Salford Trotter Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 He has some balls to be that defiant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted June 29, 2016 Members Share Posted June 29, 2016 He has some balls to be that defiant No, not balls - he is delusional. He still strongly believes in the possibility of a socialist utopia even though it has failed everywhere it has been tried. Human aspiration will always fuck up all attempts at 'absolute equality' (whatever that means). Thankfully, the world and his wife have moved on from these fanciful ideals. He and his ilk just need to catch up which I doubt they ever will. I am massively hopeful that he digs his heels in even further and the clueless 3 quid youngsters who have no life experience and no fucking idea, re elect him. The only word I can think of to describe the turmoil that would ensue between the PLP and the apparatchiks would be 'delicious'. Unelectable for as long as possible please. Better dead than red. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted June 29, 2016 Author Site Supporter Share Posted June 29, 2016 No, not balls - he is delusional. He still strongly believes in the possibility of a socialist utopia even though it has failed everywhere it has been tried. Human aspiration will always fuck up all attempts at 'absolute equality' (whatever that means). Thankfully, the world and his wife have moved on from these fanciful ideals. He and his ilk just need to catch up which I doubt they ever will. I am massively hopeful that he digs his heels in even further and the clueless 3 quid youngsters who have no life experience and no fucking idea, re elect him. The only word I can think of to describe the turmoil that would ensue between the PLP and the apparatchiks would be 'delicious'. Unelectable for as long as possible please. Better dead than red. I can see a situation where all those who've resigned set up their own 'new labour' party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 They could call it New Labour. Things can only get better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter only1swanny Posted June 29, 2016 Site Supporter Share Posted June 29, 2016 Seen the dirt flying already with regards to Crabb.. Used to be an intern for a charity that stated there would be a homosexuality cure.. Seen facebook pics painting him as the devil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted June 30, 2016 Members Share Posted June 30, 2016 Don't think Crabb has any chance. Conservatives are, well, conservative by nature. Other than the fact she was a 'Remainer' I think May would walk it. Has all the right credentials including good relationships with most countries and a stateswomanlike demeanour. I suspect Liam Fox may be the one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Who shall I vote for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Carlos Posted June 30, 2016 Moderators Share Posted June 30, 2016 Gove Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Gove : : No chance surely.......however, surely that will split Boris Johnson's vote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted June 30, 2016 Author Site Supporter Share Posted June 30, 2016 No chance surely.......however, surely that will split Boris Johnson's vote He really has knifed Boris. Could well be a deliberate act to stop him and not really interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Carlos Posted June 30, 2016 Moderators Share Posted June 30, 2016 (edited) Thatchesa May for me. Edited June 30, 2016 by Carlos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Gove just isn't PM material. Who is, though? Maggie!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgoefc Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 (edited) I can see a Boris Gove, Donald and Brexit triumvirate on the morning of November 9th. What odds on that 9 months ago? Edited June 30, 2016 by bgoefc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalcolmW Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 IF Angela Eagle topples Corbyn she would make mincemeat of Boris at PMQs. Theresa May has a real chance to take this. I'd agree Crabb is simply leaving a marker for next time around. Remember that outsiders do have a good track record in Tory leadership elections. Thatcher was the absolute outsider to replace Heath. Heseltine was her obvious successor, but got blocked leaving Major (who was at the dentists when loyalties were being tested) to take the day. And when IDS was brought down as unelectable Cameron came from nowhere to win from a very poor field. I think Dr Fox may have too many indiscretions in his past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySanchez Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 I can see a Boris, Donald and Brexit triumvirate on the morning of November 9th. What odds on that 9 months ago? Boris not interested http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-36570120 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 (edited) Boris declares out Very clever IMO, think he knew he would get stitched up, better to get behind May who is now a shoe in for me and maybe get a big position in her cabinet Boris will be thinking next time round As far as Eagle for labour, she is highly respected within the party but I think she is too softly spoken and doesn't look right to win a general election Edited June 30, 2016 by birch-chorley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Boris not standing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter superjohnmcginlay Posted June 30, 2016 Site Supporter Share Posted June 30, 2016 Is Boris standing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Cannot be May can it? How can she go and negotiate a Brexit while she voted to stay in Europe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leigh white Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Never seen as much back stabbing than these last couple of days in politics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Cannot be May can it? How can she go and negotiate a Brexit while she voted to stay in Europe. 80% of MP's thought we would be better off with a remain vote If you only gave the big jobs to leavers then it isnt representative May was as good as on the fence though so it's fair enough They will have someone heading up BREXIT who will come from the OUT side I doubt it will be Boris, he knows it's a thankless task and will get as far away from it as possible ready for the next leadership battle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Cannot be May can it? How can she go and negotiate a Brexit while she voted to stay in Europe. Because it's their job to do what we bloody well tell them to do. About time they needed reminding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Et tu, Michael? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blondi Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 May will get the gig, Leadson has a reasonable chance too, can't see it being Gove. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Boris had to declare himself out of the running after his ridiculous column in the paper on Monday where he said that we needed to remain trading with the "single block" and he believed that freedom of movement should still happen He shit himself when he "won" as he knew he'd really lost, and simply doesn't have the ability to negotiate a break from the EU anything like the one he ran his campaign on. The blokes a dick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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