Salford Trotter Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Farrelli said: Don't worry, I'm a democracy denier and a complete tit for wanting a second referendum. I've had that slung at me loads of times😂 i feel like it's my badge of honour now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 20 minutes ago, Salford Trotter said: 😂 You do make me smile Mounts You won’t be smiling next Monday when the people have had their chance to vote and comment on what democracy means to the British people. It will be a game changer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Casino said: We were told we were getting some lovely trade deals before we left Its pretty fcuking clear that's not the case I think folk are well within their rights to do anything in their power to protect their own interests I've pleny to lose Some scrubber with fcuk all really doesn't give a toss Ps how's the Irish border solution coming along? The Irish border solution 😂 I know it , you know it, and every fucker knows it’s a red herring, there will never be a hard border. Edited May 20, 2019 by Mounts Kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, mickbrown said: That there is everything that's wrong with this country at the moment. Nobody can have a discussion anymore No Michael. I’m all for discussion and reasoned debate as I’ve proven numerous times. you are honestly telling me there is nothing wrong with his statement? And it’s not an absolute Piss take and one of the reasons we find ourselves in this perpetual limbo currently then I will be shocked he doesn’t respect the first vote firstly. Secondly he wants a second vote which he will then accept but in the same breath try and unravel immediately thereafter? This is why the the likes of farage have had to darken all our doors again. Attitudes like this in a nutshell So you can keep your smart remarks and bold type to yourself cheers Edited May 20, 2019 by Escobarp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salford Trotter Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 12 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: You won’t be smiling next Monday when the people have had their chance to vote and comment on what democracy means to the British people. It will be a game changer. 33% pro Brexit 67% anti Brexit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 44 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said: When the decision of the vote came out Maggie Tate was telling all and sundry it was a piece of piss to sort out trade deals, all done within a month or so. Falling over to deals with us etc In fairness, he did talk a vast amount of shit. He also claimed climate change doesn't exist, and that people having guns helps prevent gun crime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 16 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: It will be a game changer. No matter what happens, it'll change fuck all, well still be going round in circles for the foreseeable future. I hope I'm wrong, but I can't see The Brexit Party winning most of our MEP seats (evern though we're never allowed to vote for members of the EU Parliament according to some) will make a huge difference in the immediate political landscape, purely because there will still be the same idiots in the HoC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deane koontz Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 How often do they have these European elections? Never heard of them before this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySanchez Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 11 minutes ago, Sweep said: In fairness, he did talk a vast amount of shit. He also claimed climate change doesn't exist, and that people having guns helps prevent gun crime. Aye, but he wasn't the only one with that way of thinking. He is a w/ways reference but I bet there are loads with a similar of thinking 're the EU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Salford Trotter said: 33% pro Brexit 67% anti Brexit? You think everyone not voting for the Brexit party are pro remain, it seems you really are a dim wit. Edited May 20, 2019 by Mounts Kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 Farage speech tonight in Bolton was top quality, he’s absolutely smashing it. It’s a joy to behold. Nigel, Nigel, Nigel. 🇬🇧 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salford Trotter Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: You think everyone not voting for the Brexit party are pro remain, it seems you really are a dim wit. 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Farage speech tonight in Bolton was top quality, he’s absolutely smashing it. It’s a joy to behold. Nigel, Nigel, Nigel. 🇬🇧 No he is preaching to the converted. His party have no policies and no manifesto. Just repeating democracy is not really smashing it. Unless he said something new ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Ani said: No he is preaching to the converted. His party have no policies and no manifesto. Just repeating democracy is not really smashing it. Unless he said something new ? Smashing it, is winning the elections after being a party for just 5 weeks, and they will by a country mile. Think smashing it is a pretty accurate description. Edited May 20, 2019 by Mounts Kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrelli Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 58 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: The Irish border solution 😂 I know it , you know it, and every fucker knows it’s a red herring, there will never be a border. United Ireland. Wow that's a good result for Sinn Fein. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salford Trotter Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 40 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: You think everyone not voting for the Brexit party are pro remain, it seems you really are a dim wit. so why do the polls indicate remain support is in the ascendancy? I reckon The Brexit Party has mopped up the vast majority of Brexit- loving voters and with UKIP probably 45% max. I would suggest that remain support would comfortably be around 55% which is roughly where the polls are. You are good sport Mounts😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/05/20/european-elections-polls-2019-latest-brexit-party-uk/ https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/may/20/pro-anti-brexit-parties-neck-and-neck-eu-election-poll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Salford Trotter said: so why do the polls indicate remain support is in the ascendancy? I reckon The Brexit Party has mopped up the vast majority of Brexit- loving voters and with UKIP probably 45% max. I would suggest that remain support would comfortably be around 55% which is roughly where the polls are. You are good sport Mounts😂 You’ve made up these figures, the other parties have remainers and leavers in their ranks, just admit you’ve not a clue, the only fact is that the Brexit party will smash these elections. Edited May 20, 2019 by Mounts Kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Mounts Kipper said: Farage speech tonight in Bolton was top quality, he’s absolutely smashing it. It’s a joy to behold. Nigel, Nigel, Nigel. 🇬🇧 I went along tonight. They're clearly trying very hard to garner cross party support. Quoting Socialist stalwarts like Sylvia Pankhurst and Tony Benn on more than one occasion. And frequently making the point that 'this isn't about left and right'. Their party video went to great lengths to promote the idea that they had support from all ethnic backgrounds and had a touch of the 'Benetton effect' about it. The faces in the hall were almost universally white. There was one bloke there who might have been Indian but he seemed to be the only one. Nigel Farage was charismatic and amusing in places. Very much playing to the crowd who were lapping it up. He stated that they were hoping a big win for them on Thursday might mean they could demand a seat at the negotiating table. And that they also intended to field candidates in the next General Election. Which again played very well to the crowd. He came out on the offensive re the new election expenses investigations - but perhaps tellingly didn't deny anything - just flung mud at Gordon Brown. To sum up - they make a really compelling argument about upholding democracy. It's very hard to argue with and it did tug at my votestrings. But in 90 minutes they said literally nothing about their plans for the future, or life outside the EU, or how they intend to make Britain a better place. The closest they came was saying we'd leave on WTO rules - but we knew that already. That's been my main criticism all along. Nobody on the leave side has come up with a credible plan for when we leave. And it was the same tonight. Lots of bluster and bravado but ultimately no vision. Or at least not one that they're willing to share. They actually said at one stage 'in a couple of weeks when we start writing our manifesto'. Great turn out though - rough headcount about 7 or 8 hundred. I'd say it was 60/40 men to women. 99.5% white British. Mainly 40+ but more young people than I was expecting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salford Trotter Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 9 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: You’ve made up these figures, the other parties have remainers and leavers in their ranks, just admit you’ve not a clue, the only fact is that the Brexit party will smash these elections. Nope they are based on logic and if you took time to read the polls link i shared on here you will see that my numbers aren't far away. There is one problem though you will have to take your head out of Nigel's arse to read them but i am not sure you want to do that just yet. By the way i take it you support Nigel's policy on the NHS and abolishing discrimination in the workplace based on race and colour, what a lovely guy he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salford Trotter Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Escobarp said: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/05/20/european-elections-polls-2019-latest-brexit-party-uk/ https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/may/20/pro-anti-brexit-parties-neck-and-neck-eu-election-poll They both support my view, remain support in the ascendancy... Thanks for sharing👍 Edited May 20, 2019 by Salford Trotter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Salford Trotter said: They both support my view, remain support in the ascendancy... Thanks for sharing👍 The guardian a pro remain paper has it at 37-36% for remain. You have said remain have a 10% lead. Your figures made up as I suggested. You really should stop digging that hole. Edited May 20, 2019 by Mounts Kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salford Trotter Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 Just now, Mounts Kipper said: The guardian a pro remain paper has it at 37-36% for remain. You have said remain have a 10% lead. Your figures made up as I suggested. Well there is a first, you admit remain is in the ascendancy and the independant pollsters have it the same. As for the Guardian % numbers there are clearly some 'don't knows' in there that's how these things work but i still stand by my assumptions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Salford Trotter said: Well there is a first, you admit remain is in the ascendancy and the independant pollsters have it the same. As for the Guardian % numbers there are clearly some 'don't knows' in there that's how these things work but i still stand by my assumptions Again you can’t admit your figures were bollocks and made up. Par for the course from day one. You’ll get one right one day... law of averages and all that.😂 Edited May 20, 2019 by Mounts Kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter fatolive Posted May 20, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted May 20, 2019 2 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said: The Irish border solution 😂 I know it , you know it, and every fucker knows it’s a red herring, there will never be a hard border. I’ve asked before, without any answer other than “ they won’t come that way” or they’ll have to show their passport to get into England”but that was about 100 pages ago, so I’ll ask again, how does no border between the EU and the UK reconcile itself with your “ tougher control on our borders “ as one of your reasons to leave ? not saying you are wrong or right, just wonder how you marry the two up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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