Salford Trotter Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 9 minutes ago, Ani said: A few Labour MPs voting in support of the government would be interesting. I can't see many as they'll see the golden goose of an election as the ultimate prize. The subsequent election will be interesting with the Tory and Labour vote fractured by a one issue Brexit Party and a resurgent centre ground holding sway in a hung parliament. The only way to break the political paralysis will be to revoke A50 and put it back to the people at some point in the future perhaps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 The issue is that MPs are thinking self preservation. Best interest of the country has been long forgotten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 58 minutes ago, Ani said: So it is mainly the Remainers fault ? I agree that no deal is far from funny. There are so many people who should be ashamed of their role in this. I would start with Cameron and include Corbyn, Farage, Gove, Boris and May. Remainers and Leavers are not the problem. Politicians are. It is politicians I am talking of. All thee daft fuckers waving eu flags and starting facemither and twitter campaigns are hardly going to affect anything are they. They are just very very sad lifeless individuals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 2 hours ago, darwen_white said: the majority of people wanting to leave the EU. Is this definitely true? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 6 minutes ago, Sweep said: Is this definitely true? Was based on the last meaningless referendum we had I think but who cares about the result of that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salford Trotter Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 20 minutes ago, Sweep said: Is this definitely true? Of course it's not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 Airbus now wants to stay Despite/because of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Escobarp said: Was based on the last meaningless referendum we had I think but who cares about the result of that So "the majority of the people who voted" as opposed to "the majority of people" then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salford Trotter Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 1 hour ago, boltondiver said: Airbus now wants to stay Despite/because of That's good news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salford Trotter Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 12 minutes ago, Sweep said: So "the majority of the people who voted" as opposed to "the majority of people" then 13 million eligible voters couldn't be bothered in 2016 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youri McAnespie Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 I reckon' there's probably about 5 million who voted then who now couldn't give a fuck. So when we run the referendum again it'll be definitive, the not arseds have it, the not arseds have it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon boy Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 2 hours ago, Salford Trotter said: 13 million eligible voters couldn't be bothered in 2016 They reckon throughout the U.K. 410 constituency’s voted Leave and 240 voted Remain For Labour 148 Labour constituency’s voted Leave and 84 voted Remain For the Conservatives 247 constituency’s voted Leave and 80 voted Remain So MP’s, or bums on seats, after a GE Parliament will be more Leave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalcolmW Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Moon boy said: They reckon throughout the U.K. 410 constituency’s voted Leave and 240 voted Remain For Labour 148 Labour constituency’s voted Leave and 84 voted Remain For the Conservatives 247 constituency’s voted Leave and 80 voted Remain So MP’s, or bums on seats, after a GE Parliament will be more Leave Sadly, they won't, as they think they know better, despite pretending to let the people decide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salford Trotter Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 17 minutes ago, Moon boy said: They reckon throughout the U.K. 410 constituency’s voted Leave and 240 voted Remain For Labour 148 Labour constituency’s voted Leave and 84 voted Remain For the Conservatives 247 constituency’s voted Leave and 80 voted Remain So MP’s, or bums on seats, after a GE Parliament will be more Leave No one party will gain an overall majority so they'll have to rely on others to get legislation through which will naturally lead to consensus politics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 27 minutes ago, Moon boy said: They reckon throughout the U.K. 410 constituency’s voted Leave and 240 voted Remain For Labour 148 Labour constituency’s voted Leave and 84 voted Remain For the Conservatives 247 constituency’s voted Leave and 80 voted Remain So MP’s, or bums on seats, after a GE Parliament will be more Leave Depends on when it happens if before Brexit, I think the key question will be how many Labour votes hold, versus how many TBP secure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalcolmW Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 Labour MPs will be limited. While there has always been a hard core of half a dozen or so who will vote to leave with a suitable deal, most will still not want to step out of line when they fully expect to gain power in 2022. Many of those with ministerial/shadow experience are still hoping to be forgiven for their original disbelief that Corbyn could ever win. Nandy is a prime example, plus the three chess prodigies (Reeves + 2 Eagles). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon boy Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Salford Trotter said: No one party will gain an overall majority so they'll have to rely on others to get legislation through which will naturally lead to consensus politics. Like now you mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon boy Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 13 minutes ago, MalcolmW said: Labour MPs will be limited. While there has always been a hard core of half a dozen or so who will vote to leave with a suitable deal, most will still not want to step out of line when they fully expect to gain power in 2022. Many of those with ministerial/shadow experience are still hoping to be forgiven for their original disbelief that Corbyn could ever win. Nandy is a prime example, plus the three chess prodigies (Reeves + 2 Eagles). Do you honestly think Labour have a chance of winning a GE, at any time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalcolmW Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, Moon boy said: Do you honestly think Labour have a chance of winning a GE, at any time? They do. Honestly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Winchester White Posted May 26, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted May 26, 2019 Labour have to change now or they are goosed. Just like the Tories have to. One will be leave, one remain (or a 2nd vote) and I think we can all work out which will be which. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted May 26, 2019 Moderators Share Posted May 26, 2019 I'm a Tory voter Whenever I've been arsed to vote And I still will vote Tory as the alternative of corbyn, that gormless double barrelled cow and the numb bint from Stockport cannot be taken seriously However a middle ground remain party would get my vote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salford Trotter Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 30 minutes ago, Moon boy said: Like now you mean? It will be even more so after the next GE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darwen_white Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 18 minutes ago, Salford Trotter said: It will be even more so after the next GE But the people want to Remain. Change UK will clean up, won't they...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salford Trotter Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 26 minutes ago, darwen_white said: But the people want to Remain. Change UK will clean up, won't they...? Let's wait for the analysis but Change UK will do really poorly, the remain vote will coalesce around Lib Dems/the tory and labour rump, the greens and the SNP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 17 minutes ago, Salford Trotter said: Let's wait for the analysis but Change UK will do really poorly, the remain vote will coalesce around Lib Dems/the tory and labour rump, the greens and the SNP Lib Dems will take London; they can have it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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