royal white Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 8 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Yoda is about to train Luke, so I'll continue this later... Brings back memories from Marine training Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 28 minutes ago, royal white said: Go on then what have I missed Well you'll only be allowed to stay for 90 days within a 180 day period for a start. You also won't have the right to work while you're there. So my son won't have the opportunity to work and live in Europe like I was able to do when I was growing up. Even if it was just for a couple of months. Whether you're arsed about that or not is another question entirely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 29 minutes ago, royal white said: Brings back memories from Marine training Yoda doesn't make his new recruits have a naked oil wrestling session or lie in a paddling pool full of piss as part of their initiation though! :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 6 minutes ago, kent_white said: Well you'll only be allowed to stay for 90 days within a 180 day period for a start. You also won't have the right to work while you're there. So my son won't have the opportunity to work and live in Europe like I was able to do when I was growing up. Even if it was just for a couple of months. Whether you're arsed about that or not is another question entirely. Thanks for answering questions I didn’t ask. So like what’s been said freedom of movement is there for a few quid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 5 minutes ago, royal white said: Thanks for answering questions I didn’t ask. So like what’s been said freedom of movement is there for a few quid. You're welcome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 7 minutes ago, royal white said: Thanks for answering questions I didn’t ask. So like what’s been said freedom of movement is there for a few quid. Isn't the point that we wanted to get rid of freedom of movement because brown people kept coming here and stealing our jobs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted December 15, 2018 Site Supporter Share Posted December 15, 2018 17 minutes ago, kent_white said: Well you'll only be allowed to stay for 90 days within a 180 day period for a start. You also won't have the right to work while you're there. So my son won't have the opportunity to work and live in Europe like I was able to do when I was growing up. Even if it was just for a couple of months. Whether you're arsed about that or not is another question entirely. Folk may not have the right to work, but they will have the right to apply to do so. Is it really such a disaster? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 Just now, Tonge moor green jacket said: Folk may not have the right to work, but they will have the right to apply to do so. Is it really such a disaster? I suppose it depends what kind of work you're after. If it's skilled then you might be alright. Still an extra pain in the arse when you've not got to worry about it at the moment. Might be different if you're younger and just want to work casually - like I did. I imagine you'll still be able to find people who'll take you on cash in hand - our kids will just get paid less as a consequence and have fewer rights. Can't see how it's a massive winner really? If all you're bothered about is a week in Tenerife then I doubt it's going to even register as much more than a mild inconvenience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalcolmW Posted December 15, 2018 Share Posted December 15, 2018 2 hours ago, fatolive said: Which earlier Irish leaders do you mean and what line do you think the would have taken? Any over the last 20 years, such as Reynolds, Ahern, Kenny would have taken into account the areas in which Ireland is dependent on the UK. If the UK suffers by, say 10%, Ireland will suffer by 20% or more. I think they might have required the right for an NI referendum now, and then every 20 years, on unification, in return for easing the current impasse. Still, the gay Indian did a 180 degree turn on abortion - but on this he is not inclined to move. Yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Winchester White Posted December 15, 2018 Site Supporter Share Posted December 15, 2018 Not sure why you felt the need to include his sexuality or distant race in your post to be honest Malc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter fatolive Posted December 15, 2018 Site Supporter Share Posted December 15, 2018 So you think that a Fianna Fáil leader of Ireland would not seek to assure that there wouldn’t be a border in Ireland ? And not take measure to seek that assurance ? The imposition of border would also do harm, what position do you think the leaders you mention would take, seeing as the claim for ownership of the 6 counties was given up as part of the GFA Im also not sure why you described him as you did and the relevance but makes no odds, his views on abortion are also irrelevant, such is the way Irish politics works, not like his views change so he can get the government change the constitution or anything and not sure what relevance that has, only the fact he can change his mind? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted December 16, 2018 Members Share Posted December 16, 2018 6 hours ago, Sweep said: Isn't the point that we wanted to get rid of freedom of movement because brown people kept coming here and stealing our jobs? Here we fucking go again. Back to the gutter. The last time I looked, there weren't many brown Bulgarians, Romanians etc. It's as tired as 'owd, thick, racist cunts'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 6 hours ago, bolty58 said: It's as tired as 'owd, thick, racist cunts'. I've never suggested they're thick at all, or cunts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 6 hours ago, bolty58 said: Here we fucking go again. Back to the gutter. The last time I looked, there weren't many brown Bulgarians, Romanians etc. It's as tired as 'owd, thick, racist cunts'. Spot on Bolty. Folk posting complete bollocks ad nauseum does not make it true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Spot on Bolty. Folk posting complete bollocks ad nauseum does not make it true. Well, stop posting it then! Edited December 16, 2018 by boltondiver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted December 16, 2018 Site Supporter Share Posted December 16, 2018 13 hours ago, royal white said: So like what’s been said freedom of movement is there for a few quid. No. Not in the slightest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted December 16, 2018 Moderators Share Posted December 16, 2018 Back to Ireland, cos its pretty clear the outers don't like this subject Let's say there is at some point, technology that means there is no need for a hard border Does that solve the issue regarding movement of individuals? I wouldn't have thought so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 Ireland can be fixed with technology very easily and quickly the leave side tell us.... The leave side object to the backstop being "indefinite" until the border issue is fixed... Therefore I assume they therefore think the issue can't be fixed with technology easily and quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted December 16, 2018 Moderators Share Posted December 16, 2018 No surrender, no surrender Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 12 minutes ago, Sweep said: Ireland can be fixed with technology very easily and quickly the leave side tell us.... The leave side object to the backstop being "indefinite" until the border issue is fixed... Therefore I assume they therefore think the issue can't be fixed with technology easily and quickly. Spot on a non issue, made to look insurmountable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L/H White Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 9 hours ago, bolty58 said: Here we fucking go again. Back to the gutter. The last time I looked, there weren't many brown Bulgarians, Romanians etc. It's as tired as 'owd, thick, racist cunts'. The man on the street did vote to leave because of that tho, they thought a wall would be up within a fortnight and all different coloured people would be sent back. The majority voted for that, they didn't have a clue about anything else that goes with brexit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted December 16, 2018 Site Supporter Share Posted December 16, 2018 50 minutes ago, boltondiver said: Spot on a non issue, made to look insurmountable You can't have it both ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 1 hour ago, boltondiver said: Spot on a non issue, made to look insurmountable It's the leave side making it appear insurmountable, by not agreeing to have the backstop as "indefinite" (indefinite... as in staying in place until a solution can be found) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Sweep said: It's the leave side making it appear insurmountable, by not agreeing to have the backstop as "indefinite" (indefinite... as in staying in place until a solution can be found) The EU brought it to the table Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted December 16, 2018 Share Posted December 16, 2018 The issue folk had with free movement as far as I can see was largely to do with them able to come here and claim benefits, with a bit of driving wages down in reality a very small % of EU migrants are here on benefits, most of them have come to work and they will pay tax and NI so should be more than welcome to public services. Certainly more so than a British expat living in Spain contributing no income taxes to the local economy With regards driving wages down the NMW is now something like £16k per annum for the most unproductive jobs going, hardly indicates wage suppression I’m quite certain that 90% of people who voted in referendum barely had a grasp of the finer details of the customs union. I certainly didn’t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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