Site Supporter Spider Posted September 17, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted September 17, 2020 Cheese is known as Red October to his military friends ITK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, Spider said: Cheese is known as Red October to his military friends ITK He would last long in the army Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck Egg Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 (edited) Our nuclear deterrent is only there because of our old colonial, post WWII, cold war history. We'll never be allowed to use it without the say so of the US anyway. We'd be far better off doing what the rest of Western Europe does (bar France) & sacking it off altogether. Spend the umpteen squillion it's going to take to replace Trident, on renewable energy sources instead. Edited September 17, 2020 by Duck Egg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiggyStardust Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 42 minutes ago, Spider said: Cheese is known as Red October to his military friends ITK Quote Red October, come in Red October. This is for your ears only. There will be no military leave at Brexit day. Repeat, no military leave. This is not a drill. Over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted September 17, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted September 17, 2020 45 minutes ago, Duck Egg said: Our nuclear deterrent is only there because of our old colonial, post WWII, cold war history. We'll never be allowed to use it without the say so of the US anyway. We'd be far better off doing what the rest of Western Europe does (bar France) & sacking it off altogether. Spend the umpteen squillion it's going to take to replace Trident, on renewable energy sources instead. Over the years, I've toyed with this idea. Would anyone actually use it? At one point I was probably just about in the get rid camp. Now I reckon I'm back the other way. Just. As I said above, Putin is a cunt, but arguably North Korea and Iran are two more dangerous places with regard to nuclear weapons. Both seem determined to get there and have loons at the helm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted September 17, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted September 17, 2020 10 hours ago, Cheese said: That's not how Congress works, but you already know that. Donald isn't a "Supreme Leader". Er, better not let Trump hear you say that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nowack Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 One of the benefits of Brexit is we can climb down from this ridiculous old super power delusion and happily nestle into world power medioctrity. Much rather a high standard of living Scandinavian type country than constantly trying to remain relevent as a world power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayjayoghani Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Duck Egg said: We'd be far better off doing what the rest of Western Europe does (bar France) & sacking it off altogether. Spend the umpteen squillion it's going to take to replace Trident, on renewable energy sources instead. The Rule Britannia twats would love that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted September 17, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted September 17, 2020 16 minutes ago, Nowack said: One of the benefits of Brexit is we can climb down from this ridiculous old super power delusion and happily nestle into world power medioctrity. Much rather a high standard of living Scandinavian type country than constantly trying to remain relevent as a world power. High standard of living equates to high cost of living. On a trip to Iceland a few years ago I was talking to a guy behind the bar. He was on minimum wage of £17.50/hour. That’s probably double ours. The cost of living is excessive because their government sees visiting tourists as a cash cow. Charge high, get the visitor money in and share that out as tax exemptions for indigenous Icelandic folk. UK is probably a more accessible tourist destination than Iceland. Do we have visitor tax the way just about every country has? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrelli Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 51 minutes ago, MickyD said: High standard of living equates to high cost of living. On a trip to Iceland a few years ago I was talking to a guy behind the bar. He was on minimum wage of £17.50/hour. That’s probably double ours. The cost of living is excessive because their government sees visiting tourists as a cash cow. Charge high, get the visitor money in and share that out as tax exemptions for indigenous Icelandic folk. UK is probably a more accessible tourist destination than Iceland. Do we have visitor tax the way just about every country has? I think being a sub polar island in the middle of nowhere is the biggest driver for the cost of living in Iceland. They have to import everything apart from energy and fish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted September 17, 2020 Members Share Posted September 17, 2020 On 16/09/2020 at 17:30, Sweep said: I think most want this over and done with - sadly, it's not proving to be as easy as it was implied. At some point, it looks like we're in for a bit of pain, it won't be seamless. A major issue here, and I know you've got Boris down as a Winston Churchill type character (although to be fair, you did also say May was Thatcher like) but he really doesn't inspire confidence. Even Mounts has said he'd like to see Boris gone after we finally get Brexit done.....and this will happen, as the Tory party will have to get rid of him, as he seems to be utterly inept. I've no doubt the UK will make a success of things moving forward, and our leaving will force reform in the EU, which is a good thing, it'd just be nice it things were straight forward. Even a blind man can see that to sign a deal and claim it to be "oven ready" and then to row back on that within 9 months isn't ideal. Unless we extend the transition period, then we've only got just over 100 days until we potentially enter the world of WTO, which people on both sides agree we don't really want. I know that you've said in the past that you would have no problem with it, but that's fine for you to say when you're sat on the other side of the world. Those of us who live and work here are a little concerned, as we can see a shitstorm on the horizon, that we'll have to deal with for the next 5 or 10 years I am a Bolton Wanderers supporter. Supreme optimism is in my DNA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted September 17, 2020 Members Share Posted September 17, 2020 16 hours ago, MickyD said: I say in a bit. It’s only 01.32 Anyone got his mobile number? 🤣 I'm making notes. You have been warned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted September 17, 2020 Members Share Posted September 17, 2020 15 hours ago, Sweep said: I'd forgotten about the Pantherellas Thank you sir. I do not wear mere socks. Pantherellas. Leave phillistines like that miserable cunt to these https://www.aldi.co.uk/crane-waterproof-breathable-socks/p/016875296917500 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted September 17, 2020 Members Share Posted September 17, 2020 14 hours ago, Spider said: Shit scooters suggests the existence of good ones. Hmmm No point engaging with you on this subject mate. You wouldn't be capable of understanding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted September 17, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted September 17, 2020 9 minutes ago, Farrelli said: I think being a sub polar island in the middle of nowhere is the biggest driver for the cost of living in Iceland. They have to import everything apart from energy and fish. They’re surprisingly self sufficient. Market gardening is done on a massive scale with giant greenhouses heated by the free geothermal energy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 Every topic on here always ends up in Bolty's sock drawer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 8 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said: Every topic on here always ends up in Bolty's sock drawer. Along with his ‘specialist’ magazine collection I’d wager Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 34 minutes ago, bolty58 said: Thank you sir. I do not wear mere socks. Pantherellas. Leave phillistines like that miserable cunt to these https://www.aldi.co.uk/crane-waterproof-breathable-socks/p/016875296917500 Waterproof socks? I own shoes you fucking weirdo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 13 hours ago, Cheese said: Yeah. We should just build a nuclear missile silo in Newcastle. I'm not suggesting that. But I just can't believe that there are no other conceivable options to base Trident other than the Clyde. They might not be optimal - but that's what happens if you break up a union for no good reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted September 17, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted September 17, 2020 14 hours ago, kent_white said: The missiles do 15,000 miles an hour. And you can launch them from wherever you want can't you? Could do with a couple at centre half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 1 hour ago, kent_white said: I'm not suggesting that. But I just can't believe that there are no other conceivable options to base Trident other than the Clyde. They might not be optimal - but that's what happens if you break up a union for no good reason. The reason of the scots leaving the union would in their eyes be for very good reason mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 20 minutes ago, Escobarp said: The reason of the scots leaving the union would in their eyes be for very good reason mate. Not for me it wouldn't. If Brexit ends up leading to the breakup of the UK then that would be a massive betrayal in my eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted September 17, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted September 17, 2020 We may mock them, but England without Scotland and Wales on the world stage is just unthinkable. Well, maybe not Wales, but you get my drift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted September 17, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted September 17, 2020 28 minutes ago, kent_white said: Not for me it wouldn't. If Brexit ends up leading to the breakup of the UK then that would be a massive betrayal in my eyes. No UK government is going to push for it- would be political suicide. However plenty of Scots wanted out well before brexit. SNP will continue to fight for it, and if at some point they do vote out, then that's their decision. Be interesting to see what a uk wide referendum offering scotland independence would result in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 Just now, Tonge moor green jacket said: No UK government is going to push for it- would be political suicide. However plenty of Scots wanted out well before brexit. SNP will continue to fight for it, and if at some point they do vote out, then that's their decision. Be interesting to see what a uk wide referendum offering scotland independence would result in. Leaving the EU has made it an inevitability as far as I'm concerned. It's just a matter of time now. And when it happens - we'll be weaker as a result. I've said this since we'll before Brexit. It was one of my reasons for voting remain. I value the UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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