Lt. Aldo Raine Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Thinking about it Andranik is a Christian iirc. Could be wrong, but I have this distant memory. Would show that all isn't lost I suppose. You've got a good memory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 I think you mean ‘poor’. You’re being way too simplistic. It’s way more complicated than just Islam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, mickbrown said: I think you mean ‘poor’. You’re being way too simplistic. It’s way more complicated than just Islam. Just my opinion. The whole Current situation is much more complicated of course.  But I standby the reason they believe the west is a threat is Islam and it’s preaching and propaganda.  and before someone jumps on me I’m not tarring Muslims or the faith with any brush. I’ve no issue with those peacefully practicing any religion. Edited January 7, 2020 by Escobarp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, Escobarp said: Just my opinion. The whole Current situation is much more complicated of course.  But I standby the reason they believe the west is a threat is Islam and it’s preaching and propaganda. I don't think that can be denied. Never saw much flag burning until 1979. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, miamiwhite said: Yes I agree, but it fan5 who said we are a threat, not the Iranians. I'd better tell the Foreign Office to take Somalia, Yemen, etc off the travel advisory list then and replace it with the US 😊🇺🇸 He didn't appear to to me. His point was that they (presumably in this instance the Iranian regime and its supporters, however the same point can also be made for those who don't support it and those in neighbouring countries) view the West (more specifically, the US government) as a threat to the world. It was an argument about how people in different parts of the world can form different perspectives on the same events. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: He didn't appear to to me. His point was that they (presumably in this instance the Iranian regime and its supporters, however the same point can also be made for those who don't support it and those in neighbouring countries) view the West (more specifically, the US government) as a threat to the world. It was an argument about how people in different parts of the world can form different perspectives on the same events. Yes, though you know what he's like pal. When he says something, it's his way or the highway, a bit like Islam if you like 🔪🤺💣💣💣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elson Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 https://news.sky.com/story/iran-launches-revenge-rocket-attacks-at-us-troops-in-iraq-11903432 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmjhb Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 2 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Thinking about it Andranik is a Christian iirc. Could be wrong, but I have this distant memory. Would show that all isn't lost I suppose. Also of Armenian descent, given the surname Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deane koontz Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Looks like the fuckery has started 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widnes Two Hats Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 (edited) News is on, looks like I'm not going to bed for at least a few hours Edited January 8, 2020 by Widnes Two Hats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 this should make the night shift pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widnes Two Hats Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Fox is miles better than the other news stations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 (edited) Â Â Â Edited January 8, 2020 by royal white Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widnes Two Hats Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Looks like it was a show of face from Iran, no casualties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 I’m predicting a Small retaliation by America on a couple of Iranian bases then peace talks. Which will probably End up being wrong! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 (edited)  Unfortunate timing for a mechanical failure or a targeted attack? All 180 on board feared dead  conspiracy nuts will be having a field day today   Edited January 8, 2020 by royal white Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 let’s hope that this allows the Iranians to save a bit of face and Trump takes it on the chin without escalating further Wonder if they Iraqi’s will have a pop as well  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 2 hours ago, royal white said:  Unfortunate timing for a mechanical failure or a targeted attack? All 180 on board feared dead  conspiracy nuts will be having a field day today   Well the yanks have got history Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted January 8, 2020 Members Share Posted January 8, 2020 59 minutes ago, birch-chorley said: let’s hope that this allows the Iranians to save a bit of face and Trump takes it on the chin without escalating further Wonder if they Iraqi’s will have a pop as well  I fear it will escalate it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 10 minutes ago, Rudy’s Message said: I fear it will escalate it No casualties - seems like a calculated risk by the Iranians. And that tweet suggests they want to call it a draw. Over to you Donald. Don't be a bell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted January 8, 2020 Members Share Posted January 8, 2020 1 hour ago, kent_white said: No casualties - seems like a calculated risk by the Iranians. And that tweet suggests they want to call it a draw. Over to you Donald. Don't be a bell. Don’t be a bell. Good un. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Rudy’s Message said: I fear it will escalate it I think it’ll go the opposite way, of course they’ll continue to use their dirty proxy war methods but now they know no one is off limits it’ll bring them back to the table. That’s how this shit works, Trump will be up for Nobel peace prize in a year or 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, gonzo said: Â Nearly as good as that time someone cobbed his shoe at George W Bush Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 13 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: I think it’ll go the opposite way, of course they’ll continue to use their dirty proxy war methods but now they know no one is off limits it’ll bring them back to the table. That’s how this shit works, Trump will be up for Nobel peace prize in a year or 2. Worst possible outcome is that they accelerate their nuclear programme while all that is happening. They're about a year to eighteen months away from what I've read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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