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7 hours ago, Casino said:

Is that wanker green going to put himself up for a vote of confidence

Have the courage of your convictions, resign and stand as an independent, you self serving twat

And the rest of the shithouse who voted with the 48

They are even worse

In your opinion!

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8 hours ago, Casino said:

Is that wanker green going to put himself up for a vote of confidence

Have the courage of your convictions, resign and stand as an independent, you self serving twat

And the rest of the shithouse who voted with the 48

They are even worse

IF you believe the outcomes of the Lord Ashcroft poll from the other day then those voting against her are representing the mainstream view of Tory voters....

As much as I agree about the ERG - the Tory voter appears to on average side with their view and not May's. If that rather extensive poll is to be believed. 

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13 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said:

IF you believe the outcomes of the Lord Ashcroft poll from the other day then those voting against her are representing the mainstream view of Tory voters....

As much as I agree about the ERG - the Tory voter appears to on average side with their view and not May's. If that rather extensive poll is to be believed. 

But the mainstream, the 52%, is just being ignored by those who proffer to know best.

this anti-democracy movement will not be good for the country. In my view

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13 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

But the mainstream, the 52%, is just being ignored by those who proffer to know best.

this anti-democracy movement will not be good for the country. In my view

May clinging on but going before the next election  is not good. For anyone.

Nicky Morgan was saying there will likely be a split in the Tory party as the differences have been irreconcilable. At least that would give voters options rather than the Tory party being currently far too diverse in its views to accurately represent their electorate.

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54 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said:

May clinging on but going before the next election  is not good. For anyone.

Nicky Morgan was saying there will likely be a split in the Tory party as the differences have been irreconcilable. At least that would give voters options rather than the Tory party being currently far too diverse in its views to accurately represent their electorate.

The diversity is greater within the HOC rather than the party as a whole. Which is the problem.

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1 hour ago, boltondiver said:

The diversity is greater within the HOC rather than the party as a whole. Which is the problem.

Yes - the parliamentary party is far too split and too wide apart now to really hang together. And I agree it does not represent the views of its voters (even though I disagree with them). That is a recipe for disaster in itself.

 

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24 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

The centre bit is happy with TM deal. No way will they go with lib Dems.

Looking at last year's results, if the Con vote is split 3:2, then they will lose dozens of seats to Labour.

So far I've looked at constituencies beginning A or B and the total of seats lost is 13.

 

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31 minutes ago, Casino said:

there were plenty tory activists on the radio yeterday

the overwhelming majority backed may

On the BBC? Because I do think they have become the May propaganda arm. Whereas listening to other stations, like LBC - I've rarely heard anyone support her.

As I say LA (a Tory supporter and decent pollster) doesn't seem to think the majority support her - in fact it is around 30% of Tory voters.

 

 

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32 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

The centre bit is happy with TM deal. No way will they go with lib Dems.

I'd question that. The centre part of the Tory party are loyal out of duty and to an extent not wanting to tear their party in pieces. The idea they are "happy" with May's deal though is easily debunked when the majority of them are on record as saying they aren't happy. 

The May loyalists in her cabinet are even reported to be possibly planning to block her bringing the deal back to parliament with the backstop still in it.

The reality is nobody in the party really "likes" the deal. 

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1 hour ago, MalcolmW said:

Looking at last year's results, if the Con vote is split 3:2, then they will lose dozens of seats to Labour.

So far I've looked at constituencies beginning A or B and the total of seats lost is 13.

 

Does that factor in the boundary changes?

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Just now, boltondiver said:

Does that factor in the boundary changes?

Obviously not because I would need to drop to ward level.

I have simply gone through the 2017 results splitting the Con vote 3:2.

The full damage is 7 losses to each of LD and SNP plus 119 to Labour. Obviously other factors would come in to play, but it's a stark reminder that splitting the party has dire consequences.

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2 hours ago, MalcolmW said:

Looking at last year's results, if the Con vote is split 3:2, then they will lose dozens of seats to Labour.

So far I've looked at constituencies beginning A or B and the total of seats lost is 13.

 

The whole of politics could blow up here. And with it become more representative. The Labour party could split too. The point is that the Conservative party is clearly not cohesive, or united with a set of shared values and this is now incredibly apparent. When the Chancellor is calling 100 odd MPs in his own party "extremists" you cannot go on like that.

Similarly the Labour party leadership is at serious odds with about 25 of its MPs. So that situation, whilst less severe, still could easily come to a head. 

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21 hours ago, miamiwhite said:

He’s a charlatan.

Simple as that.

 

And no, I do not live in London.....I prefer to live somewhere much safer,thank you very much :D

Most. If not all, of the knife crime is gang on gang stuff 

If you're an average person walking down the street you'll be fine 

Bit like getting scared about going round Moss Side in its 'heyday'. 

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