Moderators Casino Posted February 5, 2019 Moderators Share Posted February 5, 2019 No surrender Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted February 5, 2019 Moderators Share Posted February 5, 2019 However, surely the Tories can't alienate the DUP It might help with brexit, but will bring the government down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter fatolive Posted February 5, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted February 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, Casino said: However, surely the Tories can't alienate the DUP It might help with brexit, but will bring the government down Aye, possibly but, by the time theres a transition period we’d probably be ready for a GE anyway, not sure how they pass owt in the mean time like so a possible flaw if she does worry about them, or maybe this “ I’m a unionist” speech today was aimed at pacifying them, who knows As with everything, there’s obviously loads of issues and counter arguments, but it’s a way of removing the border issue and may be confident of support from elsewhere over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted February 5, 2019 Moderators Share Posted February 5, 2019 Resulting in a fracture of the union No surrender, indeed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leigh white Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 Can the Tories claim that money back what they gave the DUP if they get fucked over like they are doing with Nissan ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted February 6, 2019 Members Share Posted February 6, 2019 1 hour ago, leigh white said: Can the Tories claim that money back what they gave the DUP if they get fucked over like they are doing with Nissan ? Whatever they can or can't do, you can rest assured that the money will actually be the UK's rather than borrowed from overseas due to profligate spending by drunken Labour sailors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalcolmW Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 9 hours ago, kent_white said: Watching the programme made me reconsider my position. I'd always sympathised with Greece, Tspiras and enjoyed listening to Varoufakis as an orator, but watching it from the perspective of the EU was an eye opener. Greece were fucked and did their level best to bite the hand that was trying to save them - and by extension the rest of Eurioe. On the other hand the EU set economic rules for countries joining the Euro. Greece never came close to meeting them, and their statistics were drifting further away, but the politicos in the EU bent the rules to allow Greece in. This was the primary cause of the eventual debacle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 1 minute ago, MalcolmW said: On the other hand the EU set economic rules for countries joining the Euro. Greece never came close to meeting them, and their statistics were drifting further away, but the politicos in the EU bent the rules to allow Greece in. This was the primary cause of the eventual debacle. Another inconvenient truth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leigh white Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 7 hours ago, bolty58 said: Whatever they can or can't do, you can rest assured that the money will actually be the UK's rather than borrowed from overseas due to profligate spending by drunken Labour sailors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 24 minutes ago, MalcolmW said: On the other hand the EU set economic rules for countries joining the Euro. Greece never came close to meeting them, and their statistics were drifting further away, but the politicos in the EU bent the rules to allow Greece in. This was the primary cause of the eventual debacle. True - but that was back in the early 80's when nobody featured in the programme was a prime mover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalcolmW Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 6 minutes ago, kent_white said: True - but that was back in the early 80's when nobody featured in the programme was a prime mover. Whoa. The Euro only launched in 1999 (remember Blair v Brown?). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, MalcolmW said: Whoa. The Euro only launched in 1999 (remember Blair v Brown?). Sorry - I misread your post. I thought you were talking about Greece joining the EU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrelli Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 35 minutes ago, leigh white said: It's obviously the Lib Dems fault then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted February 6, 2019 Members Share Posted February 6, 2019 58 minutes ago, leigh white said: We can all draw colourful cartoons pal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted February 6, 2019 Moderators Share Posted February 6, 2019 debt can increase while the deficit is decreasing just saying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jol_BWFC Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 This made me chuckle. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47143135 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted February 6, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted February 6, 2019 Going down the Trump route. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 11 hours ago, bolty58 said: Whatever they can or can't do, you can rest assured that the money will actually be the UK's rather than borrowed from overseas due to profligate spending by drunken Labour sailors. You realise we are still borrowing close to £40Bn a year don't you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 5 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said: You realise we are still borrowing close to £40Bn a year don't you? I seem to recall that our capacity to spend (and so borrow) was unlimited Apologies if I have misquoted you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 21 minutes ago, boltondiver said: I seem to recall that our capacity to spend (and so borrow) was unlimited Apologies if I have misquoted you. I was responding specifically to the "we're spending our own money and not borrowing it " inaccuracy.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted February 6, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted February 6, 2019 5 hours ago, leigh white said: I'm not one for reading into shit graphs but the thing that strikes me is that towards the end of the Labour years, there was a very sharp increase in the Govt. debt and the Coalition and then Conservatives have slowed down the increase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, MickyD said: I'm not one for reading into shit graphs but the thing that strikes me is that towards the end of the Labour years, there was a very sharp increase in the Govt. debt and the Coalition and then Conservatives have slowed down the increase. Was the increase not down to the financial crisis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted February 6, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted February 6, 2019 Just now, kent_white said: Was the increase not down to the financial crisis? I'm not sure how to read the fine detail such as reason from a wiggly line and a few pastel colours. If it was down to something as broad as "a financial crisis" then surely you'd then need to look deeper into what caused the crisis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrelli Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 Yes, labour bailed out the banks. The Tories have dealt with austerity whilst ensuring all the executives got their bonuses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 13 minutes ago, MickyD said: I'm not sure how to read the fine detail such as reason from a wiggly line and a few pastel colours. If it was down to something as broad as "a financial crisis" then surely you'd then need to look deeper into what caused the crisis. The sub-prime mortgage market in the USA.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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