Escobarp Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Just finished it actually. Your point is caller? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted October 17, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted October 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, Escobarp said: Just finished it actually. Your point is caller? My point is, the article doesn't say what you thought it did. And you've just confirmed that you posted it before you'd even read it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Cheese said: My point is, the article doesn't say what you thought it did. And you've just confirmed that you posted it before you'd even read it. Why couldn’t I post it before I had read it all? Who the fuck are you the police you utter fuckpuppet! and I’ve read it and Doesn’t state we need hard borders under wto and trust me the day I require guidance and educating by somebody like you is the moment I call it a day and the games a bogey pal. Edited October 17, 2019 by Escobarp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted October 17, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted October 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, Escobarp said: Why couldn’t I post it before I had read it all? Who the fuck are you the police you utter fuckpuppet! and I’ve read it and Doesn’t state we need hard borders under wto Yes, I am the police. You clearly haven't understood what the article says. Never mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Just now, Cheese said: Yes, I am the police. You clearly haven't understood what the article says. Never mind. I understand it. And that you’re a cock. As you were Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted October 17, 2019 Members Share Posted October 17, 2019 (edited) The last time they voted to see if there could be a second referendum how many votes did it lose by? 12? Edited October 17, 2019 by Rudy’s Message Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_spencer Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 I always thought that all our borders have to be same to the same rules under WTO. So we wouldn't need a hard border in Ireland if the same rules were applied at Dover etc. It have we received clarification that this isn't the case? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Just now, frank_spencer said: I always thought that all our borders have to be same to the same rules under WTO. So we wouldn't need a hard border in Ireland if the same rules were applied at Dover etc. It have we received clarification that this isn't the case? Ask smegma he’s the font of all knowledge it would appear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 48 minutes ago, Casino said: You need to look harder for your information Anyway, WTO Does it need a hard border or not I suspect it does? My understanding is anything coming into Belfast destined for Ireland will clear Irish customs in Belfast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted October 17, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted October 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: My understanding is anything coming into Belfast destined for Ireland will clear Irish customs in Belfast. Foolproof Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Spider said: Foolproof Even with a hard border you’d still get folk smuggling goods across the border. I’m not sure what benefit there would be if there is a tariff free trade deal. Edited October 17, 2019 by Mounts Kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted October 17, 2019 Moderators Share Posted October 17, 2019 As cheese rightly points out, that article suggests that in practice, us going WTO would likely lead to a complaint leading to border controls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted October 17, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted October 17, 2019 10 minutes ago, Escobarp said: Ask smegma he’s the font of all knowledge it would appear I think Cheese, to be fair, is suggesting that 164 countries are entitled to make a complaint under WTO rules which may force a border to go up. lets pick a country entirely at random. Erm, Argentina. Now, they don’t have any axe to grind with us that I know of, but it would only take them to moan and the can of worms is all over the shop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted October 17, 2019 Moderators Share Posted October 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Even with a hard border you’d still get folk smuggling goods across the border. I’m not sure what benefit there would be if there is a tariff free trade deal. I'm asking what happens if no deal as some folk on here seem to think it would be fantastic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Just now, Casino said: As cheese rightly points out, that article suggests that in practice, us going WTO would likely lead to a complaint leading to border controls Border controls doesn’t equal hard border though does it? And that article doesn’t clearly state anything other than the wto won’t insist on hard borders and says could be complaints not likely. All depends on what trade agreements we have with other countries. Far too many ifs and buts for anyone even the experts to state what is going to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted October 17, 2019 Moderators Share Posted October 17, 2019 Ill not repeat spiders comments above He's bang on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonk Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 DUP - The Answer is no, nay, never. What's the question? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, Casino said: I'm asking what happens if no deal as some folk on here seem to think it would be fantastic There's only Bolty thinks no deal would be good isn't there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Chris Green voting for the deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, Spider said: I think Cheese, to be fair, is suggesting that 164 countries are entitled to make a complaint under WTO rules which may force a border to go up. lets pick a country entirely at random. Erm, Argentina. Now, they don’t have any axe to grind with us that I know of, but it would only take them to moan and the can of worms is all over the shop. We will have a border. By definition the two countries will have a border. It’s the controls on that border and the checks that are enforced that would lead potentially in certain situations to a hard border. I don’t envisage is requiring a hard border as I believe the customs checks that will be undertaken will be sufficient. I may be wrong but as mounts points out correctly. Hard border or not there will be smuggling. It’s a fact it’s going to happen. It happens now into the EU and it will never cease Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted October 17, 2019 Moderators Share Posted October 17, 2019 Just now, boltondiver said: Chris Green voting for the deal Well there's a surprise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted October 17, 2019 Moderators Share Posted October 17, 2019 Just now, Escobarp said: We will have a border. By definition the two countries will have a border. It’s the controls on that border and the checks that are enforced that would lead potentially in certain situations to a hard border. I don’t envisage is requiring a hard border as I believe the customs checks that will be undertaken will be sufficient. I may be wrong but as mounts points out correctly. Hard border or not there will be smuggling. It’s a fact it’s going to happen. It happens now into the EU and it will never cease What does a hard border mean, in your world Maybe we have different definitions For me, anything that stops free movement is a hard border Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Casino said: What does a hard border mean, in your world Maybe we have different definitions For me, anything that stops free movement is a hard border Whatever the definition of hard border is your definition is what matters because checks on people and/or goods at or near the border are contrary to the GFA. Its mind numbing how this has been discussed for three years yet some cannot accept a plain and simple fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Site Supporter Cheese Posted October 17, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted October 17, 2019 8 minutes ago, Escobarp said: Border controls doesn’t equal hard border though does it? And we're back to those invisible robot border controls that we keep hearing about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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