Politics

[tyldesley_white]

1 hour ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Pissing my sides, what does James Felton think is going to end when we leave the EU? Utter clown. 

Reciprocal heath care or maybe the option to live there 365 days of the year

[Mounts Kipper]

8 minutes ago, tyldesley_white said:

Reciprocal heath care or maybe the option to live there 365 days of the year

You have to pay for healthcare in Spain if you are ex pat living there as it stands. You know the second point won’t happen not sure why you felt the need to even mention it. Basically it’s more of project fear from the bitterest losers. 

[tyldesley_white]

1 minute ago, Mounts Kipper said:

You have to pay for healthcare in Spain if you are ex pat living there as it stands. You know the second point won’t happen not sure why you felt the need to even mention it. Basically it’s more of project fear from the bitterest losers. 

There are not ex-pats, they are  immigrants, you know just like Poles in the UK, and on the second point it as already been mention that the EU are looking at a type of ESTA that give you the right to stop 90 days in every 180, will that happen? who knows but I would say it being looked at.

[Guest Nordkurve]

7 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

You have to pay for healthcare in Spain if you are ex pat living there as it stands. You know the second point won’t happen not sure why you felt the need to even mention it. Basically it’s more of project fear from the bitterest losers. 

That's 100% not true for Pensioners. My Mum and Dad lived there for more than ten years. They both passed away in Spain in the last couple of years. They paid no Health Insurance. It was completely free for registered Brits living in Spain. Theresa May will end Freedom of Movement. That works both ways. It means you will no longer simply be able to go and live in Spain no questions asked. You will have to apply to live there, and you can be knocked back if it is deemed you will be a burden in anyway.

Edited February 11, 2019 by Nordkurve

[miamiwhite]

4 hours ago, Jol_BWFC said:

If you think I'm going to search your back catalogue of bile, I have better things to do. You don't have to put "I hate Asians" in a post to make you racist. Your incessant abuse of Khan, the regular posts about Asian grooming gangs, focussing on Asian and Syrian immigrants (as opposed to immigration in general), highlighting stabbings in London and that they are black-on-black etc. You align yourself with those like Tommy Robinson who are far-right activists and who was a member of the BNP. You go on marches attended by far-right individuals. It leaves a very clear impression to me of your point of view. 

You say you're not racist and if you insist you're not, then so be it. I'm not going to have an ongoing disagreement over this. But that's not how it's coming across to me, so perhaps you wish to consider how your posts on here portray you.

To turn back to the matter in hand, Brexit, I had a group of friends over at mine for the weekend and one was telling me that he's been told that he's going to have to move to Dublin in April because his clients are EU companies (Italy and Spain predominantly) and his company have made the decision that they need to move his team to an EU country to be able to continue to provide the necessary services to them.  He's just bought a new house in London and moved in with his girlfriend. Tough shit though.

 

p.s. for future reference, slander is the spoken word. If it's written, it's Libel. Every day is a school day and all that.

I take it you can’t find any actual proof then ? Thought as much.

As for my rants abuse Khan.....the proof is in the pudding, he’s useless and doing a very poor job....if Johnson was still the Mayor and doing a very poor job,he’d get stick too without doubt off me.

Grooming gangs....they’re dangerous and preying on our children.....do you actually agree with that ? I find it sickening.

Highlighting stabbing in London....all pure facts....facts you cannot face if truth be known.

Far right individuals ? Hmmmmm, once again, a pure myth and label by the left wing media you’re aligned with.

I’d suggest you’re the racist here,whilst I’m certainly a realist.

I note your silence on the link re the Switzerland deal.....that speaks volumes.

Good day and goodbye to you Sir.

[Mounts Kipper]

42 minutes ago, Nordkurve said:

That's 100% not true for Pensioners. My Mum and Dad lived there for more than ten years. They both passed away in Spain in the last couple of years. They paid no Health Insurance. It was completely free for registered Brits living in Spain. Theresa May will end Freedom of Movement. That works both ways. It means you will no longer simply be able to go and live in Spain no questions asked. You will have to apply to live there, and you can be knocked back if it is deemed you will be a burden in anyway.

Aye ok. If you’ve not had residency for 5 years then you need this.

 

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/healthcare-in-spain#purchasing-public-health-insurance--convenio-especial

Edited February 11, 2019 by Mounts Kipper

[Salford Trotter]

Serious question Si, this trade continuity deal with Switzerland, is this meant to be better than the one already have via the EU because isn't that the point that we have better ones? The Dr better get a move on as we have only signed continuity deals with 4 countries in 2.5 years, the Faroe Islands, Chile, Israel and Switzerland all under the same terms apparently. Only another 36 to go in 6 weeks, that's a lot to do!

[Jol_BWFC]

1 hour ago, miamiwhite said:

I take it you can’t find any actual proof then ? Thought as much.

As for my rants abuse Khan.....the proof is in the pudding, he’s useless and doing a very poor job....if Johnson was still the Mayor and doing a very poor job,he’d get stick too without doubt off me.

Grooming gangs....they’re dangerous and preying on our children.....do you actually agree with that ? I find it sickening.

Highlighting stabbing in London....all pure facts....facts you cannot face if truth be known.

Far right individuals ? Hmmmmm, once again, a pure myth and label by the left wing media you’re aligned with.

I’d suggest you’re the racist here,whilst I’m certainly a realist.

I note your silence on the link re the Switzerland deal.....that speaks volumes.

Good day and goodbye to you Sir.

Ok, so I have just searched "paki" in posts by Miamiwhite. It seems you teach your daughter to avoid leaving items in "Paki Taxis" and are proud of some rather offensive chants at the Euros when you were younger. As I said though, it's not about individual sentences (nobody is going to say on an online forum "I hate Asians") it's your whole demeanour which gives off an impression.  You constantly choose certain topics and negative "facts" related to Asians and black people and it's like a crusade. As for Khan, he is shoe-horned into every thread possible. You think he's doing a terrible job, others disagree. He is up for re-election soon enough, so we'll see if he gets the mandate again or not.

Of course I don't agree with grooming. That's a bit of a silly thing for you to say. It's horrific and anyone who is found guilty should face the full force of the law. And yes, stabbings going up in London is a concern. I cannot face the truth? I'm not sure what that means.  

What left wing media am I aligned with? I didn't realise you delivered my newspapers and checked my TV viewing history.

As for the Switzerland deal, that's a positive step. I think that makes it 4 of the 40 agreements Liam Fox said he wanted to get done by 29 March. I look forward to hearing about one more every day between now and D-Day. Or perhaps I won't. We're simply not prepared for leaving and it is a concern.

Good day to you too. Hopefully "goodbye" will mean you put me on ignore, like our sandal wearing Australian friend. Then this backwards and forwards can stop. I'd be pretty happy not to have a reply from you and I suspect most others who read this thread would too.

 

On ‎15‎/‎10‎/‎2013 at 18:31, miamiwhite said:

my daughter's 18 now and i still worry about her going out due to the fucked up state of play in today's world.

i'm forever texting her,telling her to let me know she gets home safely,''always cover your drinks up in the clubs'',don't leave your phone in a paki taxi etc

 

On ‎27‎/‎05‎/‎2013 at 13:17, miamiwhite said:

i'd rather be a paki than a turk - pissed/drugged up euro 2000 chant in amsterdam

 

 

[Guest]

2 hours ago, Nordkurve said:

That's 100% not true for Pensioners. My Mum and Dad lived there for more than ten years. They both passed away in Spain in the last couple of years. They paid no Health Insurance. It was completely free for registered Brits living in Spain. Theresa May will end Freedom of Movement. That works both ways. It means you will no longer simply be able to go and live in Spain no questions asked. You will have to apply to live there, and you can be knocked back if it is deemed you will be a burden in anyway.

Welcome back

[Guest]

2 hours ago, Nordkurve said:

That's 100% not true for Pensioners. My Mum and Dad lived there for more than ten years. They both passed away in Spain in the last couple of years. They paid no Health Insurance. It was completely free for registered Brits living in Spain. Theresa May will end Freedom of Movement. That works both ways. It means you will no longer simply be able to go and live in Spain no questions asked. You will have to apply to live there, and you can be knocked back if it is deemed you will be a burden in anyway.

Theresa May has ended freedom of movent?

[miamiwhite]

16 minutes ago, Jol_BWFC said:

Ok, so I have just searched "paki" in posts by Miamiwhite. It seems you teach your daughter to avoid leaving items in "Paki Taxis" and are proud of some rather offensive chants at the Euros when you were younger. As I said though, it's not about individual sentences (nobody is going to say on an online forum "I hate Asians") it's your whole demeanour which gives off an impression.  You constantly choose certain topics and negative "facts" related to Asians and black people and it's like a crusade. As for Khan, he is shoe-horned into every thread possible. You think he's doing a terrible job, others disagree. He is up for re-election soon enough, so we'll see if he gets the mandate again or not.

Of course I don't agree with grooming. That's a bit of a silly thing for you to say. It's horrific and anyone who is found guilty should face the full force of the law. And yes, stabbings going up in London is a concern. I cannot face the truth? I'm not sure what that means.  

What left wing media am I aligned with? I didn't realise you delivered my newspapers and checked my TV viewing history.

As for the Switzerland deal, that's a positive step. I think that makes it 4 of the 40 agreements Liam Fox said he wanted to get done by 29 March. I look forward to hearing about one more every day between now and D-Day. Or perhaps I won't. We're simply not prepared for leaving and it is a concern.

Good day to you too. Hopefully "goodbye" will mean you put me on ignore, like our sandal wearing Australian friend. Then this backwards and forwards can stop. I'd be pretty happy not to have a reply from you and I suspect most others who read this thread would too.

 

 

 

 

Two from 6 years ago....is that the best you can do ?

One was pissed up and drugged up like I said......we all make mistakes don’t we ?

Nothing since though.

I won’t put you on ignore,as you make sense re the Switzerland deal,and like you say,hopefully many more will follow suit.

We’ll engage more once Sadiq doesn’t get re-elected.

 

Back to the EU now....I see Irexit is starting to gain momentum,as is Frexit.....totally mad footage there from the weekend of firefighters v the police....total madness.

And J K Rowling gaining support for a group going against Corbyn.

It’s a crazy world.

[miamiwhite]

One last thing Jol...please don’t make out I hate all Asians, as I have probably have many more Asian friends than you do.

It's certain ones I do not like...and yes,it’s those which are usually the grooming gangs.....what exactly do they offer community wise other than ruling the roost in certain crime figures ? Not to mention frequent extremist radicals chanting “death to the west”......I know which is more racist than mentioning taxis and a pissed up chant from 19 years ago.

Thankfully,I’ll leave it at that now and purely concentrate on Brexit.

Edited February 11, 2019 by miamiwhite

[Tonge moor green jacket]

There have been plenty of such references from time to time, from a variety of posters.

Context is important, and it doesn't mean everyone that makes such a comment is a raging racist.

 

[miamiwhite]

29 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

There have been plenty of such references from time to time, from a variety of posters.

Context is important, and it doesn't mean everyone that makes such a comment is a raging racist.

 

Thank you R.

How many references have been made re supporters of other clubs,countries’ supporters etc ?

Folk forget points like that.

[Zico]

bet i've said paki a few times and I spend half my time on here sticking up for them

[Spider]

It's possible to live, work and socialise with Asians whilst also hating Asian grooming gangs. It's not a double standard, it's just a standard.

Miami isn't a racist. He hasn't been out on the streets for a Paki-bashing for months.

I've said before and will say again - the Pakistani community needs to do all it can to weed out what is an obvious problem alongside the authorities. That's not controversial, racist or antagonistic, it's just common sense. I'm confident that is happening quietly but away from the public eye, which is sensible.

Let's get some perspective. 

 

[Winchester White]

My dad used to call anyone brown a Paki and anyone black a nignog. When he had a heart attack he thanked his doctor (a nignog) for helping him out at Manc Royal.  He spoke better English than my daft old dad (RIP).

[Mounts Kipper]

4 hours ago, Salford Trotter said:

Serious question Si, this trade continuity deal with Switzerland, is this meant to be better than the one already have via the EU because isn't that the point that we have better ones? The Dr better get a move on as we have only signed continuity deals with 4 countries in 2.5 years, the Faroe Islands, Chile, Israel and Switzerland all under the same terms apparently. Only another 36 to go in 6 weeks, that's a lot to do!

These deals with smaller countries while important aren’t the deals we need to renegotiate happy to arrange same deal as we already have, the main focus will be on China, USA,  India, and that’s where we could benefit massively. 

Edited February 11, 2019 by Mounts Kipper

[Cheese]

1 minute ago, Mounts Kipper said:

These deals with smaller countries while important aren’t the deals we need to renegotiate happy to arrange same deal as we already have, the main focus will be on China, USA and India and that’s where we could be exploited massively. 

Fixed your post to make it more accurate. If you think the likes of China, USA and India are itching to give us amazing trade deals - better than the ones we already have as a member of the EU - you are massively deluded. 

[miamiwhite]

21 minutes ago, Spider said:

It's possible to live, work and socialise with Asians whilst also hating Asian grooming gangs. It's not a double standard, it's just a standard.

Miami isn't a racist. He hasn't been out on the streets for a Paki-bashing for months.

I've said before and will say again - the Pakistani community needs to do all it can to weed out what is an obvious problem alongside the authorities. That's not controversial, racist or antagonistic, it's just common sense. I'm confident that is happening quietly but away from the public eye, which is sensible.

Let's get some perspective. 

 

Have a plus one sir. Quite eloquently said.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

The EU documentary series in covering mass migration. Nice on Angela. And juncker. 

[Not in Crawley]

It’s not about going round throwing punches at ethic minorities.

There’s inferance - bigotry isn’t just about being a paid up member of extreme far right groups, and I’m afraid it’s all over parts of this thread. The difficulty is it’s hard to see it if you only think you speak the truth.

[Salford Trotter]

1 hour ago, Mounts Kipper said:

These deals with smaller countries while important aren’t the deals we need to renegotiate happy to arrange same deal as we already have, the main focus will be on China, USA,  India, and that’s where we could benefit massively. 

Some of those 36 deals also include trade deals with Japan and South Korea, I'd wager they'd be up there with some pretty important trade partners that we'd need to agree a continuity trade deal with, don't you agree?

Edit: Just watch the India trade deal as they've already intimated they'll be looking for the relaxation of the current Visa controls, is that what you want?

Edited February 11, 2019 by Salford Trotter

[Mounts Kipper]

14 minutes ago, Salford Trotter said:

Some of those 36 deals also include trade deals with Japan and South Korea, I'd wager they'd be up there with some pretty important trade partners that we'd need to agree a continuity trade deal with, don't you agree?

Edit: Just watch the India trade deal as they've already intimated they'll be looking for the relaxation of the current Visa controls, is that what you want?

I’d agree Japan for sure the EU just agreed a free trade deal with japan. I’m very relaxed about immigration of folk from any where as long as they’ve something to offer, something to offer being key, rather than freedom of movement for folk who offer nothing just because they’ve an EU passport. 

Edited February 11, 2019 by Mounts Kipper

[Cheese]

14 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

I’d agree Japan for sure the EU just agreed a free trade deal with japan. I’m very relaxed about immigration of folk from any where as long as they’ve something to offer, something to offer being key, rather than freedom of movement for folk who offer nothing just because they’ve an EU passport. 

Jesus Christ. 3 years later, and he still doesn't understand it. The fact this moron expects to waltz into Spain when he retires makes it even more bizarre. Cognitive dissonance. 

Edited February 11, 2019 by Cheese