Farrelli Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 Richmond By election result. Lib Dems have overturned a 23000 majority to oust Zac Goldsmith. As this campaign was fought predominatly about brexit does this indicate public opinion has changed since the referendum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted December 2, 2016 Moderators Share Posted December 2, 2016 Richmond By election result. Lib Dems have overturned a 23000 majority to oust Zac Goldsmith. As this campaign was fought predominatly about brexit does this indicate public opinion has changed since the referendum? i think the runway might have had a small influence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrelli Posted December 2, 2016 Author Share Posted December 2, 2016 Both ZG and the Lib Dems were against the runway so moot point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted December 2, 2016 Moderators Share Posted December 2, 2016 i dont think it is and im a remainer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 Maybe the toffs of Richmond just got pissed off with an even bigger toff playing at politics of a bit of a laugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalcolmW Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 Richmond By election result. Lib Dems have overturned a 23000 majority to oust Zac Goldsmith. As this campaign was fought predominatly about brexit does this indicate public opinion has changed since the referendum? No. The constituency was 70% Remain, so for the only Remain candidate to gain almost 50% of the vote was no shock at all. Goldsmith first won in 2010, by nearly 5k, and for the previous generation this had been a Liberal area. ZG, of course, was standing as an independent without opposition from Conservatives or UKIP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Take Hunt Off Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 Not at all the bourgeois were mainly remainers excluding retired policemen & Colonel Mustard Bermondsey would be very different . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalcolmW Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 Not at all the bourgeois were mainly remainers excluding retired policemen & Colonel Mustard Bermondsey would be very different . Not really. It was 72.3% Remain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Take Hunt Off Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 (edited) Ok bad example ....lets say Bolton West! Edited December 2, 2016 by Take Hunt Off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted December 3, 2016 Members Share Posted December 3, 2016 You will see the opposite result to Richmond in Sleaford & North Hykeham this coming week. North/South divide? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no balls Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 You will see the opposite result to Richmond in Sleaford & North Hykeham this coming week. North/South divide? Malcolm will know better than me but Essex was out. Chelmsford was a pretty high % Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 Malcolm will know better than me but Essex was out. Chelmsford was a pretty high % Chelmsford was 52.8% out vote, which was about the lowest percentage in Essex, which massively voted to leave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no balls Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 (edited) Chelmsford was 52.8% out vote, which was about the lowest percentage in Essex, which massively voted to leave I'll go and rummage for stats but the county was as high as places like Lancashire as I recall. Then there's Boston & much of Lincs (is that south?!) . I'd hardly call Richmond representative of the south was my point. Edited December 3, 2016 by no balls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no balls Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 62% on average http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36617396 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 I'll go and rummage for stats but the county was as high as places like Lancashire as I recall. I know, which is why I said Essex massively voted out. I think pretty much every town/district in the county voted to leave. The "closest" was Chelmsford, and even they were nearly 53% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrelli Posted December 9, 2016 Author Share Posted December 9, 2016 This Sleaford by-election result,? Easy Tory hold, UKIP distant second, Lib Dems third. However, UKIP, Labour and Tories % vote all dropped compared to the last election, not exactly a Brexit endorsement by the electorate. Labour are in danger of being cast into oblivion coming in fourth. Just where are they going with Corbyn in charge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 This Sleaford by-election result,? Easy Tory hold, UKIP distant second, Lib Dems third. However, UKIP, Labour and Tories % vote all dropped compared to the last election, not exactly a Brexit endorsement by the electorate. Labour are in danger of being cast into oblivion coming in fourth. Just where are they going with Corbyn in charge? Protest party Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Carlos Posted December 9, 2016 Moderators Share Posted December 9, 2016 Least they got their £500 back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalcolmW Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 This Sleaford by-election result,? Easy Tory hold, UKIP distant second, Lib Dems third. However, UKIP, Labour and Tories % vote all dropped compared to the last election, not exactly a Brexit endorsement by the electorate. Labour are in danger of being cast into oblivion coming in fourth. Just where are they going with Corbyn in charge? To be fair, fourth place was still the top half of the field of 10, and consistent with second out of five in the general election. And they did beat the Lincolnshire Independent by almost 500 votes (as opposed to over 7,000 at the GE), and hammered the Monster Raving Loony and the Bus-Pass Elvis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted December 9, 2016 Members Share Posted December 9, 2016 not exactly a Brexit endorsement by the electorate. Which does not matter one fucking jot. The referendum result is the referendum result and anything other than "Brexit" cannot be countenanced. Anything other than Brexit and you can burn down the Houses of Parliament and all other pillars of our democracy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgoefc Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 Not sure if this is a SEB but fuck me anyone who thinks the Lib Dems are serious should watch this....... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MeL3cSRz6w Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrelli Posted December 10, 2016 Author Share Posted December 10, 2016 Which does not matter one fucking jot. I never said it did. I'm interested in the voting patterns in two very different constituencies. The remainers have turned out and labour's vote has disappeared. The next election can only be a Tory win but who will be the main opposition? In my opinion the Lib Dems and the SNP will share the job as Labour are incapable of fulfilling the role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgoefc Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 I never said it did. I'm interested in the voting patterns in two very different constituencies. The remainers have turned out and labour's vote has disappeared. The next election can only be a Tory win but who will be the main opposition? In my opinion the Lib Dems and the SNP will share the job as Labour are incapable of fulfilling the role. In the last election Ukip polled more votes than those two added together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrelli Posted December 10, 2016 Author Share Posted December 10, 2016 In the last election Ukip polled more votes than those two added together. That was then. Indications from the two by elections are more pertinent to the current climate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayjayoghani Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 I never said it did. I'm interested in the voting patterns in two very different constituencies. The remainers have turned out and labour's vote has disappeared. The next election can only be a Tory win but who will be the main opposition? In my opinion the Lib Dems and the SNP will share the job as Labour are incapable of fulfilling the role. Appealing to neither the 52% or the 48% https://twitter.com/johnharris1969/status/807234375997947904?s=09 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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