Guest Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Just now, Nordkurve said: So who is ? The UK Government by withdrawing from the EU, means I won't have those rights anymore. The fact that I lose those rights is directly down to the UK leaving the EU. Explain to me how it is any other groups cause please ? The 17.4m who voted democratically to leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nordkurve Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Just now, boltondiver said: The 17.4m who voted democratically to leave. You know, this is what I don' get. The referendum has been proven to be a campaign of lies (both sides), illegal funding (both sides, but way more on the leave side) and data manipulation (leave side), yet you still call it Democratic ? In a Democracy you are allowed to have a different opinion and you are allowed to change your mind. There is nothing Democratic about saying "tough shit, you lost". This is why the Country is so fucked up. Let's say for example you live in a Street and some loud mouthed fucker decides he doesn't like Cats. The Street decides to have a vote to get rid of Cats. 52% of the Street vote to get rid of Cats. 48% vote to allow Cats. You have a Cat. Would you simply accept it ? Until what is happening directly affects you, you cannot say. Unless you are an EU Citizen in the UK, or vice versa, or a business owner who trades with Europe, how can you understand what effect this will have on those people. It's a shame that the standard answer is "52% blah, blah, blah". If you have kids or grand kids, I hope they accept that reasoning for having their chances of working and living in Europe massively reduced. Anyway, rant over. It's time for Brekkie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 46 minutes ago, Nordkurve said: You know, this is what I don' get. The referendum has been proven to be a campaign of lies (both sides), illegal funding (both sides, but way more on the leave side) and data manipulation (leave side), yet you still call it Democratic ? In a Democracy you are allowed to have a different opinion and you are allowed to change your mind. There is nothing Democratic about saying "tough shit, you lost". This is why the Country is so fucked up. Let's say for example you live in a Street and some loud mouthed fucker decides he doesn't like Cats. The Street decides to have a vote to get rid of Cats. 52% of the Street vote to get rid of Cats. 48% vote to allow Cats. You have a Cat. Would you simply accept it ? Until what is happening directly affects you, you cannot say. Unless you are an EU Citizen in the UK, or vice versa, or a business owner who trades with Europe, how can you understand what effect this will have on those people. It's a shame that the standard answer is "52% blah, blah, blah". If you have kids or grand kids, I hope they accept that reasoning for having their chances of working and living in Europe massively reduced. Anyway, rant over. It's time for Brekkie. Nothwithstanding your view on our democracy, it has happened and it seems you are not accepting it. I'd suggest that it would be best to get on with your life. You have the choice of whether to or not, but if you can find a way of doing this, it might be less painful for you. It isn't in my nature to be patronising, just trying to help a little. I'm sure some of the 17.4m are sensible, rational citizens who feel that this was the best course of action or their country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted February 10, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted February 10, 2019 51 minutes ago, boltondiver said: Nothwithstanding your view on our democracy, it has happened and it seems you are not accepting it. I'd suggest that it would be best to get on with your life. You have the choice of whether to or not, but if you can find a way of doing this, it might be less painful for you. It isn't in my nature to be patronising, just trying to help a little. I'm sure some of the 17.4m are sensible, rational citizens who feel that this was the best course of action or their country. 100% per fuckin cent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted February 10, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted February 10, 2019 15 hours ago, Cheese said: What would help people in that situation then? Crossing their fingers and "believing in Britain" a bit harder? Removing doom mongers, hand wringers, self righteous tossers who repeatedly bemoan their luck and call folk racist, thick, etc.. Put them all on an island, no internet and no connection to the mainland, until they cry themselves to oblivion. Get the infectious diatribes away from society for a while, whilst the rest of us tackle whatever presents itself with positivity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nordkurve Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 9 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: 100% per fuckin cent. Yeh, and I am also sure that the more than 17 million people who don't want Brexit also have some sensible people as well, but as you won, I guess it's "tough shit" ? We live in a Democratic Society that only allows the first opinion (in this case, the Referendum result) to count. Fair enough, I will stay out this thread now. It's wasted time to offer opinions if it keeps going back to "52%". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted February 10, 2019 Author Share Posted February 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, Nordkurve said: Yeh, and I am also sure that the more than 17 million people who don't want Brexit also have some sensible people as well, but as you won, I guess it's "tough shit" ? We live in a Democratic Society that only allows the first opinion (in this case, the Referendum result) to count. Fair enough, I will stay out this thread now. It's wasted time to offer opinions if it keeps going back to "52%". Yes we do. The result stands. You can’t have best of three/five etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted February 10, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted February 10, 2019 I don’t like cats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted February 10, 2019 Author Share Posted February 10, 2019 To lighten the mood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nordkurve Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 (edited) 33 minutes ago, miamiwhite said: Yes we do. The result stands. You can’t have best of three/five etc. Well, you can.... Miami, do you live in Miami or Bolton ? Edited February 10, 2019 by Nordkurve Ask a question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted February 10, 2019 Author Share Posted February 10, 2019 Bolton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nordkurve Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, miamiwhite said: Bolton. Not much difference between the two places really apart from the Weather of course Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nordkurve Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 The Germany + deal looks OK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darwen_white Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 2 hours ago, Nordkurve said: You know, this is what I don' get. The referendum has been proven to be a campaign of lies (both sides), illegal funding (both sides, but way more on the leave side) and data manipulation (leave side), yet you still call it Democratic ? In a Democracy you are allowed to have a different opinion and you are allowed to change your mind. There is nothing Democratic about saying "tough shit, you lost". This is why the Country is so fucked up. Let's say for example you live in a Street and some loud mouthed fucker decides he doesn't like Cats. The Street decides to have a vote to get rid of Cats. 52% of the Street vote to get rid of Cats. 48% vote to allow Cats. You have a Cat. Would you simply accept it ? Until what is happening directly affects you, you cannot say. Unless you are an EU Citizen in the UK, or vice versa, or a business owner who trades with Europe, how can you understand what effect this will have on those people. It's a shame that the standard answer is "52% blah, blah, blah". If you have kids or grand kids, I hope they accept that reasoning for having their chances of working and living in Europe massively reduced. Anyway, rant over. It's time for Brekkie. Just out of interest, how how is leaving the EU directly affecting you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted February 10, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted February 10, 2019 It's making him cry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 12 minutes ago, Nordkurve said: The Germany + deal looks OK. Thought you were dipping out of this thread?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salford Trotter Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 17 minutes ago, darwen_white said: Just out of interest, how how is leaving the EU directly affecting you? Scroll back up the thread and you will see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youri McAnespie Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 (edited) Nordkurve, there's a manager's job going up Lancaster way, hothouse tomato-growing I believe. I'm sure you could turn your hand to venting etc. - being aeronautical in background? Stop bleating, grow a spine, it'll all pan out... #Fish'n'Chips4Prosecco Edited February 10, 2019 by Youri McAnespie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youri McAnespie Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 (edited) You too, Spider. And the less said about kid stabber Sweep the better. Edited February 10, 2019 by Youri McAnespie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nordkurve Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 1 hour ago, darwen_white said: Just out of interest, how how is leaving the EU directly affecting you? I lose the immediate right to live and work in 27 other Countries. My UK pension will no longer be index linked, etc, etc, etc (no deal Brexit rules apply). If you live in the UK and don't give a shit about working anywhere other than the UK you won't be affected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nordkurve Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: It's making him cry You know nothing about me mate. Making me Cry, no. Making me Angry, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nordkurve Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 36 minutes ago, Youri McAnespie said: Nordkurve, there's a manager's job going up Lancaster way, hothouse tomato-growing I believe. I'm sure you could turn your hand to venting etc. - being aeronautical in background? Stop bleating, grow a spine, it'll all pan out... #Fish'n'Chips4Prosecco Yeh, i'm in if the pay is ok. 6 grand per month minimum though and I don't mean tomatoes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nordkurve Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 58 minutes ago, boltondiver said: Thought you were dipping out of this thread?! I will now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, Nordkurve said: I will now. Good luck for the future I'm sure there are plenty of opportunities open for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youri McAnespie Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, Nordkurve said: Yeh, i'm in if the pay is ok. 6 grand per month minimum though and I don't mean tomatoes. 6kg per month - in tomato vines, they can be burned as fuel... Anyway, dip off, facts and actual real life corollaries of Brexshit aren't welcome here. You too, Spider. And anyone else thinking of coming on here crying about the loss of livelihoods etc. - you're not welcome. Bugger off to the continent if it's so great there, and take those swarthy mouthy Romanian gits that frequent my gym with you... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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