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Britain's Racist Election


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Not seen it down here (obviously) but no doubt the hand wringers would like a "Britains Sexist Election" covering the time before the Sufragettes did their thing?

 

Wonder if there would be enough material for 'fattist', 'heightist' or homophobic sequels? Money spinners for sure.

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On Channel 4 now.

 

No doubt there'll be a few on here watching and saying, "Ahhh, the good old days."

 

I watched it, and remember the election.

Overall Labour, under J. H. Wilson, won for the first time in 13 years, so there was a definite swing to Labour.

However, this swing was lower in the West Midlands generally, and in Smethwick markedly the other way.

Griffiths himself was not supported by Conservative Central Office, who were (to say the least) unhappy with the smear campaign he ran. He lost at the snap election called in 1966. What I didn't realise was that in the seventies he stood in Portsmouth North, and held it from 1979 to 1997.

Government exacted revenge in 1966 by merging Smethwick, Oldbury and Rowley Regis, together with most of Tipton and a bit of Dudley, in a new borough named Warley.

Then in the 1974 Local Government Disorganisation, Warley itself was merged with West Bromwich to form Sandwell.

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Slogan that became popular around Smethwick during this period, often daubed on walls and the like:

 

"If you want a n*gger for a neighbour, vote Labour!"

 

Other highlights...

 

Some old indian bloke detailing how he and a mate, as young men, got severely twatted (mobhanded) for no reason other than being 'wogs', dragged down the canal, chucked in and then they (the mob) opened fire on them with air pistols.

 

The formation of the British KKK, with some fucking idiot tall twat (a bit heightist there, but who cares about heightism?) saying they'd burn crosses, freely using 'n*gger' and 'nig-nog' etc.

 

Some young West Indian girl telling how they'd burned a cross in the 2ft square 'garden' in front of her terraced house window.

 

Vox pops showing loads of folk being openly bigoted...

 

It really wasn't sommat you want to be critical of (the critical tone of the programme), Bolty, if you haven't seen it.

 

Can't you subscribe to some proxy server service over there? It's a few quid a month (pay ones) and then you could watch BBC I-Player, Channel 4od, ITVPlayer (if you want to plumb the depths) etc. British programmes available to watch directly after they've aired 'live' over here, then.

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I watched it, and remember the election.

Overall Labour, under J. H. Wilson, won for the first time in 13 years, so there was a definite swing to Labour.

However, this swing was lower in the West Midlands generally, and in Smethwick markedly the other way.

Griffiths himself was not supported by Conservative Central Office, who were (to say the least) unhappy with the smear campaign he ran. He lost at the snap election called in 1966. What I didn't realise was that in the seventies he stood in Portsmouth North, and held it from 1979 to 1997.

Government exacted revenge in 1966 by merging Smethwick, Oldbury and Rowley Regis, together with most of Tipton and a bit of Dudley, in a new borough named Warley.

Then in the 1974 Local Government Disorganisation, Warley itself was merged with West Bromwich to form Sandwell.

 

I think you might be clevererer than Stephen Fry.

 

Actually

 

You've probably already worked it out, so would love to know. I reckon you are.

 

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Not seen it down here (obviously) but no doubt the hand wringers would like a "Britains Sexist Election" covering the time before the Sufragettes did their thing?

 

Wonder if there would be enough material for 'fattist', 'heightist' or homophobic sequels? Money spinners for sure.

When did you leave the UK? 1978?

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Watched all but the last bit on 4od last night. It was more balanced than I expected reading the posts on here beforehand. It would seem that there was an agenda from both the labs and cons to ensure that immigrants were dumped in areas far away from "their" leafy suburbs. 

 

ps 4od is shit cause of the constant 3 mins of adverts you cannot fast forward through.

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You'd prefer it to be the same as last time?

 

The prospect of the Scottish Nationalist nutjobs or the UKIP Mail readers having a deciding factor in this election does not thrill me with joy no.

 

The whole thing is depressing me right now. I watched Question Time a few weeks ago and watched that Grant Shapps explain why in limited circumstances MPs should be able to have second jobs, but that he never would because he was always devoted to his constituents. Didn't entirely agree with him but he did make some good and thought out points. Trouble was it turns out he was lying through his teeth. As he has done prior to that and in subsequent interviews. So I begin to question why would I vote for a party with a Chairman who is lying consistently for his own self interest. Plus I do not like the way Cameron has behaved over live debates.

 

Then Labour are a completely ineffectual and limp opposition who haven't got the balls to say what they really want to and stand up for what they believe in and therefore aren't offering a viable alternative. In fact they're not even offering a non-viable alternative. They are just there.

 

The Lib Dems are already exposed as turncoats the minute the chance to jump into bed with somebody presents itself.

 

Plus we have people predicting that the minority nutter parties might actually have a say in the outcome which could be described as a shake up, but in reality isn't, it is just letting fringe nutters make decisions about important issues. Do I want the Greens having a say on defence or the economy? Hell no. Do I want a single issue party like UKIP with a load of half baked thrown together ideas with no evidential grounding having a say on anything? No. Does anyone (other than the Scottish yes voters) want the SNP having power over a country they're trying to break apart from? I can't imagine anything more depressing.

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I don't know. I think anything which makes the two major parties re evaluate themselves can't be a bad thing. It's been a closed shop for far too long. UKIP are going to force the Tories to the right and the SNP might just force Labour to the left (further toward where I'd be comfortable with them being).

 

It might not be an election full of electable personalities - but it will be interesting.

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I don't know. I think anything which makes the two major parties re evaluate themselves can't be a bad thing. It's been a closed shop for far too long. UKIP are going to force the Tories to the right and the SNP might just force Labour to the left (further toward where I'd be comfortable with them being).

 

It might not be an election full of electable personalities - but it will be interesting.

More or less were i am at. Simply don't buy into the scaremongering that we saw in the scotch debate or the crap being thrown at UKIP who are simply listening to the concerns of many of the public, the same concerns that labour simply cannot bring themselves to acknowledge for a number of self interesting and dogmatic reasons (Browns Bigots) and the tories don't want because immigration provides cheap labour.

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More or less were i am at. Simply don't buy into the scaremongering that we saw in the scotch debate or the crap being thrown at UKIP who are simply listening to the concerns of many of the public, the same concerns that labour simply cannot bring themselves to acknowledge for a number of self interesting and dogmatic reasons (Browns Bigots) and the tories don't want because immigration provides cheap labour.

Anyone could easily tap into public concerns. But it doesn't mean they have proper ideas backed up by evidence and turned into thought through policies.

 

Would you be happy with a government consisting of a Labour and SNP coalition?

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Anyone could easily tap into public concerns. But it doesn't mean they have proper ideas backed up by evidence and turned into thought through policies.

 

Would you be happy with a government consisting of a Labour and SNP coalition?

 

Not personally, but I would respect the fact that there was a consensus that these were the two parties that had the most number of seats and therefore they represented the views of the people, regardless of what someone else thought. 

 

People forget that democracy was born on the principle that elected officials went forth to ensure the views of their electors were represented and to endeavour  to make the changes they wanted happen.

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 How much is the deposit nowadays? I'm thinking of standing for the "drinking heavily" party.

Got to be worth a few votes - assuming the pisscans can be arsed turning out.

Just checked and it's £500, which you get back if you get 5% of the vote. 

5% of people must be pisscans surely?

I could raffle a few bottles for people who voted for me.

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Anyone could easily tap into public concerns. But it doesn't mean they have proper ideas backed up by evidence and turned into thought through policies.

 

Would you be happy with a government consisting of a Labour and SNP coalition?

 

It woulde not be a coalition. It would be a Labour minorrity government supported by SNP.

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