Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 7, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted January 7, 2020 8 minutes ago, boltondiver said: It was a dig at NiC, who said that anyone who voted for Boris was an an imbecile, or similar. Still waiting for an apology Yes, I got it. Fairly typical, like suggesting he has a gp friend and therefore he knows best and we're all wrong for wanting a more efficient health service. In his usual patronising way. Weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted January 7, 2020 Moderators Share Posted January 7, 2020 I'd say the point he's making is that there's no problem with your wish list but your belief it is within reach is dreamworld I make him right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 30 minutes ago, boltondiver said: It was a dig at NiC, who said that anyone who voted for Boris was an an imbecile, or similar. Still waiting for an apology Dig away sonny jim, it’s not what I said - just brought up some data on who voted. How you take it is down to your sensitive little soul sweetheart 😘 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted January 7, 2020 Author Share Posted January 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, Casino said: I'd say the point he's making is that there's no problem with your wish list but your belief it is within reach is dreamworld I make him right But there shouldn't be a need for it. An agreement is in place with the EU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, Casino said: I'd say the point he's making is that there's no problem with your wish list but your belief it is within reach is dreamworld I make him right Pretty much, it’s the simplification of ‘I’m right because I believe it’ silliness that appears slightly lunkheaded. KW is also a friend of this really lovely bloke, it’s this idea that Drs can just administer care without management, it was never thus and never will be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said: Dig away sonny jim, it’s not what I said - just brought up some data on who voted. How you take it is down to your sensitive little soul sweetheart 😘 True, you said Election 2019 Not in Crawley replied to Smiffs's topic in Behind The Stands If you vote for that blithering human bloon and his cabinet, then yes I’d suggest you need to give your head a wobble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted January 7, 2020 Moderators Share Posted January 7, 2020 The lack of GPS is absolutely killing the system They just aren't interested in doing a Friday afternoon surgery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Yup, have you wobbled it enough yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 9 minutes ago, Casino said: The lack of GPS is absolutely killing the system They just aren't interested in doing a Friday afternoon surgery I’d say there is a thankless task in it, also being a good GP is hard, it’s not an easy option. The hours and on call are long, but you also do get pretty well remunerated, as you should do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted January 7, 2020 Author Share Posted January 7, 2020 Remember all those job losses in the city ? I see record figures were released yesterday..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted January 7, 2020 Author Share Posted January 7, 2020 https://mobile.twitter.com/AllianceBE/status/1214506308671561728?s=09 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jol_BWFC Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Did you read the article or just the headline? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted January 7, 2020 Author Share Posted January 7, 2020 7 minutes ago, Jol_BWFC said: Did you read the article or just the headline? I read the entire article thank you. Doesn't deflect from the headline though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jol_BWFC Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 (edited) 24 minutes ago, miamiwhite said: I read the entire article thank you. Doesn't deflect from the headline though. Ah yes, the best way to summarise newspaper articles - quote the headline and ignore the substance. The headline is factually correct, but doesn’t reflect what else is in the article. And surprise surprise, you didn’t refer to the rest of it in your post. Would you have posted the link if the headline was any of the following (which are also taken from the body of the article)? ”City of London fears over very flimsy trade deal”. ”2019 tax receipts show only a slight increase, reflecting a challenging year for the financial sector”. ”Tax receipts in the City show notable slowdown in growth compared to 2017-2018”. ”Corporation tax from financial services firms falls 9.5%, falling below levels seen in 2008.” ”Worry for financial services firms as profitability falls amidst challenging conditions caused by global trade tensions, political uncertainty and low interest rates.” ”Tax figures show UK economy is overly hooked on the finance sector and needs to diversify.” ”City of London to face another challenging year as EU-facing business set to fall.” Edited January 7, 2020 by Jol_BWFC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted January 7, 2020 Author Share Posted January 7, 2020 25 minutes ago, Jol_BWFC said: Ah yes, the best way to summarise newspaper articles - quote the headline and ignore the substance. The headline is factually correct, but doesn’t reflect what else is in the article. And surprise surprise, you didn’t refer to the rest of it in your post. Would you have posted the link if the headline was any of the following (which are also taken from the body of the article)? ”City of London fears over very flimsy trade deal”. ”2019 tax receipts show only a slight increase, reflecting a challenging year for the financial sector”. ”Tax receipts in the City show notable slowdown in growth compared to 2017-2018”. ”Corporation tax from financial services firms falls 9.5%, falling below levels seen in 2008.” ”Worry for financial services firms as profitability falls amidst challenging conditions caused by global trade tensions, political uncertainty and low interest rates.” ”Tax figures show UK economy is overly hooked on the finance sector and needs to diversify.” ”City of London to face another challenging year as EU-facing business set to fall.” Course I wouldn't 😂😂😂 Like you say, the headline is factually correct 😊 Just like you won't admit there's not been 500k job losses the day after we left Brexit. I see the fears in the city yarn again.....hmmm, where have I heard that before ? Global trade tensions......not Brexit is it, it is global. Thank you and goodnight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 We haven’t left yet Hopefully we get a deal that allows free trade for financial services so they don’t need to move resources into Europe Hopefully the deal involves some form of free movement of people to live and work (in both directions), re branded by Boris of course Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jol_BWFC Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 8 hours ago, miamiwhite said: Course I wouldn't 😂😂😂 Like you say, the headline is factually correct 😊 Just like you won't admit there's not been 500k job losses the day after we left Brexit. I see the fears in the city yarn again.....hmmm, where have I heard that before ? Global trade tensions......not Brexit is it, it is global. Thank you and goodnight Exactly. No wonder most people tend not to read your links. You’re trying to pass off the article as a positive one for your cause, by ignoring the content. You’re as bad as the person on Twitter who posted it (or more likely you were naive enough to have seen the twitter post and were hoodwinked into believing the spin - and then re-posting it). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted January 8, 2020 Author Share Posted January 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Jol_BWFC said: Exactly. No wonder most people tend not to read your links. You’re trying to pass off the article as a positive one for your cause, by ignoring the content. You’re as bad as the person on Twitter who posted it (or more likely you were naive enough to have seen the twitter post and were hoodwinked into believing the spin - and then re-posting it). Lighten up you wet fart 😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 14 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: It was a bit of a piss take. I don't buy the argument that a system with more folk can't be managed and would have prohibitive costs. In numerical terms, were not a big nation, and plenty of others manage it. As Kent points out however, is the vast amount wasted previously, on a variety of initiatives. Let medical folk be just that, and not burden them with with onerous administration. At the same time we can't be throwing our arms in the air and saying we can't do x,y or z. We need to toughen up and modernise. Starting by actually asking for money back, that has already been agreed would be a start. Its not the number of people treated - its the complexity of the system - the IT systems in place and the requirements of any system that replaces them. There isn't "one system" there are a multitude at different levels. When Labour tried to introduce standardised systems in their hugely ambitious NPfIT - it failed - and was horrendously expensive. It wasn't because there was incompetence in government or anything like that - it was because private contractors took on development of systems that needed to replace functionality of a whole range of existing systems - and the scope was impossible - and the developers failed - and then nobody wanted to touch it. You could try and implement a totally separate independent system regarding cost recovery only - but you'd still need it to interface in some way with an existing system to identify and link NHS numbers. patient ID's etc...(and even then there isn't always consistency). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 See the snp have been put in their place today as well by boris. 👍🏼 Another set of kranks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Escobarp said: See the snp have been put in their place today as well by boris. 👍🏼 Another set of kranks What’s he said? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: What’s he said? https://mobile.twitter.com/MrMasonMills/status/1214890303825620992 the noise from the tory MPs was music to my ears. Hostile atmosphere just like a packed burnden back in the day. Intimidating and no suffering fools gladly. 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧 Edited January 8, 2020 by Escobarp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 8 hours ago, bwfcfan5 said: Its not the number of people treated - its the complexity of the system - the IT systems in place and the requirements of any system that replaces them. There isn't "one system" there are a multitude at different levels. When Labour tried to introduce standardised systems in their hugely ambitious NPfIT - it failed - and was horrendously expensive. It wasn't because there was incompetence in government or anything like that - it was because private contractors took on development of systems that needed to replace functionality of a whole range of existing systems - and the scope was impossible - and the developers failed - and then nobody wanted to touch it. You could try and implement a totally separate independent system regarding cost recovery only - but you'd still need it to interface in some way with an existing system to identify and link NHS numbers. patient ID's etc...(and even then there isn't always consistency). Went to Birmingham Royal ortho hospital today, had machines on the reception that checked who you were and the system notified you when your consultant was ready to see you, must say the hospital was immaculate, the service excellent the staff friendly, professional and very efficient, the consultant was superb and agreed to do the surgery I specifically requested, so had x ray, pre op and was on my way home in 4 hours, operation scheduled for May. The operations 13k if went private with same surgeon, fantastic service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulhanley Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, Escobarp said: https://mobile.twitter.com/MrMasonMills/status/1214890303825620992 the noise from the tory MPs was music to my ears. Hostile atmosphere just like a packed burnden back in the day. Intimidating and no suffering fools gladly. 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧 Magic moments. Pick the bones out of those scenes Grieve, Swinson, Soubry and Bercow. You've had your arses kicked just like you deserve. As for the SNP - clearly generations in Scotland only last five or six years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 7 minutes ago, Escobarp said: https://mobile.twitter.com/MrMasonMills/status/1214890303825620992 the noise from the tory MPs was music to my ears. Hostile atmosphere just like a packed burnden back in the day. Intimidating and no suffering fools gladly. 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧 While it’s wonderful to see the snp spitting blood, think we should give them a referendum, preferably after Brexit is sorted and we’re all doing very nicely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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