birch-chorley Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 I thought we led as well but apparently that's all bollocks as we've been getting told what to do for years now with no say ourselves Anyway the shackles are coming off now and everyone is expecting the rules to be relaxed so it won't be long until we fuck off such measures as 20 mph zones in residential areas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 A ridiculous post. We were civilising the world and introducing sensible laws way before the existence of the EU. Are you trying to say that we have lost the ability to do so after being nannied by some cunt in Brussels for a few years? We lead, others follow. It will be good to get back to the natural order of things. https://theconversation.com/the-ongoing-effect-of-empire-in-britain-67429 Aye definitely. Of course that is only true if you believe 20th century British propaganda rather than an examination of any actual facts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Carlos Posted April 21, 2017 Moderators Share Posted April 21, 2017 Civilising the world, using laws based in times when we were living in mud huts and covering our faces in shit. Brilliant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 I'm a fairly cautious driver. People who speed in residential zones are no better than drink drivers for me. About a month ago I was driving up Cloister Street in Halliwell - which for those who don't know it is a 20 mph street that runs between two larger 30 mph streets - Halliwell Rd and Elgin St. As I was coming up to the T-junction at Elgin St - a kid came running across the road straight in front of me. I managed to hit my brakes and they ran on - completely oblivious to the fact I was even there. Presumably they were just legging it down Elgin St and not stopping at any of the side roads. Now as I've said - I'm a fairly cautious driver anyway - but had Cloister St been a 30 or had I ignored the speed limit like a lot of cretins do when they come down that street - then I would have hit that kid and God knows how that would have ended up. So I'm all for stricter speed limits - and I'm also all for harsher penalties on those who break them. Drive like a cock - and get your licence revoked in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 I thought we led as well but apparently that's all bollocks as we've been getting told what to do for years now with no say ourselves Anyway the shackles are coming off now and everyone is expecting the rules to be relaxed so it won't be long until we fuck off such measures as 20 mph zones in residential areas Aye can't wait till we can all start smoking in pubs and serving undercooked food covered in E. Coli again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madthatter Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 20 in residential areas is a no brainer; as alluded to above kids will be kids but parents should be ensuring their kids not to run out or play on roads. Seems the norm in some areas I drive through. Having them elsewhere seems like another cash cow to me. I know countless folk in Bristol that have been done doing over 20 on roads they had no idea were 20 limit. What does get on me tats though are folk who drive at 20 or less when it's clearly a 30 zone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Carlos Posted April 21, 2017 Moderators Share Posted April 21, 2017 Looking forward to going for a paddle at Blackpool, ankle deep in untreated shit and jam rags. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madthatter Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 https://theconversation.com/the-ongoing-effect-of-empire-in-britain-67429 Aye definitely. Of course that is only true if you believe 20th century British propaganda rather than an examination of any actual facts! I'm not having a pop here but that article suggests to me that like in a lot of instances 'blaming' Britain for a countries decline during or post colonisation is a bit too simplistic. The native Indian Raj rulers were more than happy to sell out to the British for their pieces of silver - problem was it didn't get shared around very fairly. Same as back here really . . . India wasn't so much took by force as through 'clever' trade agreements with the elite of the day. Just as folk forget that most African slaves were sold to Europeans by Africans. I'm no fan of imperialism or slavery but feel it's too easy, and wrong, to solely blame Britain for many past transgressions. Simple greed is the arse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Aye can't wait till we can all start smoking in pubs and serving undercooked food covered in E. Coli again. Just eat at one of the illustrious takeaways on Deane rd or bradhsawgate and you can satisfy your craving for the latter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Looking forward to going for a paddle at Blackpool, ankle deep in untreated shit and jam rags. Remember that you have to walk over the fast food squelched pavements before you can get to the turd laden sea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 living in mud huts and covering our faces in shit. Don't be bringing Halliwell into it!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrelli Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 A ridiculous post. We were civilising the world and introducing sensible laws way before the existence of the EU. Are you trying to say that we have lost the ability to do so after being nannied by some cunt in Brussels for a few years? We lead, others follow. It will be good to get back to the natural order of things. In terms of car safety innovations Volvo and Mercedes Benz have been the main pioneers. Seat belts, head restraints, padded dashboards and driver airbags to name a few firsts. So the natural order is a figment of your imagination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_spencer Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 In terms of car safety innovations Volvo and Mercedes Benz have been the main pioneers. Seat belts, head restraints, padded dashboards and driver airbags to name a few firsts. So the natural order is a figment of your imagination. In terms of automobile engineering most of the British output has been shit for years.We can do the luxury end if the market (although now foreign owned) in jag, rolls Bentley etc. But when it comes to the standard day to day cars we were shit at it. I'd say the same rule applies across most things, we produce some fantastic luxury goods, but struggle when it comes to making stuff for Johnny Normal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Carlos Posted April 22, 2017 Moderators Share Posted April 22, 2017 Who remembers the last generation of British cars? The Morris Marina, Austin Allegro and other classics... The Mini Metro killed the brand off totally, British = shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 British = shit. My Alba cassette player is still working splendidly As mentioned above though, we do design and manufacture "high end, high quality" as well as anybody. It's the other stuff we're a bit shit at. We're a nation of people who want stuff as cheap as possible these days, and sadly that's what will prevent large scale manufacturing returning to these shores Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_spencer Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 We're a nation of people who want stuff as cheap as possible these days, and sadly that's what will prevent large scale manufacturing returning to these shores If a load of vietnamese kids chained to the radiator can pump hundreds of em out for pennies a time, mass manufacturing the world over is struggling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whites man Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Who remembers the last generation of British cars? The Morris Marina, Austin Allegro and other classics... The Mini Metro killed the brand off totally, British = shit. We are exporting more cars than ever and total production is not far short of the all time record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Carlos Posted April 23, 2017 Moderators Share Posted April 23, 2017 Nissans? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whites man Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Yes mate, British built cars rather than British cars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Just buying a new car for the Mrs Tempted in by one of these PCP jobs after hearing a few friends picking up some real bargains vs list price on new motors Looked into it and the new car market has gone bonkers on the back of these PCP's, 80% of all private sales are sold this way apparently which has driven new car sales through the roof Anyway I got a deal done on a car list price £23k for £17k so it stacked up and the payments seemed reasonable but the guy was sheepish about letting me take the full finance breakdown home. He'd sold it me as 3.5% interest, turns out that's flat rate based on retail price not APR of the sale price Difference is £3k in interest down the PCP route vs £1,200 with a 3.3% APR bank loan over 5 years - I've told him I would sort myself out and got a bank loan and he's dropped me like a hot potatoe. It's clear they make the margin on the finance and are giving away huge deals on the prices to get people in I've got the best of both worlds I suppose but I bet plenty have been burnt without knowing on these PCP's, it will be the next PPI scandal you watch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted April 24, 2017 Site Supporter Share Posted April 24, 2017 Wouldn't have another of these type of deals. In fact wouldn't buy a new one again. Cracking value in something around a year old, when a lot of depreciation has happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Carlos Posted April 24, 2017 Moderators Share Posted April 24, 2017 When my car died in July and I had to get another asap, Halifax would lend to me at my mortgage rate. VW matched that and knocked 10% off, Inchcape defo make their money on the finance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted April 24, 2017 Site Supporter Share Posted April 24, 2017 Very true. Better deals to be had if taking finance. May be worth doing it then getting a different loan and pay it off; providing there's no punitive early repayment penalties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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