Salford Trotter Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 2 hours ago, Spider said: I’ve changed my mind We will leave on 31st October. Theres simply too much actual preparation going on this time. Previous dates have seen very little in terms of tangible effort by the government, but this time round actual ‘things’ are happening. And I’m not just talking about signs for truckers on the motorway. We’re fucking getting out, come what may. Looks like the DUP will be the ones to crack after they saw the polls for a united Ireland are now in favour if we go No Deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalcolmW Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, Salford Trotter said: Looks like the DUP will be the ones to crack after they saw the polls for a united Ireland are now in favour if we go No Deal DUP no longer hold the Government hostage. What is needed is rapidly moving towards May's position before Arlene Foster weighed in. Somewhat ironic if it actually passes HoC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted September 13, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted September 13, 2019 7 minutes ago, Salford Trotter said: Looks like the DUP will be the ones to crack after they saw the polls for a united Ireland are now in favour if we go No Deal They're the key to it all. I can't imagine any of them will die poor after this is all over..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Winchester White said: Are you talking about A50? I am Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salford Trotter Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 6 minutes ago, Spider said: They're the key to it all. I can't imagine any of them will die poor after this is all over..... Johnson must have told them the way it is when Foster et al flew over and they must be shifting their red lines before they are shifted for them. It'll be interesting to see how many Conservative and Unionist MPs will vote for a revised May deal if the DUP do acquiesce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 It’s rapidly moving towards a deal, who’s have thought it. 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salford Trotter Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: It’s rapidly moving towards a deal, who’s have thought it. 😂 Yet another UK concession..... if it happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: It’s rapidly moving towards a deal, who’s have thought it. 😂 Will it get through Parliament? i mean Labour, really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Winchester White Posted September 13, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted September 13, 2019 8 minutes ago, boltondiver said: I am In part I agree, however as it is against EU law to negotiate trade deals whilst still in the EU then our hands were tied. I do think the sequencing of trade talks were against us after that but we are the minor party in this negotiation unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Just now, Mounts Kipper said: It’s rapidly moving towards a deal, who’s have thought it. 😂 I'm not sure anybody really thought we wouldn't get a deal (as in leave with no deal, I've said all along that neither the EU or the UK would allow that to happen) What is absolutely superb though is that it's a deal that the ERG and Farage don't want/like No matter what happens, people on both sides will call the deal shit We should also remember, this isn't even the complex bit, this is only the WA............we'll still have years and years of fun to come yet (unless all the trade deals can be done in an afternoon, over a cup of tea) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, boltondiver said: Will it get through Parliament? i mean Labour, really we shouldn't laugh, but it would be mildly amusing if Johnson tried to bring back basically a warmed up version of the TM deal, and then it got bounced again, by JRM and his cronies knifing him in the back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 9 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: It’s rapidly moving towards a deal, who’s have thought it. 😂 I'm not sure anything in this process can be deemed as "rapidly moving" we're not much further forward now, than we were 12 months ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 16 minutes ago, Sweep said: we shouldn't laugh, but it would be mildly amusing if Johnson tried to bring back basically a warmed up version of the TM deal, and then it got bounced again, by JRM and his cronies knifing him in the back If the proposal scraps the continuation of the tightening rules on tax evasion ERG will vote for it. IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 28 minutes ago, Sweep said: we shouldn't laugh, but it would be mildly amusing if Johnson tried to bring back basically a warmed up version of the TM deal, and then it got bounced again, by JRM and his cronies knifing him in the back JRM is massively pro-Boris Steve Baker is the litmus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salford Trotter Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 https://twitter.com/djmgaffneyw4/status/1172443855917965320?s=19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon boy Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 2 hours ago, Sweep said: I suppose the analogy that could be used, regarding using the threat of "No Deal" as a bargaining chip, is something similar to..."Listen EU, we've got a gun here, and we're holding it to our head, if you don't give us what we want, then we're going to blow our brains out, and you might get a bit splattered" I stole that off James O'Brien 😏 And he’s a right knob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 7 minutes ago, Moon boy said: And he’s a right knob 100% correct, never sees it from a UK point of view, the guns also at the head of the EU but the shit house prefers to pedal anti UK and pro EU bullshit. Is he a Scottish or Irish nationalist by any chance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon boy Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Surely Boris will not be trying to bring back TM’s WA deal minus the backstop If he gets the Border in the Irish Sea a simple FTA, which has already been offered 18 months ago, Canada +++, would get him out of the hole When Parliament returns, with help of honest John Bercow, if the Anarchists get control Swinson could rescind A50 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted September 13, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted September 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, Moon boy said: Surely Boris will not be trying to bring back TM’s WA deal minus the backstop If he gets the Border in the Irish Sea a simple FTA, which has already been offered 18 months ago, Canada +++, would get him out of the hole When Parliament returns, with help of honest John Bercow, if the Anarchists get control Swinson could rescind A50 No We will leave the EU. 100% The deals that follow will be largely similar to the ones we already have. Brexiteers will claim success, remainers will claim their wrestling has kept us in pretty much the same situation and so a success for them, and this thread will hit 2000 pages of utter fucking drivel by next summer. No-one is a winner here. No-one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salford Trotter Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 7 minutes ago, Spider said: No We will leave the EU. 100% The deals that follow will be largely similar to the ones we already have. Brexiteers will claim success, remainers will claim their wrestling has kept us in pretty much the same situation and so a success for them, and this thread will hit 2000 pages of utter fucking drivel by next summer. No-one is a winner here. No-one. The ERG will be fuming if this is the 'deal' that Johnson brings back. Brexit-lite I suppose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Salford Trotter said: Yet another UK concession..... if it happens. That should make you happy. Edited September 13, 2019 by Mounts Kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 27 minutes ago, Spider said: No-one is a winner here. No-one. In time, many of us will be winners, in many different aspects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deane koontz Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 Did he just deny he made the "investigation of historic child abuse cases is spaffing money up the wall" comment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deane koontz Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 He's a waffling mess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salford Trotter Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 23 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: That should make you happy. We didn't vote for No Deal so I will be thankful when we get a deal and get on with the really difficult bit as I just want this chaotic shambles all over asap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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