madthatter Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 You stand on top of that skyscraper and welcome the aliens matey. You overlook one major point which has made us (true Brits) what we are. Genetics. Constant invasion and cross breeding has made us what we are. You may come back and go all Blue Mink on me and suggest a coffee coloured future and you may be correct. I just hope the coffee tinge is infused by Indians and Caribbeans and not a natural result of the Caliphate. Be reet, they only like shagging our white slags, breeding with non-muslims is a big no no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 Bolty should live in china. They all look the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youri McAnespie Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 What about the M0NG? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 One of the differences between you and me is that I lived through more innocent times where England was the finest place on earth to live or grow up. We had none of these threats to worry about for a start. I freely admit that I long for the return of such days for all of you. What has it been now - two decades of it in the UK? For those who remember Black September, nearly half a century of Islamic terrorism. Enoch Powell was absolutely correct and the streets ran red with blood yet again only last week. We are fucked because we let so many in. Just one of the reasons I don't live there any more. It seems that the younger generations are happy enough with their lot and quick to appease so why should I care? For precisely the same reason I don't like to see BWFC relegated. I want us to be back where we belong - leading the world with our free, happy and carefree society based on values wholly developed in England and admired and adopted by much of the free world. These innocent times you lived through, how long was it after the blitz and ration books? We're having the same conversations we are on a few different threads You old timers are harping back to life in the 60's being the pinnacle of exsistance No thanks, I'd rather chop my own arm off than go back to the 60's and bring my family up then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 These innocent times you lived through, how long was it after the blitz and ration books? We're having the same conversations we are on a few different threads You old timers are harping back to life in the 60's being the pinnacle of exsistance No thanks, I'd rather chop my own arm off than go back to the 60's and bring my family up then Might just me but people and communities were much friendlier then you can keep most of the new modern life folk have today it's all about celebrity, reality TV, money and glib bullshit I'd vote for 60s/70s all day long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 I think I agree with Birch, living standards have never been so high. Let's not pretend everything was perfect 40 or 50 years ago.....unless your idea of perfection is just having fewer brown people around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 I trust my Dad who is 73 when he says that anyone who bleats on about the good old days is an idiot. It was a harder life, the opportunities were far less available, no central heating, smog, people dying of preventable disease. The idea that is was a crime free nirvana of cream teas and good old British values is, well s myth perpetuated by those who don't like the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted March 26, 2017 Site Supporter Share Posted March 26, 2017 A lot more material things and more entertainment/leisure stuff, but not sure society and neighbourliness is what is was. Good and bad aspects to both. Mass footy games on the grass with dads coming down after work all gone now. Shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Carlos Posted March 26, 2017 Moderators Share Posted March 26, 2017 Remember the good old days when every street had a resident paedo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 (edited) I've just come back from a game of football with my three (middle one is Bolton obsessed!) on the local rec. I'll admit we do work longer hours and not switch off is more of a problem nowadays. Although, that's not just a modern problem. Edited March 26, 2017 by Not in Crawley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 (edited) I trust my Dad who is 73 when he says that anyone who bleats on about the good old days is an idiot. It was a harder life, the opportunities were far less available, no central heating, smog, people dying of preventable disease. The idea that is was a crime free nirvana of cream teas and good old British values is, well s myth perpetuated by those who don't like the future.[/quote} More varied job opportunities back then without a doubt I'll give you central heating the rest of your points virtually same as today. Edited March 26, 2017 by Mounts Kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 (edited) You really would argue a blue sky black, wouldn't you? Well, maybe not black. Varied job opportunities- for whom? Less educational opportunities for the majority as well. I one post you argue about an ageing population and in this you say nothing has changed since the 50s. I'm not sure you're even sure of your arguments anymore. Edited March 26, 2017 by Not in Crawley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 (edited) You really would argue a blue sky black, wouldn't you? Well, maybe not black. Varied job opportunities- for whom? Less educational opportunities for the majority as well. I one post you argue about an ageing population and in this you say nothing has changed since the 50s. I'm not sure you're even sure of your arguments anymore. Not sure which post you refer to but if you could point it out I'm sure I could clarify. That's if I ever said it and you're not just making it up. Edited March 26, 2017 by Mounts Kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 I'll have a look when I get back - off out again to visit a Victorian folly as a Mother's Day treat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 I'll have a look when I get back - off out again to visit a Victorian folly as a Mother's Day treat. Enjoy your treat. Happy Mother's Day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 (edited) More varied job opportunities?? It was either the pit or the mill ffs. Edited March 26, 2017 by gonzo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 More varied job opportunities?? It was either the pit or the mill ffs. I'm not sure about more varied - but I believe you could pretty much walk out of a job and find one elsewhere the same afternoon back in the day. I think some folk of a certain age need to remember that they have had it easier then perhaps any other generation in the history of the UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 (edited) Aye, probably to do with the fact they grew up not long after a war that killed off 50m Did the same thing for the jobs market that the plague did hundreds of years a go I wouldn't have wanted to have been about then either Edited March 26, 2017 by birch-chorley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 And folk worked for about 3p an hour and no fucker had mortgages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgoefc Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 Th 60's and 70's were no doubt the best times for the ordinary working class man to improve his lot. People were getting mortgages to move out of terraced houses into new suburban housing estates with garden and yes central heating (even as far back as the mid 60's). Jobs were plentiful and varied and people actually talked to neighbours and socialised in the pubs of which there were 6 times more. Many people started their own businesses including my dad who made so good money. People also knew how to cook meals and the chippy was a weekly treat. I agree with Bolty in that the horse has bolted. We let too many people into the UK who had little or no interest in integrating into our society. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 Th 60's and 70's were no doubt the best times for the ordinary working class man to improve his lot. People were getting mortgages to move out of terraced houses into new suburban housing estates with garden and yes central heating (even as far back as the mid 60's). Jobs were plentiful and varied and people actually talked to neighbours and socialised in the pubs of which there were 6 times more. Many people started their own businesses including my dad who made so good money. People also knew how to cook meals and the chippy was a weekly treat. I agree with Bolty in that the horse has bolted. We let too many people into the UK who had little or no interest in integrating into our society. It's the same anywhere in the world though, that's the point. Integration is massively unique. I didn't clock much integration sat supping a pint of carling in Churchills British bar in costa Adeje last week. Folk migrate to places and live their own lives. It's all part of living in a multicultural society. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 Th 60's and 70's were no doubt the best times for the ordinary working class man to improve his lot. People were getting mortgages to move out of terraced houses into new suburban housing estates with garden and yes central heating (even as far back as the mid 60's). Jobs were plentiful and varied and people actually talked to neighbours and socialised in the pubs of which there were 6 times more. Many people started their own businesses including my dad who made so good money. People also knew how to cook meals and the chippy was a weekly treat. I agree with Bolty in that the horse has bolted. We let too many people into the UK who had little or no interest in integrating into our society. Are you blaming immigration for the pubs shutting now? They're are more white British people in the U.K. now then there was then so surely they would still be thriving if it's what British people want? Sadly for you British people want more from life than working all week, a chippy on a Friday then the weekend in the pub! The leisure industry has boomed since the 60's with habits changing, look at how many more gym's, wine bars, cafe's, restaurants they're are now compared to then. Our interests are much more varied and that's what's changed, thank god for it as well as it sounds very one dimensional and boring back then In terms of cooking, I work in FMCG so know a thing or two about consumer food trends. The amount of products being sold now are vastly greater from back then. The produce and food available is cheaper relative to income and much more varied than it was. It must all be going in the Bin though as you believe folk can't cook anymore. About a million hours a year of cookery programs would probably disagree with you as would supermarkets stocking everything from Thai Basil to Almond milk (I bet they sold well in the 60's) Our food culture was in the doldrums for decades after the war, we were light years behind our neighbors on the continent. Thankfully it's come on leaps and bounds with a huge numbers of quality restaurants from fine dining at the top to quirky eateries littered everywhere We have come a long way and I love it, I'd like to take this opportunity to thank many of the immigrants that have come into the UK, integrated well and brought our culture kicking and screaming into the 21st century Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no balls Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 Gonzo, read this. You're safe, fella http://trib.al/plz8IZ9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salford Trotter Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 (edited) On reflection i would much rather have my children grow up these days than when i grew up in the mid 60s/70s. For a start my daughter is a type 1 diabetic and has been from the age of 3 (24 now) and the management of her condition is a million miles better now even in her lifetime never mind 50 years ago. She would be facing into many more serious problems back then. The wealth of opportunties whether it be for example a choice of career; travelling the world or where you live are far more open these days than ever they were. Admittedly the closer community feel maybe not so the same but that's what happens in generational change. Why would anyone prefer sliderules and encyclopedias rather than calculators and t'internet? Edited March 26, 2017 by Salford Trotter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckhurstwhite Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 More varied job opportunities?? It was either the pit or the mill ffs. Come on you know that's not true. In a small town in Lancs we had a pit, major loco works, sugar refinery, machinery manufacturer, print works plus smaller industries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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