miamiwhite Posted January 15, 2019 Author Share Posted January 15, 2019 Nice bit of news for jobs in the UK http://www.bestmag.co.uk/industry-news/jaguar-land-rover-build-uk-battery-plant-despite-job-cuts-gloom Cue the bleats about the same group cutting jobs globally. Moral, protect British jobs...simple Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted January 15, 2019 Author Share Posted January 15, 2019 Funniest quote of the night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, kent_white said: Corbyn to win the next election, pull us out with no deal, win back the alienated working classes and usher in a new era of socialist utopia. YHIHF And he’ll discover a way we will all live forever Edited January 15, 2019 by boltondiver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 1 hour ago, ZiggyStardust said: How so ? It was made quite clear, by both sides, that a leave vote meant the following: Exiting the customs union. Exiting the Single Market Exiting Free Movement. Exiting ECJ jurisdiction. The only thing that has changed, is the term 'hard brexit'. . Nonsense How many times was “Norway aren’t in the EU and they are doing allright’ trotted out in the build up to the referendum? Why if the plan was to fully leave would Norway even get a mention? Likewise Switzerland Go back to the original Brexit thread on here for context. The leave supporters were of the impression that it would all be sorted very quickly and we would be able to pick and choose the best bits of membership, which included free trade! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 So if we leave without a deal in March, what happens to the Irish border? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 19 minutes ago, gonzo said: So if we leave without a deal in March, what happens to the Irish border? Nothing until or if it is challenged under WTO rules easily googleable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 15 minutes ago, boltondiver said: Nothing until or if it is challenged under WTO rules easily googleable So we keep an open border to Ireland ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Just now, Ani said: So we keep an open border to Ireland ? Until challenged If ever........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted January 15, 2019 Moderators Share Posted January 15, 2019 18 minutes ago, boltondiver said: Until challenged If ever........ How is that getting our borders back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jol_BWFC Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 15 minutes ago, boltondiver said: Until challenged If ever........ So the EU are going to go to all these lengths to include the backstop as part of the deal (and refuse to budge on any renegotiation of this aspect of the deal), but then if we leave with no deal they will turn around and say "sod it, let's just leave it as it is and not challenge it; in fact, let's just do the same with every other border point the EU has with non-EU countries and have a free for all"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Jol_BWFC said: So the EU are going to go to all these lengths to include the backstop as part of the deal (and refuse to budge on any renegotiation of this aspect of the deal), but then if we leave with no deal they will turn around and say "sod it, let's just leave it as it is and not challenge it; in fact, let's just do the same with every other border point the EU has with non-EU countries and have a free for all"? I have stated a few times that this is a non-issue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, Casino said: How is that getting our borders back We wanted an end to freedom of movement, we can work towards managing borders through a technological solution, were not far away from achieving our goals now, hold our nerve and a WA remainers said wasn’t achievable is within our sights. Edited January 16, 2019 by Mounts Kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 (edited) Reading the down beat messages from European leaders this morning has made my day, reality stares them in the face their brinksmanship aided and abetted by TM and the civil service has come to nought. They are going to have to tweak the deal, we will soon see if it was their final offer. Edited January 16, 2019 by Mounts Kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 (edited) BBC et al wanking themselves silly about the biggest ever defeat for a Government. anyone can see that this is a defeat for Theresa May and her mental idea. Edited January 16, 2019 by boltondiver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 7 minutes ago, boltondiver said: BBC ETV al wanking themselves silly about the biggest ever defeat for a Government. anyone can see that this is a defeat for Theresa May and her mental idea. The EU also are to blame here, they thought they could rail road a deal through that wasn’t actually Brexit and trouser the cash. How wrong they were, they now need to wake up and smell the coffee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 9 hours ago, boltondiver said: Until challenged If ever........ But that means we have an open border. How will the DUP react to treating Irish borders differently to rest of UK ? How will the other lot react if we do not keep open ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 7 hours ago, boltondiver said: I have stated a few times that this is a non-issue Good. Glad you have it sorted. You can not explain it but as long as you know the Irish problem is sorted. Phew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 9 hours ago, boltondiver said: Until challenged If ever........ And when challenged? As it will be almost instantly..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Ani said: Good. Glad you have it sorted. You can not explain it but as long as you know the Irish problem is sorted. Phew. No need to be sarky, pal! this outlines https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/wto-says-its-rules-would-not-force-eu-or-uk-to-erect-hard-irish-border-1.3710136%3fmode=amp Edited January 16, 2019 by boltondiver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, Ani said: Good. Glad you have it sorted. You can not explain it but as long as you know the Irish problem is sorted. Phew. Brexiteers have spent two years lying about it. Only now are they actually looking at the reality, yet still they have to lie constantly about technology that doesn't exist being able to manage a land border with over 200 crossing points. It is absolutely ludicrous that the media have allowed, blatant lie after lie after lie from Brexiteers to be relatively unchallenged until now. For the first time I heard on the radio today the nonsense about WTO rules being "great and no problem" being accurately challenged by an interviewer.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 1 minute ago, boltondiver said: No need to be sarky, pal! this outlines https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/wto-says-its-rules-would-not-force-eu-or-uk-to-erect-hard-irish-border-1.3710136%3fmode=amp By the way, I've been saying this for 2 years.....the issue is that we will be challenged and very quickly and no UK electable government will complicitly flout WTO rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 12 minutes ago, boltondiver said: No need to be sarky, pal! this outlines https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/wto-says-its-rules-would-not-force-eu-or-uk-to-erect-hard-irish-border-1.3710136%3fmode=amp Treating the Irish border differently than the rest of the UK is not acceptable to the DUP. Every solution involves doing this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Just now, Ani said: Treating the Irish border differently than the rest of the UK is not acceptable to the DUP. Every solution involves doing this. Who’s going to put this hard border up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jol_BWFC Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 8 hours ago, boltondiver said: I have stated a few times that this is a non-issue And you have been wrong on each occasion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jol_BWFC Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Who’s going to put this hard border up? Mexico. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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