Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted February 12, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted February 12, 2019 1 hour ago, boltondiver said: Who were you speaking to? He won't be speaking to crausby that's for sure. He and his people are a waste of space. I really needed help a few months back over a very a serious personal issue. Sent an e-mail requesting a meeting. Apart from the usual automated response saying they will get back to me, I've heard 100% of Jack Shit. Fucking waste of an MPs salary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 12 minutes ago, royal white said: How ironic that you say leavers don’t go fact, evidence or reality......then go on to say 95% of politicians can’t bring themselves to do the right thing! Utter shite... The vast majority know this is a mess. They cannot agree in sufficient how to extricate themselves from the mess. That was my point. It was, poorly worded. I apologise. And I cannot prove this and do not state it as fact. But I'd bet were you to sack all the MPs and say to them "you are no longer in office and can never run again for office" and then as they trooped out give them a ballot box which says "should Brexit proceed" the vast majority would say "NO". Or at the very least "not in its current form". My point which you won't accept is that even those Tory MPs who voted for May's deal, did so out of loyalty or fear of no deal. The vast majority if you took party whips, self preservation and everything out of it, would support something very different..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Just now, bwfcfan5 said: The vast majority know this is a mess. They cannot agree in sufficient how to extricate themselves from the mess. That was my point. It was, poorly worded. I apologise. And I cannot prove this and do not state it as fact. But I'd bet were you to sack all the MPs and say to them "you are no longer in office and can never run again for office" and then as they trooped out give them a ballot box which says "should Brexit proceed" the vast majority would say "NO". Or at the very least "not in its current form". My point which you won't accept is that even those Tory MPs who voted for May's deal, did so out of loyalty or fear of no deal. The vast majority if you took party whips, self preservation and everything out of it, would support something very different..... You're still making bullshit up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Mounts Kipper said: You're still making bullshit up. At least you've learned something today.... Anyhow, could you explain to me how the EU visa system will allow you to spend the majority of your time in Spain...you never actually got round to answering that..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 I present without comment the findings and membership of the Treasure Committee... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47209369 Member Party Nicky Morgan (Chair) Conservative Rushanara Ali Labour Mr Steve Baker Conservative Colin Clark Conservative Mr Simon Clarke Conservative Charlie Elphicke Conservative Stewart Hosie Scottish National Party Alison McGovern Labour Catherine McKinnell Labour John Mann Labour Wes Streeting Labour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 14 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said: At least you've learned something today.... Anyhow, could you explain to me how the EU visa system will allow you to spend the majority of your time in Spain...you never actually got round to answering that..... I have said all along there will be a deal, which will allow same access and rights as we currently have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyldesley_white Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 9 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: I have said all along there will be a deal, which will allow same access and rights as we currently have. So how is this taking control of our borders ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youri McAnespie Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Mahou is catpiss that even Spanish hobos shun. FACT #1 (source: common knowledge). The Spanish plan to sequester all retirement lairs of Brexiteer immigrants only then unceremoniously boot them out. FACT #2 (source: King Juan Carlos' butler). Nigel Farage has been smuggling in Romanian Gypsies via the service tunnel of the Chunnel to work in his child chimney-sweep and pickpocket ring (source: Eurostar guard in a pub near Waterloo station). More facts to follow... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 28 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said: I present without comment the findings and membership of the Treasure Committee... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47209369 Member Party Nicky Morgan (Chair) Conservative Rushanara Ali Labour Mr Steve Baker Conservative Colin Clark Conservative Mr Simon Clarke Conservative Charlie Elphicke Conservative Stewart Hosie Scottish National Party Alison McGovern Labour Catherine McKinnell Labour John Mann Labour Wes Streeting Labour The report comments on Hammond saying that there will be a Brexit dividend not being true because it has already been factored into forecast by the OBR. Just what are you trying to prove here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalcolmW Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 The reality is that, if it is so difficult to leave the EU now, just think how difficult it would be when we next got an opportunity in 10, 20 or even more years. Whatever the strains might be, they are definitely worth having the courage to face. The possibility of Germany fudging the issue in the last 48 hours will remain real even if all seems lost. I'm sure Mr Putin is watching the backbone being displayed by so many Britons with interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 9 minutes ago, MalcolmW said: The reality is that, if it is so difficult to leave the EU now, just think how difficult it would be when we next got an opportunity in 10, 20 or even more years. Whatever the strains might be, they are definitely worth having the courage to face. The possibility of Germany fudging the issue in the last 48 hours will remain real even if all seems lost. I'm sure Mr Putin is watching the backbone being displayed by so many Britons with interest. If leaving becomes more difficult with time then we obviously shouldn't be leaving.... If the EU as some predict collapses, then leaving is easier..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 49 minutes ago, tyldesley_white said: So how is this taking control of our borders ? Think you are all confused. I am talking about UK folk living in Spain. Nothing to do with our borders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 1 hour ago, bwfcfan5 said: At least you've learned something today.... Anyhow, could you explain to me how the EU visa system will allow you to spend the majority of your time in Spain...you never actually got round to answering that..... I get it! us leavers are just inferior, with pea-sized brains of an amoeba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted February 12, 2019 Author Share Posted February 12, 2019 Food on the plate for our farmers. https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1069918/brexit-news-trade-deal-japan-shinzo-abe-theresa-may Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted February 12, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted February 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said: I have said all along there will be a deal, which will allow same access and rights as we currently have. 1 hour ago, Mounts Kipper said: Think you are all confused. I am talking about UK folk living in Spain. Nothing to do with our borders. You are beyond deluded. You seem to have abandoned all trace of logical thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalcolmW Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 2 hours ago, bwfcfan5 said: If leaving becomes more difficult with time then we obviously shouldn't be leaving.... If the EU as some predict collapses, then leaving is easier..... \so you would prefer to stay in so that if it collapses leaving will be easier. OK then, it's a fairly passive stance but not mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted February 12, 2019 Moderators Share Posted February 12, 2019 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Cheese said: You are beyond deluded. You seem to have abandoned all trace of logical thought. Hes spent too long with James barker In fact, I think he's given him his password Edited February 12, 2019 by Casino Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted February 12, 2019 Author Share Posted February 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, MalcolmW said: \so you would prefer to stay in so that if it collapses leaving will be easier. OK then, it's a fairly passive stance but not mine. Quality Malc.....praise the lord for the quote function ......he’s a robot and not made from stern stuff isn’t he ? Throwing in the towel when something is tough/awkward.....what a whopper he is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted February 12, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted February 12, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, MalcolmW said: The reality is that, if it is so difficult to leave the EU now, just think how difficult it would be when we next got an opportunity in 10, 20 or even more years. Whatever the strains might be, they are definitely worth having the courage to face. The possibility of Germany fudging the issue in the last 48 hours will remain real even if all seems lost. I'm sure Mr Putin is watching the backbone being displayed by so many Britons with interest. Malc- I presume you watched last night's episode on the EU? Incredible; almost ripping itself apart, breaking their own rules, doing deals behind the backs of others and telling countries with net receipt of EU money they should shut up and tow the party line. Even Tusk made some sense wrt the flood. Angela made a huge fuck up, and it was admitted that some German MPs were advocating shooting migrants! They kept that quiet. Better off out of it. Much, much better off. Edited February 12, 2019 by Tonge moor green jacket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youri McAnespie Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 3 hours ago, boltondiver said: I get it! us leavers are just inferior, with pea-sized brains of an amoeba An amoeba roughly spans 25-75 microns, an average pea is 5000 to 10,000 microns. In other words you're postulating upon an impossibility. If you voted remain you'd have known what nonsensical dribble you'd posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 1 hour ago, MalcolmW said: \so you would prefer to stay in so that if it collapses leaving will be easier. OK then, it's a fairly passive stance but not mine. IF it collapses then agreements with key players would be far easier than now. And leaving now doesn’t appear to give us any advantage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted February 12, 2019 Author Share Posted February 12, 2019 19 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Malc- I presume you watched last night's episode on the EU? Incredible; almost ripping itself apart, breaking their own rules, doing deals behind the backs of others and telling countries with net receipt of EU money they should shut up and tow the party line. Even Tusk made some sense wrt the flood. Angela made a huge fuck up, and it was admitted that some German MPs were advocating shooting migrants! They kept that quiet. Better off out of it. Much, much better off. I saw it R. Quite incredulous really. True bully boys in motion I’m far from a Tusk lover but like you say,he did make some sense on the flood. Just imagine if British MPs were advocating shooting migrants.....crikey, it’d be seen on the moon. And certain folk/cretins think the EU is strong,stable and eternal....haha, it’s more than falling apart mate. It’s got fissures bigger than Johnny Fartpants’s undercrackers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted February 12, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted February 12, 2019 To be honest I was aghast at some of what I saw. Some surprising openness too, especially given what's going on currently. At least those eastern states took no shit and closed the border themselves. Made the job far easier for Tusk etc to negotiate with Turkey. Impressed to that the UK stepped out of the situation with direct offer to the camps. Made sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted February 12, 2019 Author Share Posted February 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: To be honest I was aghast at some of what I saw. Some surprising openness too, especially given what's going on currently. At least those eastern states took no shit and closed the border themselves. Made the job far easier for Tusk etc to negotiate with Turkey. Impressed to that the UK stepped out of the situation with direct offer to the camps. Made sense. Interesting speech here from Carney.....a big contradiction to what he said yesterday.....looks like they’ve started to give up with Project Fear..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted February 12, 2019 Author Share Posted February 12, 2019 Quite tasty from the ITV chap https://www.itv.com/news/2019-02-12/exclusive-uk-chief-brexit-negotiator-olly-robbins-warns-mps-the-choice-is-mays-deal-or-extension/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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