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its SUPER TUESDAY today

Feels decidedly below average here.

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How did we end up losing John Oliver? Doing the rounds at the moment - but for those of you who haven't seen it.....

 

https://youtu.be/TGc2nN9OguQ

TV makers over here are obsessed with 'banter' fueled panel shows like 8 out of 10 cats, mock the week etc and John Oliver's style didn't fit that genre.

 

James Corden is remarkably less of a dick on his yank shows and stuff.

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JO used to be ON mock the week.

 

Don't get the fangurling over it. DESTROYS TRUMP ! Dude's knocking back Gotchas like a boss live. That probably took 6 months to write. They'll be doing one about his hair next .

 

Gonna be piss funny when he brings up Hillary's skeletons.

 

Dunno how he's doing it but "Rules For Radicals' is looking Dated AF.

 

He might be a trojan horse for Hillary but that he even hinted at Bill's dodgyness makes me think not.

 

lololol

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Dude's knocking back Gotchas like a boss live. 

 

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TV makers over here are obsessed with 'banter' fueled panel shows like 8 out of 10 cats, mock the week etc and John Oliver's style didn't fit that genre.

James Corden is remarkably less of a dick on his yank shows and stuff.

Some of Oliver's stuff is very good, the way he showed some of Trumo's lies was quite insightful.

However it is also a bit PC, like the last leg on channel 4, generally good but they don't look at the reason why people like Trump are coming to the fore. That to many people in politics are too afraid to reflect many moderate people's view for fear of being not PC. Hence they go to extreme idiots like Trump

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Some of Oliver's stuff is very good, the way he showed some of Trumo's lies was quite insightful.

However it is also a bit PC, like the last leg on channel 4, generally good but they don't look at the reason why people like Trump are coming to the fore. That to many people in politics are too afraid to reflect many moderate people's view for fear of being not PC. Hence they go to extreme idiots like Trump

Being politically correct is not being a dick to people. There's plenty of people who are determined to be offended on behalf of others that take political correctness past its basic meaning and take it too far. I think Last Leg has done some good in removing over pc-ness towards disability by showing that it's ok to laugh at things around disabled folk.

 

Saying there's a problem within the Pakistani Muslim male population with them praying on white girls shouldn't be a controversial statement. Those too far to the left have made it so people feel afraid to say that. Leaving those to the more extreme right to scream about the asians being peados.

 

Debunking soundbites is hard to do in a quick snappy entertaining manner is hard to do and oliver does it better than most.

But he now focuses on American politics as the yanks pay his wages and we're left with Hugh Dennis impersonating Prince Philip.

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Agree with first paragraph, though I think they'd be pilloried if a disabled person wasn't on the show laughing too.

I'm quite happy with Hugh Dennis and his impersonations. Plenty of talented comedians on the program and its funny. Though sometimes PC does come through on this too.

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Another round of wins for Trump.

 

Looking like its going to be Trump v Clinton for the job in November.

 

Do they have one big fuck of election at the end of all this then?

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Currently they are going state to state to select who will represent the Republican & Democratic parties for the nationwide general election in November

 

However you can also have independent's running in November although it's a rare occurrence

 

Bloomberg the ex mayor of New York and 5th richest man in the world is a Republican who dislikes Trunp so much (and the #2 Cruz for that matter) that he has hinted that he may run as a third option independently to split the republican vote and stop Trump getting in the White House

 

Bloomberg is worth something stupid like $45b - he makes trump look like Dean Holdsworth

Edited by birch-chorley

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I was reading an interesting article about American politics the other day. The main gist was that people are becoming increasingly polarised in their outlook. The middle ground is getting stretched as traditional republican voters move further to the right and traditional democrats voters move more to the left. Furthermore these divides were happening on state lines with each side increasingly mistrustful of the other. It doesn't make for a cohesive system.

 

I can see the same thing happening here albeit in a different way.

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It's the internet.

 

With a couple of clicks, you can be viewing far left or far right views and opinions with ease and without any one knowing.

 

In the past, you'd have to go out to buy Socialist Worker or NF magazine and hope not to be recognised.

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I was reading an interesting article about American politics the other day. The main gist was that people are becoming increasingly polarised in their outlook. The middle ground is getting stretched as traditional republican voters move further to the right and traditional democrats voters move more to the left. Furthermore these divides were happening on state lines with each side increasingly mistrustful of the other. It doesn't make for a cohesive system.

 

I can see the same thing happening here albeit in a different way.

 

It's exacerbated by the difference between seats in Congress and Senate.

Congress seats are by population in a similar way to MP seats here, but the Senate is 2 per state, no matter what size. So Wyoming has the same number of Senators as California, New York or Texas.

The significance of this is that ii is quite feasible for the Senate to have a Republican majority and Congress a Democrat one. While that can happen more easily at mid-term elections, it can happen here and now.

 

Also the current process is simply gathering delegates to the Party Convention in the summer which will finalise the ticket for President and VP. The fact that Christie has given up and aligned himself with Trump suggests he hopes to pick up the VP nomination.

 

So if you think the current process is crackers, wait till the Conventions. Pretty soon all the non-Trump contenders need to pledge their delegates to one candidate or Trump will definitely be unstoppable. Since Christie has gone to Trump already he may be unstoppable anyway.

 

It a bit like John Redwood leading the Conservatives, or Jeremy Corbyn Labour. Bonkers.

Edited by MalcolmW

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It's the internet.

 

With a couple of clicks, you can be viewing far left or far right views and opinions with ease and without any one knowing.

 

In the past, you'd have to go out to buy Socialist Worker or NF magazine and hope not to be recognised.

indeed and the not rights in both camps help whip those on their side of the argument in to more of a fervour .

 

these people who'd usually be ignored as the nobber in the pub talking bollocks now have access to other local nutjobs to then post on website comment sections and attract more folk with screws loose to their cause. once these nonsensical views appear often enough they start being taken as fact and used to bring in the slightly more level headed 

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I was reading an interesting article about American politics the other day. The main gist was that people are becoming increasingly polarised in their outlook. The middle ground is getting stretched as traditional republican voters move further to the right and traditional democrats voters move more to the left. Furthermore these divides were happening on state lines with each side increasingly mistrustful of the other. It doesn't make for a cohesive system.

 

I can see the same thing happening here albeit in a different way.

 

Labour elected Corbyn quite a long time before the Republicans picked Trump. It's the same anti-establishment phenomenon at work. This is a good point to make to anyone who thinks Americans are uniquely stupid. Personally, I would vote for Trump over either Clinton or Sanders, though I'd vote for almost any other Democrat or Republican over Trump. But you only get the choice you get and often you vote to keep someone out rather than get someone in. No-one should underestimate how many Americans would vote for Pol Pot before they voted for someone called Clinton, and nor do I blame them.

 

The following letter appeared in the Financial Times recently and outlines the thing nicely:

 

 

Sir,

 

My wife and I are affluent Americans with postgraduate degrees. We are socially liberal and fiscally mildly conservative. We are not the sans-culottes you see as the prototypical Trump voter. We are well aware of his vulgarity and nous deficiency yet we contemplate voting for him. Why?

 

Electing the standard-bearer of the Democratic Party seems purposeless. The neanderthal Republicans barely respected the legitimacy of Bill Clinton’s or Barack Obama’s election, let alone that of Hillary who would arrive tainted with scandal and the email lapses hanging over her head. We would get four years of gridlock and “hearings”. The Republican tribunes, Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio, are backward, foolish and inexperienced. John Kasich, a moderate with extensive governmental experience and a willingness to compromise, is an also-ran. That leaves The Donald, really a moderate in wolf’s garb, who would owe nothing to either party and might strike deals, for instance on tax reform.

Yes, we could be like the good citizens who voted for a “tameable” Hitler in 1933 to get things back on track. But the alternatives look worse.

 

Jon and Elsa Sands

 

Indianapolis, IN, US

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What's their beef with Bill Clinton?

 

Thought he was pretty popular?

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The impeachment, lies and financial scandal filth. And that he's a rapist. And the execution of Ricky Ray Rector and the bombing of a pharmaceutical factory in Sudan to distract from the cigar he shoved up Lewinsky. Awful man. Hillary lied for him time and time again and put him forever into her debt. That is not a good situation for a new President to be in. Sadly this all means VOTE TRUMP.

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Well, if she'd been a proper wife and paid attention instead of having ideas above her station playing politics.......

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 Sadly this all means VOTE TRUMP.

 

That's a grim state of affairs

 

As things stand, who would be favourite? - Hillary or Trump?

 

I have a horrible vision of Trump and Boris discussing policy in a few years, as two of the most powerful men on the planet

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That's a grim state of affairs

 

As things stand, who would be favourite? - Hillary or Trump?

 

I have a horrible vision of Trump and Boris discussing policy in a few years, as two of the most powerful men on the planet

Odds are in favour of Hillary - but only just.

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Do people really think Alex/Boris is numb?

 

Absolutely not, I think Boris is far from numb. I actually like him, and love the way he plays up to the "bumbling buffoon" image that he's created for himself. If he became PM (which I understand is feasible) I wonder what the other world leaders would make of him.

 

Anyway, we can't mention Boris without another look at this

 

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I was reading an interesting article about American politics the other day. The main gist was that people are becoming increasingly polarised in their outlook. The middle ground is getting stretched as traditional republican voters move further to the right and traditional democrats voters move more to the left. Furthermore these divides were happening on state lines with each side increasingly mistrustful of the other. It doesn't make for a cohesive system.

 

I can see the same thing happening here albeit in a different way.

As has been said its happening here as well as across Europe

 

People are getting disenfranchised and are moving further and further towards the extremes of politics

 

It's got a lot of similarities with what happened after the Wall Street crash in the 30's, granted its not so pronounced (yet)

 

lets hope it doesn't escalate to WWIII

Edited by birch-chorley

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Another round of wins for Trump.

 

Looking like its going to be Trump v Clinton for the job in November.

 

Do they have one big fuck of election at the end of all this then?

 

Just confirms what I've always thought.

 

Americans are idiots

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