Moderators Carlos Posted May 31, 2016 Moderators Share Posted May 31, 2016 That used to be my attitute, but playing kids that weren't good enough for the bottom of the Championship isn't going to win us League One. And that is all I really care about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eavesy Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 That used to be my attitute, but playing kids that weren't good enough for the bottom of the Championship isn't going to win us League One. And that is all I really care about. You're right in the main But you could argue that that short term vision is what has got is in this mess. Leaving us with absolutely no one with re-sale value. Yet we play a lad 20 games and he's attracting rumoured interest from the likes of arsenal and Spurs. Â We've relied on loans for a good few years now and it's not done us much good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Carlos Posted May 31, 2016 Moderators Share Posted May 31, 2016 ALF, Joe Mason, Lukas Jutkiewicz, just three forwards that have had a massive impact for us whilst on loan. They wouldn't have kept us up last season like but loans have helped us massively. There's people will claim Sturridge's goals kept us up. Â Rob Holding is a special player, I've said since his debut that he'll go all the way. The rest of them are shit. Don't kid yourself that with 20 games we can create another Holding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter only1swanny Posted May 31, 2016 Site Supporter Share Posted May 31, 2016 You're right in the main But you could argue that that short term vision is what has got is in this mess. Leaving us with absolutely no one with re-sale value. Yet we play a lad 20 games and he's attracting rumoured interest from the likes of arsenal and Spurs. Â We've relied on loans for a good few years now and it's not done us much good. Â Â our long term plan went when we were relegated... it became a short term all or nothing plan.. Â Tom Eaves.. how long did we have him and how few games? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
passmosster Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 If you want to cash in quick, you have a short term plan. Â You really can't expect kids to turn around a struggling side well bottom of their League. Â I was referring to loans of Premiership youngsters. Â Can't remember any really good since Sturridge and Wilshere played about 3 or 4 good games for us. Â And Amos fooled us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eavesy Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 (edited) our long term plan went when we were relegated... it became a short term all or nothing plan.. Â Tom Eaves.. how long did we have him and how few games? Yeah. Exactly. We buy someone and sign a shit load of strikers on loan and he never gets a sniff. I can barely remember him being on the bench. He might have been shite but he never got a chance to prove his shitness in first team Edited May 31, 2016 by Eavesy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Carlos Posted May 31, 2016 Moderators Share Posted May 31, 2016 Tom Eaves proved he was shit at Bury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naytch Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Where is Conor Wilkinson these days? He was shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyther_Matt Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Where is Conor Wilkinson these days? He was shitStill our player but must have been loaned to half a dozen clubs this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Â 6 goals in 49 career games at 7 clubs. Â Not quite setting the world alight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules_darby Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 6 goals in 49 career games at 7 clubs. Â Not quite setting the world alight Some muppet I know had a bet on him being leading scorer in league 1 last year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 ....because he is (or was) a football agent, so presumably this is his field of expertise, and the area where he is most likely to get some form of kickback....allegedly  Are we going down the route of having a manager/coach who just manages the players he's given, like they tend to do in Europe? I hope so. We are so far behind in signing players. I like the idea of someone coming in and having to work with what they have got. Hopefully the Harry Redknapp generation dies a death Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Carlos Posted May 31, 2016 Moderators Share Posted May 31, 2016 Some muppet I know had a bet on him being leading scorer in league 1 last year He played against the Colls and didn't stand out, as the most senior player in the team, he got bossed by a lad who struggled at Colls' level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowball Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 our long term plan went when we were relegated... it became a short term all or nothing plan.. Â Tom Eaves.. how long did we have him and how few games? I take it you never saw him in reserves? Typical Owen Coyle signing, scored a hat trick against our defence so he must be good. Remember seeing him first time in reserves and being really disappointed. Went again a few months later and was talking to an old guy who went every week and he said don't expect him to make it, always off side for one. Sorry but he was crap not convinced he is good enough for Football League but why the hell did we sign him? on one good game probably, that was our long term plan before we got relegated? Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagermoot Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 where is the Juke now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eavesy Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Raking it in at Burnley recovering from injury Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolton va va Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Owen Coyle should be hanging from the Macron floodlights for the damage he did to BWFC, but signing Eaves was the least of his crimes against us. Â The signing of young players in the hope that they develop is a gamble every time & all managers probably get it wrong more often than not. At the start of last season, Holding did not stand out, even in the reserves !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
passmosster Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Did see Eaves play moderately well for Bristol Rovers as a one up. Â Haven't we needed a decent one of them for quite a while? Â His problem has been an arthritic hip. Â Once talked to an old buffer watching the Reserves who said Francis Lee would never make it, so take what they say with a pinch of salt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Horwich Posted June 1, 2016 Moderators Share Posted June 1, 2016 Do most managers not sign good and shit players? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonk Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Yeah but allardici didn't so it can be done:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalcolmW Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Yeah but allardici didn't so it can be done:) Â Oh yes he did! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Is this Tom Eaves or Chris Eaves? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Is this Tom Eaves or Chris Eaves? Both Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 Ok, the eaves twins are both shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 My everlasting memory of Tom Eaves is him running around like a headless chicken putting powder puff challenges in during the later stages of that last match of the season against Blackpool whilst Kevin Davies sat in the stands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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