Terror Attacks

[Rudy]

10 hours ago, miamiwhite said:

No, just a career criminal and gangster.

Pretty sure they were kneeling for the tipping point of racial injustice triggered by that event.

[gonzo]

56 minutes ago, Rudy said:

Pretty sure they were kneeling for the tipping point of racial injustice triggered by that event.

Wonder when the tipping point will be for girls being groomed by Muslim gangs? 

When one of em is murdered? ....oh yeah that’s already happened.

When there’s an institutional cover up? ...oh yeah that’s happened.

Weve all gone soft.

[Rudy]

8 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Wonder when the tipping point will be for girls being groomed by Muslim gangs? 

When one of em is murdered? ....oh yeah that’s already happened.

When there’s an institutional cover up? ...oh yeah that’s happened.

Weve all gone soft.

Should have been a long time ago, I saw a woman say they can’t be called Muslim grooming gangs, because it’s offensive to Muslims 

You know what else is offensive, fuckin Muslims grooming girls

People are more outraged at the headline than the content

[Guest Nordkurve]

9 hours ago, miamiwhite said:

Who mentioned footballers ? Was a reference in general. 

When do you think footballers, politicians, the public particularly the left and socialists etc will take the knee for victims of terror attacks, grooming gangs etc ?

Surely, there has to be a tipping point re these atrocities too ?  

And yes, these attacks are racist, they're aimed at anybody who isn't a "believer" for a better choice of word.

It's not racist. There are plenty of White Muslims. Racism is based on ethnicity not religious belief.

[Youri McAnespie]

38 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Wonder when the tipping point will be for girls being groomed by Muslim gangs? 

When one of em is murdered? ....oh yeah that’s already happened.

When there’s an institutional cover up? ...oh yeah that’s happened.

Weve all gone soft.

There was some nonce in the BEN this week.

He'd been extorting another prisoner with threats to his family, the victim was arranging bank transfers of money to the nonce's mother's account.

He was doing twenty years.

https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/19334803.blackmailer-sex-attacker-bolton-jailed-longer/

When they get caught they get long sentences, I'd see them locked up for life but under current guidelines...

What more can be done, despite previous failings, lynch mobs? Assume collective blame and organise some form of censure for friends, family or the 'community'?

People don't realise how much graft the police and ancillary support, judiciary, community and care workers, teachers, medical staff etc. put in to prevent any more gross failings occurring.

It's easier to follow the narrative of 'lefties' continuing to blind eye shit, to apply 'sensitivity' to shit...

It's utter bollocks.

Edited May 29, 2021 by Youri McAnespie

[gonzo]

1 hour ago, Youri McAnespie said:

There was some nonce in the BEN this week.

He'd been extorting another prisoner with threats to his family, the victim was arranging bank transfers of money to the nonce's mother's account.

He was doing twenty years.

https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/19334803.blackmailer-sex-attacker-bolton-jailed-longer/

When they get caught they get long sentences, I'd see them locked up for life but under current guidelines...

What more can be done, despite previous failings, lynch mobs? Assume collective blame and organise some form of censure for friends, family or the 'community'?

People don't realise how much graft the police and ancillary support, judiciary, community and care workers, teachers, medical staff etc. put in to prevent any more gross failings occurring.

It's easier to follow the narrative of 'lefties' continuing to blind eye shit, to apply 'sensitivity' to shit...

It's utter bollocks.

You know about all the cover ups right? Maybe that’d be where to start.

And calling it out for what it is. 

My point is, we had marches nationwide as a reaction to racial injustice in this country sparked by some no mark getting murdered in America. 

We have more of a problem with Muslim Grooming gangs and institutional cover ups imo. 

Maybe if we kicked up more of a fuss about it all, like the BLM movement, we might make some headway for change. 

 

 

[Youri McAnespie]

33 minutes ago, gonzo said:

You know about all the cover ups right? Maybe that’d be where to start.

And calling it out for what it is. 

My point is, we had marches nationwide as a reaction to racial injustice in this country sparked by some no mark getting murdered in America. 

We have more of a problem with Muslim Grooming gangs and institutional cover ups imo. 

Maybe if we kicked up more of a fuss about it all, like the BLM movement, we might make some headway for change. 

 

 

I obviously don't know about any active cover-ups as if I did I'd be making efforts to expose them.

I also think, whatever the cause, shambling down the street causing mither achieves absolutely fuck all.

And if we're conflating issues, to take the example of BLM, there's a section of society that instead subscribe to 'all lives matter' - a good number of this group don't apply the same thinking to child sex abuse. All abuse victims matter in my opinion.

Reading about the gang-grooming cases, well I stopped doing it - they'd enrage me more than anything. The historical cover-ups and pandering was disgusting, those responsible should have served time.

However you infer it's still going on (systematic failings) - I'd disagree, there'll still be fuck-ups certainly but not on the wholesale scale seen previously.

I'd also say this isn't a left/right issue. I know committed commie types who'd quite happily personally castrate groomers. I know anti-rayguns who get convenient amnesia when they fancy an 8-ball of some benzo-laced shite (they often are involved in both or piss in the same pot - dealers/groomers).

Look at that Twitter link in the social media thread (Broken Britain) and tell me honestly they haven't an agenda? Are they 'promoting awareness' are they 'helping'?

Edited May 29, 2021 by Youri McAnespie

[MickyD]

12 hours ago, miamiwhite said:

 

And yes, these attacks are racist, they're aimed at anybody who isn't a "believer" for a better choice of word.

They're a bit more indiscriminate than that. The terrorist really doesn't give a fuck if other muslims are involved

[royal white]

4 hours ago, Nordkurve said:

It's not racist. There are plenty of White Muslims. Racism is based on ethnicity not religious belief.

Not quite correct 

[Zico]

4 hours ago, Youri McAnespie said:

 

And if we're conflating issues, to take the example of BLM, there's a section of society that instead subscribe to 'all lives matter' - a good number of this group don't apply the same thinking to child sex abuse. All abuse victims matter in my opinion.

 

Very true

[miamiwhite]

9 hours ago, Rudy said:

Pretty sure they were kneeling for the tipping point of racial injustice triggered by that event.

See my point re the tipping point....

[miamiwhite]

8 hours ago, Nordkurve said:

It's not racist. There are plenty of White Muslims. Racism is based on ethnicity not religious belief.

How would you describe it then when Christians are targeted purely for their religion like they are currently in Pakistan, Iraq and Nigeria ?

[Rudy]

15 minutes ago, miamiwhite said:

See my point re the tipping point....

500 years of oppression not long enough to reach a tipping point?

[miamiwhite]

4 minutes ago, Rudy said:

500 years of oppression not long enough to reach a tipping point?

Course it is, but how many years of grooming etc is enough until people take a stand ?

There's been many movements opposing racism over the years, it's not the latest fad, how many have opposed the grooming gangs etc ?

[miamiwhite]

A million people opposed the war in Iraq and marched in strength.

How many of them marched opposing terror attacks on our very streets ?

Too busy lighting candles and reciting some shite songs.

[Burnden Pies]

There's a disproportionate number of people in powerful and influential positions who obviously hate this country, or at best are ambivalent about it. To these and their ilk this country and its people can't do anything right, and every other fckr can do no wrong. The most animated they get when others do wrong is absolute silence. I'm sick of it tbh, and I'm sure it's one of the reasons why so many traditional WC Labour voters are utterly disillusioned with what that party has become. I know I am

[miamiwhite]

7 minutes ago, Burnden Pies said:

There's a disproportionate number of people in powerful and influential positions who obviously hate this country, or at best are ambivalent about it. To these and their ilk this country and its people can't do anything right, and every other fckr can do no wrong. The most animated they get when others do wrong is absolute silence. I'm sick of it tbh, and I'm sure it's one of the reasons why so many traditional WC Labour voters are utterly disillusioned with what that party has become. I know I am

Absolutely fella, well said.

Theres a video circulating of Palestinian supporters last week hunting for Jews in London screaming they want their blood etc....they were surrounded by police, why weren't these racist twats arrested for a hate crime ? 

[Burnden Pies]

3 minutes ago, miamiwhite said:

Absolutely fella, well said.

Theres a video circulating of Palestinian supporters last week hunting for Jews in London screaming they want their blood etc....they were surrounded by police, why weren't these racist twats arrested for a hate crime ? 

No further action against that WPC who raised her arm in salute and shouted long live Palestine - wtf is all that about?!

[Rudy]

55 minutes ago, miamiwhite said:

Course it is, but how many years of grooming etc is enough until people take a stand ?

There's been many movements opposing racism over the years, it's not the latest fad, how many have opposed the grooming gangs etc ?

It’s always going to be a bigger movement when a big part of the population is black. 
Just because a stand has been against one issue doesn’t mean there is any less focus on another. 

[miamiwhite]

3 minutes ago, Rudy said:

It’s always going to be a bigger movement when a big part of the population is black. 
Just because a stand has been against one issue doesn’t mean there is any less focus on another. 

Well, in Britain, the biggest part of the population is white, and white girls are targeted specifically by Muslim grooming gangs.

Where is the left and Labour Party focus on this ?

Fucking hiding....that's where.

[miamiwhite]

Rochdale covered up, Rotherham covered up, Manchester covered up.

But for the likes of ladies like Maggie Oliver, Sarah Champion and Sammy Woodhouse, none of these horrific and huge amount of grooming crimes would have come out.

All buried for years by Labour councils,  the absolute spineless appeasing cunts.

[mickbrown]

1 hour ago, Burnden Pies said:

There's a disproportionate number of people in powerful and influential positions who obviously hate this country, or at best are ambivalent about it. To these and their ilk this country and its people can't do anything right, and every other fckr can do no wrong. The most animated they get when others do wrong is absolute silence. I'm sick of it tbh, and I'm sure it's one of the reasons why so many traditional WC Labour voters are utterly disillusioned with what that party has become. I know I am

Labour haven't been in power or been influential for the last 10 years. Just saying

[Burnden Pies]

6 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

Labour haven't been in power or been influential for the last 10 years. Just saying

Yes I know. Over time the traditional WC voice / presence in the Labour Party has become less and less. Add to that local candidates who reflect their community and understand it being turned down in preference for HQ 'approved' candidates  being parachuted in instead, plus the party moving to gesture politics above all else. I get that this hasn't happened overnight, it's been a drift over years

[miamiwhite]

17 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

Labour haven't been in power or been influential for the last 10 years. Just saying

You mean the same Labour Party who sacked Sarah Champion for speaking the truth about grooming gangs ? Just saying

 

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/left-failing-to-confront-truth-of-sex-crimes-says-sacked-labour-frontbencher-sarah-champion-mp-for-rotherham-dismissed-by-jeremy-corbyn-after-writing-for-the-sun-gbbm8p837

[Guest Nordkurve]

13 hours ago, miamiwhite said:

How would you describe it then when Christians are targeted purely for their religion like they are currently in Pakistan, Iraq and Nigeria ?

I would describe it as a Terrorist attack. Racism is to do with having a problem with someone's Ethnicity or Culture, not Religious beliefs.