Moderators Casino Posted October 19, 2019 Moderators Share Posted October 19, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Escobarp said: I respect people’s desire to remain. Please don’t confuse that with disrespect. But I also feel strongly that before anything we must deliver on the outcome of the referendum. Then we can move forward and who knows maybe end up back in the eu at a later date. We don’t know. But if this isn’t delivered (which it will be) it would signal the end of democracy in our political system. If we had an open invitation to get back in on today's tems in 5 years, I'd vote leave myself Problem is, when we realise it's not the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, we are getting offered a shitty stick way back in Edited October 19, 2019 by Casino Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 1 minute ago, birch-chorley said: What government? We don’t have one as far as I can see Come on now. Of course we do. The issue lies in our parliamentary system and those that are trying to derail democracy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted October 19, 2019 Moderators Share Posted October 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Your not getting one and rightly so because any impact assessment is not worth the paper it’s written on. We ain't getting one cos they all say you've voted for the biggest crock of shit going Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 Just now, Casino said: If we had an open invitation to get back in on today's tems in 5 years, I'd vote remain myself Problem is, when we realise it's not the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, we are getting offered a shitty stick way back in Again nobody knows what we would get offered. The eu really do want to trade with us and would welcome us back should it come to that. But let’s get out deliver what the majority voted for and see what’s what. Simplistic I know but it’s how I see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 Just now, Casino said: We ain't getting one cos they all say you've voted for the biggest crock of shit going Can I have an impact assessment on staying in the crock of shit that the EU is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrelli Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, Escobarp said: I respect people’s desire to remain. Please don’t confuse that with disrespect. But I also feel strongly that before anything we must deliver on the outcome of the referendum. Then we can move forward and who knows maybe end up back in the eu at a later date. We don’t know. But if this isn’t delivered (which it will be) it would signal the end of democracy in our political system. I don't agree because the original vote was based on lies and no resemblance to reality. That is why this process has been so divisive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted October 19, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted October 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Your not getting one and rightly so because any impact assessment is not worth the paper it’s written on. What the fuck? Most companies are under strict rules that say a risk assessment must be carried out for anything from picking a pen up to blowing a building to smithereens. But you think changing the way an entire country runs itself shouldn’t bother? Fucking. Wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted October 19, 2019 Moderators Share Posted October 19, 2019 (edited) I dunno I presume one of your heros has done one Odd though they aren't screaming it from the rooftops don't you think Edited October 19, 2019 by Casino Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Farrelli said: I don't agree because the original vote was based on lies and no resemblance to reality. That is why this process has been so divisive. Would you change your vote? No would I? No. Were we all lied to? Yeah. and you know the biggest irony in this? I couldn’t change my vote now as a matter of principle. And if I’m honest if brexit stopped tomorrow financially I would be better off within the next 12 months that’s a fact. But I simply cannot for anything accept the actions of those trying to derail this and then pass it off as doing it for the people. It’s laughable. So it’s a no from me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrelli Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Can I have an impact assessment on staying in the crock of shit that the EU is? Scotland and NI both want to stay in the EU rather than stay in the UK. Speaks volumes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted October 19, 2019 Moderators Share Posted October 19, 2019 Just now, Escobarp said: Would you change your vote? No would I? No. Were we all lied to? Yeah. and you know the biggest irony in this? I couldn’t change my vote now as a matter of principle. And if I’m honest if brexit stopped tomorrow financially I would be better off within the next 12 months that’s a fact. But I simply cannot for anything accept the actions of those trying to derail this and then pass it off as doing it for the people. It’s laughable. So it’s a no from me If democracy, whatever that means, is more important than your bank balance, you've too much money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrelli Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 Just now, Escobarp said: Would you change your vote? No would I? No. Were we all lied to? Yeah. and you know the biggest irony in this? I couldn’t change my vote now as a matter of principle. And if I’m honest if brexit stopped tomorrow financially I would be better off within the next 12 months that’s a fact. But I simply cannot for anything accept the actions of those trying to derail this and then pass it off as doing it for the people. It’s laughable. So it’s a no from me What about 18/19 year olds who could not vote last time? They are entitled to have a say IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Spider said: What the fuck? Most companies are under strict rules that say a risk assessment must be carried out for anything from picking a pen up to blowing a building to smithereens. But you think changing the way an entire country runs itself shouldn’t bother? Fucking. Wow. If you have an impact assessment for leaving I want one for remaining, taking into account possible future costs and implications of PIGS needing bailing out Future free movement impact assessment should Turkey open the door to Syrians, Future cost of the EU army, and cost of future new members who can’t pay their way, future qualitative easing plans etc. Edited October 19, 2019 by Mounts Kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted October 19, 2019 Moderators Share Posted October 19, 2019 Just now, Farrelli said: What about 18/19 year olds who could not vote last time? They are entitled to have a say IMO. And the million? Poles who pay uk tax on a weekly basis Scandal they didn't get a vote while Wayne and waynetta did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, Farrelli said: Scotland and NI both want to stay in the EU rather than stay in the UK. Speaks volumes. Let them stay. Save us a fortune. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted October 19, 2019 Moderators Share Posted October 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Mounts Kipper said: If you have an impact assessment for leaving I want one for remaining, taking into account possible future costs and implications of PIGS needing bailing out Future free movement impact assessment should Turkey open the door to Syrians, Future cost of the EU army, and cost of future new members who can’t pay there way, future qualitative easing plans etc. Why do you think baker and mogg haven't screamed the results from the rooftops I think we both know why Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted October 19, 2019 Moderators Share Posted October 19, 2019 Just now, Mounts Kipper said: Let them stay. Save us a fortune. All about England Piss poor Traitor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, Farrelli said: What about 18/19 year olds who could not vote last time? They are entitled to have a say IMO. Every time we have an election the electoral demographic changes daily thereafter no? . So it’s not unique to this situation. They will get a chance to vote again in the future in all likelihood. After we’ve left Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted October 19, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted October 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: If you have an impact assessment for leaving I want one for remaining, taking into account possible future costs and implications of PIGS needing bailing out Future free movement impact assessment should Turkey open the door to Syrians, Future cost of the EU army, and cost of future new members who can’t pay there way, future qualitative easing plans etc. Maybe tomorrow I’ll have a proper look, but I’d be very surprised if the EU doesn’t produce some sort of forecasts and plans for its members. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Escobarp Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, Casino said: And the million? Poles who pay uk tax on a weekly basis Scandal they didn't get a vote while Wayne and waynetta did This I agree with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Casino said: All about England Piss poor Traitor Utter rubbish if folk want their own independence then who are we to not give them that right. You don’t keep folk by not allowing them the freedom to decide their own path in the world. A United Kingdom that does not allow that freedom isn’t a Union I want to be part of. Edited October 19, 2019 by Mounts Kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted October 19, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted October 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Let them stay. Save us a fortune. You basically just set fire to the Union Jack thou treacherous swine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 Just now, Spider said: You basically just set fire to the Union Jack thou treacherous swine See above post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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