Sweep Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Mounts Kipper said: So Armageddon did not happen, what a shock. certainly didn't, but it's hardly a fantastic state of affairs at present is it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 21 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: It's the permanence that seems to have upset some. For me, I was happy to take it on trust, though can understand their concerns. How can you put a timelimit on an insurance policy there explicitly until other such arrangements are possible? If you could time limit it, you'd not need it in the first place. Both the UK and the EU agree (as was said by the PM yesterday) that the backstop is needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 3 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: It's the permanence that seems to have upset some. For me, I was happy to take it on trust, though can understand their concerns. The problem was that it was left at the discretion of the EU. I pointed out their issue with it about 100 pages back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted February 14, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted February 14, 2019 Just now, boltondiver said: The problem was that it was left at the discretion of the EU. I pointed out their issue with it about 100 pages back Indeed. I'm just not convinced that when push comes to shove that cabinet etc won't bottle it and take take no deal off the table. That would give the remainers power to vote against the WA forever. And the EU to be quite happy. If they can't find a solution between them, I'd rather stick with what was offered than a corbynesque cobbled crap that locks us in even more. Been watching proceedings on and off today- David Davies (not the usual one, but the one for Monmouth) was excellent. Illustrated the conflicting comments from fear mongers, and directly addressed the remainers hiding behind extending article fifty. At least two of these outwardly said they wouldn't vote for any deal. Says it all really. Should resign. Anyway, big vote pending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted February 14, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted February 14, 2019 8 minutes ago, boltondiver said: The problem was that it was left at the discretion of the EU. I pointed out their issue with it about 100 pages back But it's easily solvable using "technology". Brexiteers keep telling us that, so what's the problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 21 minutes ago, Cheese said: But it's easily solvable using "technology". Brexiteers keep telling us that, so what's the problem? Can’t you read what I typed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted February 14, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted February 14, 2019 We ain’t leaving on the 29th. not a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted February 14, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted February 14, 2019 10 minutes ago, boltondiver said: Can’t you read what I typed? Yes, you are saying it's a problem because it's at "the discretion of the EU". Even though that's not true, how does that make any difference? If it's easily solvable using "technology" what is the issue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted February 14, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted February 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, Spider said: We ain’t leaving on the 29th. not a chance. We are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deane koontz Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, Spider said: We ain’t leaving on the 29th. not a chance. 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalcolmW Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 55 minutes ago, Cheese said: Yes, you are saying it's a problem because it's at "the discretion of the EU". Even though that's not true, how does that make any difference? If it's easily solvable using "technology" what is the issue? The EU only need to point to one failure in the system. In fact they can simply pretend they are not satisfied. So no truck with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted February 14, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted February 14, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, MalcolmW said: The EU only need to point to one failure in the system. In fact they can simply pretend they are not satisfied. So no truck with that. If the solution is as easy as the ERG claim, there wouldn't be any failures. So ignoring your conspiracy bollocks, what's the alternative? Edited February 14, 2019 by Cheese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalcolmW Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 Offer NI a vote on leaving UK. No border, no problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Cheese said: Ignoring your conspiracy bollocks, what's the alternative? I’d settle for mediation by a neutral international body. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalcolmW Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 Just now, boltondiver said: I’d settle for mediation by a neutral international body. Such as the President of the USA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted February 14, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted February 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, MalcolmW said: Offer NI a vote on leaving UK. No border, no problem. Jesus Christ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted February 14, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted February 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, boltondiver said: I’d settle for mediation by a neutral international body. Such as? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, MalcolmW said: Such as the President of the USA? He could tweet his verdict I thought UN or similar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalcolmW Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 6 minutes ago, Cheese said: Jesus Christ. Well you did ask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, MalcolmW said: Well you did ask. Have another go, until you get the right answer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalcolmW Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, boltondiver said: Have another go, until you get the right answer That's EU standard procedure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 32 minutes ago, boltondiver said: I’d settle for mediation by a neutral international body. Taking back control folks..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted February 14, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted February 14, 2019 20 minutes ago, MalcolmW said: Well you did ask. Just surprised that you think breaking up the UK is worth whatever benefit it is you'll get from Brexit. Not exactly patriotic is it, but fair enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said: Taking back control folks..... Eh? weird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted February 14, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted February 14, 2019 Just now, boltondiver said: Eh? weird Pretty clear really. Which "neutral international body" would you like to decide our future? Or haven't you thought that far ahead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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