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1 hour ago, kent_white said:

Corbyn to win the next election, pull us out with no deal, win back the alienated working classes and usher in a new era of socialist utopia.

YHIHF :)

And he’ll discover a way we will all live forever

:)

 

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1 hour ago, ZiggyStardust said:

How so ?

It was made quite clear, by both sides, that a leave vote meant the following:

Exiting the customs union.

Exiting the Single Market

Exiting Free Movement.

Exiting ECJ jurisdiction.

The only thing that has changed, is the term 'hard brexit'.

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Nonsense 

How many times was “Norway aren’t in the EU and they are doing allright’ trotted out in the build up to the referendum? Why if the plan was to fully leave would Norway even get a mention? Likewise Switzerland  

Go back to the original Brexit thread on here for context. The leave supporters were of the impression that it would all be sorted very quickly and we would be able to pick and choose the best bits of membership, which included free trade! 

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19 minutes ago, gonzo said:

So if we leave without a deal in March, what happens to the Irish border?

Nothing

until or if it is challenged under WTO rules

easily googleable

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15 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

Until challenged

If ever........

 

 

So the EU are going to go to all these lengths to include the backstop as part of the deal (and refuse to budge on any renegotiation of this aspect of the deal), but then if we leave with no deal they will turn around and say "sod it, let's just leave it as it is and not challenge it; in fact, let's just do the same with every other border point the EU has with non-EU countries and have a free for all"?

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1 hour ago, Jol_BWFC said:

So the EU are going to go to all these lengths to include the backstop as part of the deal (and refuse to budge on any renegotiation of this aspect of the deal), but then if we leave with no deal they will turn around and say "sod it, let's just leave it as it is and not challenge it; in fact, let's just do the same with every other border point the EU has with non-EU countries and have a free for all"?

I have stated a few times that this is a non-issue

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8 hours ago, Casino said:

How is that getting our borders back

 

We wanted an end to freedom of movement, we can work towards managing borders through a technological solution, were not far away from achieving our goals now, hold our nerve and a WA remainers said wasn’t achievable is within our sights. 

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Reading  the down beat messages from European leaders this morning has made my day, reality stares them in the face their brinksmanship aided and abetted by TM and the civil service has come to nought. They are going to have to tweak the deal, we will soon see if it was their final offer. 

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BBC et al wanking themselves silly about the biggest ever defeat for a Government.

anyone can see that this is a defeat for Theresa May and her mental idea.

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7 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

BBC ETV al wanking themselves silly about the biggest ever defeat for a Government.

anyone can see that this is a defeat for Theresa May and her mental idea.

The EU also are to blame here, they thought they could rail road a deal through that wasn’t actually Brexit and trouser the cash. How wrong they were, they now need to wake up and smell the coffee. 

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9 hours ago, boltondiver said:

Until challenged

If ever........

 

 

But that means we have an open border. How will the DUP react to treating Irish borders differently to rest of UK ? 

 

How will the other lot react if we do not keep open ?

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7 minutes ago, Ani said:

Good. Glad you have it sorted. 

 

You can not explain it but as long as you know the Irish problem is sorted. Phew. 

No need to be sarky, pal!

this outlines

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/wto-says-its-rules-would-not-force-eu-or-uk-to-erect-hard-irish-border-1.3710136%3fmode=amp

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5 minutes ago, Ani said:

Good. Glad you have it sorted. 

 

You can not explain it but as long as you know the Irish problem is sorted. Phew. 

Brexiteers have spent two years lying about it. Only now are they actually looking at the reality, yet still they have to lie constantly about technology that doesn't exist being able to manage a land border with over 200 crossing points. 

It is absolutely ludicrous that the media have allowed, blatant lie after lie after lie from Brexiteers to be relatively unchallenged until now. For the first time I heard on the radio today the nonsense about WTO rules being "great and no problem" being accurately challenged by an interviewer....

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1 minute ago, boltondiver said:

By the way, I've been saying this for 2 years.....the issue is that we will be challenged and very quickly and no UK electable government will complicitly flout WTO rules.

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12 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

Treating the Irish border differently than the rest of the UK is not acceptable to the DUP. Every solution involves doing this. 

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