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7 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

You are like a climate change denier. Every econimist across the world apart from the 5% of Brexit supporters thinks we will suffer.

Just to say, it isn't all about the economy but as soon as you put grass root support to risk of their jobs you will lose.

Speak to the German economics experts who are fearing the worst for their country when we leave.

They know how important we are to them.....

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2 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

Yes of course.  Politicians decide everything in the end.

You have a simple view of democracy it seems but our democracy is not laid out in law as such.

Democracy is ever such a simple concept. The people are the masters, the politicians and the civil servants are the ..... well, servants. Anything other than this arrangement is not democracy. And if politicians do things the people don't like - out they go.

Unless of course you're in the EU when unelected and unaccoubtable officials make key decisions and attempts can be made to ignore the results of referendums.

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1 minute ago, Winchester White said:

Who said all those nasty things? George Osbourne trying to save his political arse. Just because one dick over played his hand doesn't mean the rest of the economist's in Europe are wrong.

 

George Osborne advised by a Treasury that has persisted with the same forecasts ever since. Busted flush. 

Britain doesn't need the EU, Europe as a whole doesn't need the EU. The EU has reached its apogee. Like all empires in the history of this world of ours it has over-extended and over-centralised (and wants to centralise yet more). It will wither and it will die and we are better off out of the way before it implodes. Penny is dropping with people all over the continent.

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4 minutes ago, miamiwhite said:

Speak to the German economics experts who are fearing the worst for their country when we leave.

They know how important we are to them.....

You have just confirmed what I have said? Leaving the EU will hit Germany's car manufacturers. They are worried about that yet the impact has much more impact on us than them. Yet we are supposed to believe they are also wrong in their economic assessments?

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6 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

You have just confirmed what I have said? Leaving the EU will hit Germany's car manufacturers. They are worried about that yet the impact has much more impact on us than them. Yet we are supposed to believe they are also wrong in their economic assessments?

No mate, you implicitly said “we will suffer”

 

That’s us here in Britain, unless you’re a Kloset Kraut :D

 

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49 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

You are like a climate change denier. Every econimist across the world apart from the 5% of Brexit supporters thinks we will suffer.

Just to say, it isn't all about the economy but as soon as you put grass root support to risk of their jobs you will lose.

Plenty, if not all brexit voters accepted there might be a bit of an economic hit initially after leaving. Long term though we believe it will be better. Moreover, provided certain changes occur as a result of leaving, an economic drop may well be offset.

 

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I see the Alt-Shite's poster boy Shapiro made a tit out of himself on the bbc yesterday. Facts not feelings.

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On 04/05/2019 at 20:25, paulhanley said:

Unless of course you're in the EU when unelected and unaccoubtable officials make key decisions and attempts can be made to ignore the results of referendums.

Take it you're not voting on the 23rd then?

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2 hours ago, deane koontz said:

I see the Alt-Shite's poster boy Shapiro made a tit out of himself on the bbc yesterday. Facts not feelings.

He got made to look like a right tit by well known BBC leftist Andrew O'Neill :)

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28 minutes ago, kent_white said:

He got made to look like a right tit by well known BBC leftist Andrew O'Neill :)

Is that Andrew Neil's Irish cousin? 

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Just now, Cheese said:

Is that Andrew Neil's Irish cousin? 

Fuck knows why I wrote that? Hungover! :)

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Min wage at £10/hour for all.

 

Not buying votes with other people's money, no not at all

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4 hours ago, boltondiver said:

Min wage at £10/hour for all.

 

Not buying votes with other people's money, no not at all

 

So small businesses will only employ half of the school leavers to balance the books. Just watch how the reds ramp up the 'lowering the voting age to 16' rhetoric in the coming months.

Transparent as always.

We should all be more worried about Corbygeddon. Wealth creators leaving the UK in the event of that utter clown being elected is something to be truly worried about.

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16 hours ago, boltondiver said:

Min wage at £10/hour for all.

 

Not buying votes with other people's money, no not at all

Isn't it usual, in a lot of careers, to start at the bottom of a scale and work your way up, over a few years?

Whilst this might seem 'nice' in some sort of utopian society, in reality it's I'll conceived.

Yet another daft policy idea.

Edited by Tonge moor green jacket

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41 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Isn't it usual, in a lot of careers, to start at the bottom of a scale and work your way up, over a few years?

Whilst this might seem 'nice' in some sort of utopian society, in reality it's I'll conceived.

Yet another daft policy idea.

Agreed, what happens to those on the next level up who are being paid £10 ph do they get a rise too? And every other pay level thereafter? This is on the hoof policy making just like the student loan promise he couldn't keep

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12 hours ago, bolty58 said:

 

So small businesses will only employ half of the school leavers to balance the books. Just watch how the reds ramp up the 'lowering the voting age to 16' rhetoric in the coming months.

Transparent as always.

We should all be more worried about Corbygeddon. Wealth creators leaving the UK in the event of that utter clown being elected is something to be truly worried about.

They’ve already started it mate.

Iroinc though, as they said the IS margarine legs Begum bint was only a child and had no idea what she was getting into due to her young age.

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2 minutes ago, Salford Trotter said:

Agreed, what happens to those on the next level up who are being paid £10 ph do they get a rise too? And every other pay level thereafter? This is on the hoof policy making just like the student loan promise he couldn't keep

Very true Pete.

Our economy would collapse with Corbyn and his Brewster’s millionaire lot in charge

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

despite of Brexit :D

 

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14 minutes ago, miamiwhite said:

Very true Pete.

Our economy would collapse with Corbyn and his Brewster’s millionaire lot in charge

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

despite of Brexit :D

 

😀

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Corbygeddon?

What is that then? Destruction by trouser presses?

And you take the piss out of people saying Tommeh?

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Possibly a prediction that plenty have already made

but

I can see Farage doing extremely well in these elections. No matter what you think of him, his popularity is growing and the BBCs attempts to keep wheeling him into the spotlight expecting him to look foolish are failing (maybe on purpose...)

The rise of the hard right is currently inevitable.

The anonymity of the polling booth is going to cause a bit of an upset.

If I’m wrong, great. But the sense is that hein and his ilk have huge momentum.

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I think he'll do well, but so what, these EU elections are a waste of time for us, as we'll probably have left before they take the seats. And by his own admission MEPs have absolutely no say in anything at all

 

The next GE is where he needs to do something really

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13 minutes ago, Sweep said:

I think he'll do well, but so what, these EU elections are a waste of time for us, as we'll probably have left before they take the seats. And by his own admission MEPs have absolutely no say in anything at all

 

The next GE is where he needs to do something really

At the moment Nigel is a ‘one trick pony’ but he has already recruited a very broad selection of potential MEP’s, from the Left and from the Right, the common ground being the obvious dereliction of our current shower of MP’s to carry out ‘The Democratic mandate of the people’

This position attracts Leavers and ‘Democratic’ Remainers to the cause, yes, the EU elections are meaningless but it creates massive political momentum that will carry forward into a GE, Farage has already said he will field 650 candidates in any forthcoming GE, it’s a tall order but a high proportion of these potential MP’s will be full of enthusiasm and new ideas, British politics needs a rocket up its arse and The Brexit Party could be a massive catalyst to break the 2 party system 

If the result of this upheaval is the replacement of stagnant career politicians by people from all walks of life with new ideas to solve the obvious problems it can only be good

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12 hours ago, Moon boy said:

At the moment Nigel is a ‘one trick pony’ but he has already recruited a very broad selection of potential MEP’s, from the Left and from the Right, the common ground being the obvious dereliction of our current shower of MP’s to carry out ‘The Democratic mandate of the people’

This position attracts Leavers and ‘Democratic’ Remainers to the cause, yes, the EU elections are meaningless but it creates massive political momentum that will carry forward into a GE, Farage has already said he will field 650 candidates in any forthcoming GE, it’s a tall order but a high proportion of these potential MP’s will be full of enthusiasm and new ideas, British politics needs a rocket up its arse and The Brexit Party could be a massive catalyst to break the 2 party system 

If the result of this upheaval is the replacement of stagnant career politicians by people from all walks of life with new ideas to solve the obvious problems it can only be good

He won't do anything in a general election in any meaningful way. 

Even if he surpassed all expectations and won 20 seats...so what. Its a single issue party. 

There is scope potentially for a proper right wing protest party and a new centre party to really make headway. But Brexit party isn't it in the longer term. 

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I'm past making any predictions about the way people are going to vote. If the referendum proved one thing it's that there's a huge amount of people prepared to put the future of the country at risk on a single issue. Not sure why we should assume they wouldn't do the same in a general election.

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8 hours ago, bwfcfan5 said:

He won't do anything in a general election in any meaningful way. 

Even if he surpassed all expectations and won 20 seats...so what. Its a single issue party. 

There is scope potentially for a proper right wing protest party and a new centre party to really make headway. But Brexit party isn't it in the longer term. 

I just can't see the left of centre voters supporting a Brexit Party that will, according to Farage,  forge an alliance with Brexit Tory Government, this will be a protest vote at best.  

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