Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted February 15, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted February 15, 2019 2 hours ago, boltondiver said: What’s the import picture ie the other side of the coin? That doesn't count. It would seem we're going to stop trading completely with the EU. Fresh air will be on a meter soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalcolmW Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 15 hours ago, Cheese said: Can you give an example? 14 hours ago, MalcolmW said: San Juan Islands. 13 hours ago, Cheese said: Be serious Malc. You rubbished BD's suggestion of independent mediation. I gave you an example where this happened, so you find this laughable. No surprise then. The islands were disputed between Britain and USA but they didn't want to go to war over the issue, so they referred to the Kaiser for an independent decision. You can say it was 150 or so years ago, you can claim that it is not relevant because it doesn't suit you, but you cannot claim that it is not true. because it is wholly true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: That doesn't count. It would seem we're going to stop trading completely with the EU. Fresh air will be on a meter soon. Already is. Robbing bastard garage round my way charges 50p for their tyre machine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted February 15, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted February 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, MalcolmW said: You rubbished BD's suggestion of independent mediation. I gave you an example where this happened, so you find this laughable. No surprise then. The islands were disputed between Britain and USA but they didn't want to go to war over the issue, so they referred to the Kaiser for an independent decision. You can say it was 150 or so years ago, you can claim that it is not relevant because it doesn't suit you, but you cannot claim that it is not true. because it is wholly true. Ok Malcolm. You know best. Let's do that then. Sorted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darwen_white Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, mickbrown said: Already is. Robbing bastard garage round my way charges 50p for their tyre machine. Could've been a €uro if the EU fanatics had their way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 1 hour ago, darwen_white said: Could've been a €uro if the EU fanatics had their way True, Dyson was pushing for us to enter the Euro, saying we'd go to shit if we didn't go in it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted February 15, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted February 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, Sweep said: True, Dyson was pushing for us to enter the Euro, saying we'd go to shit if we didn't go in it No wonder; he'd have had a great design lined up for a new air pump with "euro-active technology". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 Dyson is a shithouse. Those hand dryers are wank. Might as well hang up a pair of jeans to dry your hands on as that’s what you end up doing in the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/feb/15/brexit-lies-curry-vote-leave-restaurant-industry?fbclid=IwAR0et2Mm12kqrBjky956n_gOVnRrI9OeddbcAiCuZ5fBPurQhlTsuiVExSI The lies of the Brexit campaigners once again laid bare for all to see.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrelli Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 Gullible people were used by brexiteers. Shit happens will be their response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 9 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/feb/15/brexit-lies-curry-vote-leave-restaurant-industry?fbclid=IwAR0et2Mm12kqrBjky956n_gOVnRrI9OeddbcAiCuZ5fBPurQhlTsuiVExSI The lies of the Brexit campaigners once again laid bare for all to see.... Fuck it let’s have another vote, Oli Khan down the local takeaway ain’t happy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 8 minutes ago, Farrelli said: Gullible people were used by brexiteers. Shit happens will be their response. Over 17 million? Really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 24 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/feb/15/brexit-lies-curry-vote-leave-restaurant-industry?fbclid=IwAR0et2Mm12kqrBjky956n_gOVnRrI9OeddbcAiCuZ5fBPurQhlTsuiVExSI The lies of the Brexit campaigners once again laid bare for all to see.... there were lies on both sides, let's be honest about it - both sides were telling fuck off massive whoppers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrelli Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 Just now, royal white said: Over 17 million? Really? It was a combination of older folk who did not want to go in the common market originally (ie. Malc), gullible folk who were given false promises (as per the article posted), poor people who saw a chance to bloody the nose of the governemnt and people who see immigration from the EU as our biggest issue (when it is actually the opposite). These were the people who Farage and co could see were ripe for the picking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 10 minutes ago, Farrelli said: It was a combination of older folk who did not want to go in the common market originally (ie. Malc), gullible folk who were given false promises (as per the article posted), poor people who saw a chance to bloody the nose of the governemnt and people who see immigration from the EU as our biggest issue (when it is actually the opposite). These were the people who Farage and co could see were ripe for the picking. some of that's true....but not 17M, some had other reasons for wanting to leave. They weren't all thick owd racists and paupers, only some of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 17 minutes ago, Farrelli said: It was a combination of older folk who did not want to go in the common market originally (ie. Malc), gullible folk who were given false promises (as per the article posted), poor people who saw a chance to bloody the nose of the governemnt and people who see immigration from the EU as our biggest issue (when it is actually the opposite). These were the people who Farage and co could see were ripe for the picking. Utter shite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrelli Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 7 minutes ago, Sweep said: some of that's true....but not 17M, some had other reasons for wanting to leave. They weren't all thick owd racists and paupers, only some of them Enough to make a significant difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrelli Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, royal white said: Utter shite It's not and you know it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 15 minutes ago, Sweep said: there were lies on both sides, let's be honest about it - both sides were telling fuck off massive whoppers I think that's massive false equivalence. There were exaggerations and the usual political nonsense on both sides. But only one side deliberately and knowingly set up people like the organisation in the story with a pack of absolute lies that they totally knew were not true. The whole "yes but remain said the economy would collapse after the vote" response that I know will follow is a) not the same since it was a prediction and based on economic modelling and the economy DID slow and has remained slowed b) the BoE avoided many of these predictions via quantitative easing and pumping £70Bn into the economy to avoid the worst possible consequences. So telling people "hey you'll be able to bring cheap labour over from Bangladesh and India no problem - an outright lie.....compared to "the economy will suffer significantly" an exaggeration based on some solid predictions with an element of truth to it. Huge false equivalence. IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 7 minutes ago, Farrelli said: It's not and you know it. I know many people who don’t fall into the above, as I bet you probably you do....so yes it is utter shite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 9 minutes ago, royal white said: I know many people who don’t fall into the above, as I bet you probably you do....so yes it is utter shite Which group did you fall into? My view is remain fucked it up as much as leave lied their bollox off. If you live in a shithole with no prospects and some chinless twat like Cameron is offering you the status quo you might as well vote for a change. No real gamble is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 15 minutes ago, mickbrown said: Which group did you fall into? My view is remain fucked it up as much as leave lied their bollox off. If you live in a shithole with no prospects and some chinless twat like Cameron is offering you the status quo you might as well vote for a change. No real gamble is it? None mentioned previously Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Farrelli Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 31 minutes ago, royal white said: I know many people who don’t fall into the above, as I bet you probably you do....so yes it is utter shite I bet that was a large population - half a dozen at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalcolmW Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 I think you'll find that a majority of those who voted Remain in 1975 and voted again in 2016 voted to Leave second time around. Why do you think that is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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