exposure and more money can only be a good thing.

 

2 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

I thought it was excellent, the issue was the imbalance - Man City were so much better than West Ham

My middle daughter loves it, and it hasn't always been easy. On lad in her team (her best friend oddly enough) pulled her shorts down 'for a laugh' - the school dealt with it really well and got every lad in the school together to have a chat about equality. Nipping that sort of shite in the bud at a young age is good. her new secondary school is all girls so she'll obviously have a chance to try out for the team if she wants to. The only problem is that the abbrovation of the school name is SLGGS which doens't sound great being bellowed from the sidelines of an all girl's team... 

Its good to see that it is being treated the way it is now by clubs and I hope that one day we'll have the cash to really support a competitive women's team.

The way Liverpool treat their women's team is a disgrace though for a club of their size.

What people seem to forget is that the women’s professional game has only really been going for 20 odd years, it won’t ever be as big as the men’s game but no sport is, and they aren’t trying to compete.

They aren’t asking for equal pay, they want a platform and fair for sky for doing it. Sky aren’t showing them because they think oh we have to be diverse, funnily enough it’s being shown because it’s a professional sport and it gets viewers.

My little girl starts playing in September but it’s for her development and enjoyment because she loves it.

[Not in Crawley]

1 minute ago, Rudy said:

 

What people seem to forget is that the women’s professional game has only really been going for 20 odd years, it won’t ever be as big as the men’s game but no sport is, and they aren’t trying to compete.

They aren’t asking for equal pay, they want a platform and fair for sky for doing it. Sky aren’t showing them because they think oh we have to be diverse, funnily enough it’s being shown because it’s a professional sport and it gets viewers.

My little girl starts playing in September but it’s for her development and enjoyment because she loves it.

Spot on. Sky, of all companies, wouldn't be showing it if people didn't watch it.

Anyway, as I say, if folk don't enjoy it, no one is forcing anyone to watch it but that shouldn't stop the game growing and developing for those that do.

[Traf]

21 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

I thought it was excellent, the issue was the imbalance - Man City were so much better than West Ham

My middle daughter loves it, and it hasn't always been easy. On lad in her team (her best friend oddly enough) pulled her shorts down 'for a laugh' - the school dealt with it really well and got every lad in the school together to have a chat about equality. Nipping that sort of shite in the bud at a young age is good. her new secondary school is all girls so she'll obviously have a chance to try out for the team if she wants to. The only problem is that the abbrovation of the school name is SLGGS which doens't sound great being bellowed from the sidelines of an all girl's team... 

Its good to see that it is being treated the way it is now by clubs and I hope that one day we'll have the cash to really support a competitive women's team.

The way Liverpool treat their women's team is a disgrace though for a club of their size.

Yeah, come on the Slags sounds more like one of Gonzo's videos.

[Ani]

No problem with women footballers. No problem with women playing any support. 
 

The number of women pundits on tv at the moment is stupid. The problem is that a lot of them ain't great and feels like they got the gig because of they are women rather than being insightful. Plenty of male pundits have had a bash and fallen away be interesting to see which women keep going. 
 

Not sure there is sport where women deserve equal pay/prize money other than stuff involving horses. 

[Traf]

11 minutes ago, Ani said:

Not sure there is sport where women deserve equal pay/prize money other than stuff involving horses. 

Also sounding like one of Gonzo's videos

[Leyther_Matt]

23 minutes ago, Rudy said:

What people seem to forget is that the women’s professional game has only really been going for 20 odd years, it won’t ever be as big as the men’s game but no sport is, and they aren’t trying to compete.

I'd have said more like the last 5-10 years where it's truly been professional in terms of having dedicated coaches etc. Saw an interview with one of the older England goalkeepers who said she only had a goalkeeping coach in the last 3 years or summat daft.

 

[Rudy]

3 minutes ago, Leyther_Matt said:

I'd have said more like the last 5-10 years where it's truly been professional in terms of having dedicated coaches etc. Saw an interview with one of the older England goalkeepers who said she only had a goalkeeping coach in the last 3 years or summat daft.

 

Down to funding 

[Traf]

11 minutes ago, Leyther_Matt said:

I'd have said more like the last 5-10 years where it's truly been professional in terms of having dedicated coaches etc. Saw an interview with one of the older England goalkeepers who said she only had a goalkeeping coach in the last 3 years or summat daft.

 

And it's the keepers who need most coaching. 

The outfield players seem technically very good. Obviously not as physical or as good in the air as men, but you can see how far the game has gone in a short time, but the keeping is pretty poor (Scottish league standard). 

Perhaps women could/should play on a smaller pitch with smaller goals?

[MickyD]

30 minutes ago, Traf said:

Perhaps women could/should play on a smaller pitch with smaller goals?

They don’t want anything different to similar aged boys or men’s games. Oh, except, according to some refs, they’re allowed to use hands to protect their face from the ball, inside the area but without incurring a penalty.

My daughter played and had a ferocious right foot on her. Part of the game plan was for her to shoot, keeper doesn’t catch but elects to parry, daughter’s team mates mop up the spilled ball. Problem was, in one particular game, the players doing the parrying were defenders!

“Penalty!” Shouts I.

“Play on.” Responds the ref, “She was protecting her face!”

This happened again later in the game. Still no penalty.

I approached the ref after the game and asked him why no penalty. He told me to go away as it was only girls’ football.

“Only girls football? How fucking dare you!”

At this point he got his note book out and took my name; which I happily gave thinking nothing would come of it. £8 admin fee and £40 fine later meant maybe Mickey Mouse may have been a cheaper option.

 

[Dr. Feelgood]

 

1 hour ago, Mr Grey said:

Its shit and always will be.

Spot on.

An old school friend who went on to play for England, manage here & abroad & coach all over the place was asked to coach the England women's team in his specialised area.

He did, for 6 months & his considered view was that it was "laughably bad" and "deceptively slow".

His view on the goalkeeping is the same as eveyones but remarked that it was no worse, albeit more visible, that any other position. His judgment was that the England Women's team would not survive in the 2nd divisions of the Conference.

Edited April 27, 2021 by Dr. Feelgood

[tomski]

All for women’s football. Can’t see a reason to exclude anyone from playing. 
 

Couple of observations I’ve made fwiw.
 

No issue with women commentators. Viewing of a match has never been decided on who is commentating (I excuse Gary Rat boy on this)

I don’t particularly find the women’s game interesting but I could throw multiple men’s football scenarios o also have no interest in.

The but I do think is a bit silly is when they announce who is commentating as four time premier league winner or 3 time fa cup winner with females as I think it’s probably more embarrassing for them than inclusive as most will pick up on it. 
 

Also football needs a void to fill the many that are turning away from the game.

[Leyther_Matt]

1 hour ago, Rudy said:

Down to funding 

Without a doubt and will still be the case now. The difference between Chelsea, Man City, Man Utd and Arsenal and the rest of the league is staggering.

53 minutes ago, Traf said:

And it's the keepers who need most coaching. 

The outfield players seem technically very good. Obviously not as physical or as good in the air as men, but you can see how far the game has gone in a short time, but the keeping is pretty poor (Scottish league standard). 

Perhaps women could/should play on a smaller pitch with smaller goals?

Just like men's football, the goalkeepers are all really adept with both feet and are comfortable with the ball etc. Their shot stopping is unrecognisable to even only a few years ago, but unless there suddenly ends up being a raft of 6 foot plus keepers appearing then that's always going to be an issue.

[Roger_Dubuis]

The Man Utd  womens team was only founded in 2018 but already has more followers on instagram than 7 of the Premier League men's teams including Leeds United

[tomski]

1 minute ago, Roger_Dubuis said:

The Man Utd  womens team was only founded in 2018 but already has more followers on instagram than 7 of the Premier League men's teams including Leeds United

Man U have always attracted lots of twats 

[MickyD]

1 minute ago, Leyther_Matt said:

Without a doubt and will still be the case now. The difference between Chelsea, Man City, Man Utd and Arsenal and the rest of the league is staggering.

Just like men's football, the goalkeepers are all really adept with both feet and are comfortable with the ball etc. Their shot stopping is unrecognisable to even only a few years ago, but unless there suddenly ends up being a raft of 6 foot plus keepers appearing then that's always going to be an issue.

Got to admit, all the time I took daughter to training sessions, I don’t ever recall any of the keepers getting specialist training other than standing in goal while the others took pot shots.

[jeep]

18 minutes ago, tomski said:

Man U have always attracted lots of twats 

and cunts.....

[Tonge moor green jacket]

2 hours ago, Rudy said:

 

What people seem to forget is that the women’s professional game has only really been going for 20 odd years, it won’t ever be as big as the men’s game but no sport is, and they aren’t trying to compete.

They aren’t asking for equal pay, they want a platform and fair for sky for doing it. Sky aren’t showing them because they think oh we have to be diverse, funnily enough it’s being shown because it’s a professional sport and it gets viewers.

My little girl starts playing in September but it’s for her development and enjoyment because she loves it.

One in the media the other day (can't remember who) asking for exactly that.

Now, I know Crawley likes to look down his nose at folk, but he misses the point.

Folk aren't "bothered" about women's football coverage etc, they will either watch it or not- however its not a patch on the men's game, and that's despite clear improvements. For me, as I've said before, the goalkeeping is the biggest issue. Miles apart.

Historical evidence shows that at one time women's football was, for a short time, popular, with Preston's team being well renowned and watched by large crowds.

Whether it will get towards anything like that, who knows.

A bit like rugby union for me- won't watch club level, but come international competitions, then will take in a few games.

[stevieb]

54 minutes ago, Roger_Dubuis said:

The Man Utd  womens team was only founded in 2018 but already has more followers on instagram than 7 of the Premier League men's teams including Leeds United

Well done Manchester United in winning the 2021 "our women's team has more Instagram followers than Leeds" award. 

Massive achievement. Well deserved. 

[tomski]

3 minutes ago, stevieb said:

Well done Manchester United in winning the 2021 "our women's team has more Instagram followers than Leeds" award. 

Massive achievement. Well deserved. 

Whilst you jest they probably will be presented with some award

[Not in Crawley]

3 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

One in the media the other day (can't remember who) asking for exactly that.

Now, I know Crawley likes to look down his nose at folk, but he misses the point.

Folk aren't "bothered" about women's football coverage etc, they will either watch it or not- however its not a patch on the men's game, and that's despite clear improvements. For me, as I've said before, the goalkeeping is the biggest issue. Miles apart.

Historical evidence shows that at one time women's football was, for a short time, popular, with Preston's team being well renowned and watched by large crowds.

Whether it will get towards anything like that, who knows.

A bit like rugby union for me- won't watch club level, but come international competitions, then will take in a few games.

Now that's a bit rude, I only look down on a select few.

And your post makes no sense in regards to mine. As I have said - thrice now - watch it or switch off. I just like middle aged men getting all frothy about it. Makes me smile.

[Not in Crawley]

1 hour ago, Mr Grey said:

Its shit and always will be.

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