MalcolmW Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 10 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said: No. Both sides have to agree otherwise any solution is a waste of time. If the technology exists then implement it during transition - you know of course, that it doesn't. We signed a deal with the EU. It was agreed between our government and the EU - after a lot of EU concessions. This is now being airbrushed. Because our politicians cannot agree on anything we go back to blaming the EU. But we agreed this deal...signed it....as did the EU...... So Parliament has no part to play in this? Righto. The EU can and will magically bend their rules if they see a need to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MancWanderer Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 12 hours ago, bolty58 said: No jobs going - just axing the production of a new diesel X Trail due to falling popularity of diesel vehicles with customers. Even Nissan have said that this decision is not Brexit related but that 'Brexit is not helpful'. More Project Fear. Not exactly, but pretty much my view This has been caused by the disincentive to buy diesel cars Obviously Brexit isn’t helpful because it means that Nissan can’t plan ahead with any certainty. If all the entrenched fuckers on both sides would actually work productively together to ensure the best deal, instead of sniping at each other, companies like Nissan could at the very least start to plan ahead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darwen_white Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Don't know his name. Hans Maessen (?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 35 minutes ago, MalcolmW said: So Parliament has no part to play in this? Righto. The EU can and will magically bend their rules if they see a need to. I'm stating things from the EU perspective. It isn't their fault we are hopeless and cannot decide what it is we actually want.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalcolmW Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 15 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said: I'm stating things from the EU perspective. It isn't their fault we are hopeless and cannot decide what it is we actually want.... It isn't their fault that we have a minority government. Even with the majority before the last GE the ERG would have been strong enough to vote a deal down, but now both wings can do so. Beyond that, the bluff and bluster attempts at hardball come from the EU while we try to abide by the "rules", as usual. But soon it will all come to an end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted February 4, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted February 4, 2019 1 hour ago, MalcolmW said: Because the EU can choose not to accept that the technology is working for ever and a day. He seems to forget the deal wasn't agreed. The deal that used a backstop because parties chose not to go down the technological route. If they'd listened to those that said it could be used, we could have been well down the road by now to getting practical solutions. They're just proving the leave vote correct. That includes the nay sayers and doom mongers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon boy Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 2 hours ago, bwfcfan5 said: I'm stating things from the EU perspective. It isn't their fault we are hopeless and cannot decide what it is we actually want.... Why are you stating things from the EU perspective? Surely it’s not in the UK’s interest to give them everything they want? whos side are you on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombwfc Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 10 hours ago, boltondiver said: I reckon I’d believe an MEP who has been there for years and seen the EU in close up over some bloke on a football forum. Just saying like Worked a treat so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 29 minutes ago, Tombwfc said: Worked a treat so far. Excellent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted February 4, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted February 4, 2019 4 hours ago, darwen_white said: Hans Maessen (?) No, was some dude in border force/customs or some such. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted February 4, 2019 Author Share Posted February 4, 2019 Bit of a sickener for those cretins who thought we’d have 20 billion mile long tailbacks isn’t it ? Thick bastards those who fell for it........the closer we get, the more obvious the lies become for the remaining wankers.. And they said the old ones were thick haha.......let’s be clear here....we’ve seen and heard it all before..wake up snowflakes https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47121225 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyldesley_white Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, miamiwhite said: Bit of a sickener for those cretins who thought we’d have 20 billion mile long tailbacks isn’t it ? Thick bastards those who fell for it........the closer we get, the more obvious the lies become for the remaining wankers.. And they said the old ones were thick haha.......let’s be clear here....we’ve seen and heard it all before..wake up snowflakes https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47121225 Nice to see that we will have secure borders then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted February 4, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted February 4, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, tyldesley_white said: Nice to see that we will have secure borders then Illegal immigrants will be delighted that they don't even have to risk their lives any more. Just jump in the back of a wagon and they'll get waved through. ISIS will be ordering a fleet of trucks as we speak. Superb. Edited February 4, 2019 by Cheese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darwen_white Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 12 hours ago, bwfcfan5 said: Is it really necessary for Brexiteer nonsense to be posted time and time again having been debunked already a million times? There is no technology in operation to manage a border like Ireland/NI. The idea that its "not a problem" to not have checks and tariffs in a no deal is nonsensical. Both the EU and UK would be obliged to manage that border somehow under WTO rules to avoid a challenge on preferential trading arrangements. That has already been explained a million times. No border in the world currently under such an arrangement operates without some border presence. It simply doesn't happen. The facts are crystal clear. Somehow we'd HAVE to check goods for standards but also under for origin to manage tariffs. There is nowhere in the world where such checks are carried out entirely away from the border with no regulatory alignment. Interesting article on the Irish border here: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/02/02/twelve-reasons-irish-backstop-makes-no-sense/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 16 minutes ago, darwen_white said: Interesting article on the Irish border here: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/02/02/twelve-reasons-irish-backstop-makes-no-sense/ I think you’ll find it will be poo pood by the “know better than you” crew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted February 4, 2019 Author Share Posted February 4, 2019 1 hour ago, tyldesley_white said: Nice to see that we will have secure borders then Hey...what has it got to you with you,you ex pat hypocrite? Just for balance for those quick to call Bolty and Mounts.....typical of those forgetful left wing clowns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted February 4, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted February 4, 2019 58 minutes ago, Cheese said: Illegal immigrants will be delighted that they don't even have to risk their lives any more. Just jump in the back of a wagon and they'll get waved through. ISIS will be ordering a fleet of trucks as we speak. Superb. Jumping in the back of a truck is the risky bit. As for the Isis trucks, are any made over here? Be great for the economy if they were, flog them then use them for target practice for the airforce. What's not to like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted February 4, 2019 Author Share Posted February 4, 2019 50 minutes ago, darwen_white said: Interesting article on the Irish border here: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/02/02/twelve-reasons-irish-backstop-makes-no-sense/ 33 minutes ago, boltondiver said: I think you’ll find it will be poo pood by the “know better than you” crew The left are known as the left purely because they’ve been left behind in every walk,shape,form and trait of humanity. 100% FACT. Hope that helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted February 4, 2019 Author Share Posted February 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Jumping in the back of a truck is the risky bit. As for the Isis trucks, are any made over here? Be great for the economy if they were, flog them then use them for target practice for the airforce. What's not to like? Im glad you posted that knob’s reply mate. They bleat like fuck re border issues....then,when it’s sorted and clarified, they still bleat like a bigger baby than Billy Bunter when the tuck shop is shut. They can’t be be pleased...just like like their women...no wonder they watch shit like East is EastEnders, EUmmerdale and CoroAsian Street. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted February 4, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted February 4, 2019 5 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Jumping in the back of a truck is the risky bit. Not any more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted February 4, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted February 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, Cheese said: Not any more. Are the lorries going to stop and drivers unlock the doors for them then? Presumably all fines for drivers will be waived too. In fact there'll be a new rule that they have to be driven straight to Yorkshire for training. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted February 4, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted February 4, 2019 Just now, Tonge moor green jacket said: Are the lorries going to stop and drivers unlock the doors for them then? Presumably all fines for drivers will be waived too. In fact there'll be a new rule that they have to be driven straight to Yorkshire for training. No, you're right. Removing border checks entirely for a while in order to avoid congestion means nothing is going to change. Don't know why any country bothers. There should be totally free movement of goods and people across the entire globe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted February 4, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted February 4, 2019 (edited) Brexiters celebrating the exact opposite of what they actually wanted is the pinnacle of fuck-wittery. Edited February 4, 2019 by Cheese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted February 4, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted February 4, 2019 21 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Are the lorries going to stop and drivers unlock the doors for them then? Presumably all fines for drivers will be waived too. In fact there'll be a new rule that they have to be driven straight to Yorkshire for training. They'd soon stop jumping on lorries if the first stop was Yorkshire! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 28 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Are the lorries going to stop and drivers unlock the doors for them then? Presumably all fines for drivers will be waived too. In fact there'll be a new rule that they have to be driven straight to Yorkshire for training. Oi Is it your Birthday today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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