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31 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

He’s a first class CUNT! 

I enjoyed listening to sir Nicholas Soames, David Davies' pragmatism and experience was a reasonable listen, though again, I'm unsure just how much appetite there is for more negotiation.

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2 hours ago, birch-chorley said:

Say what you want about May’s deal, but it would get through theEU 27 

what makes you think a cross party team would come back with something vastly different? 

The fact you have negotiated a deal does not make it suitable nor good.

There is clearly a cross-party majority in parliament for something that looks like Norway or Norway plus, or whatever. The EU would negotiate on those lines. Is it honoring the referendum? I don't know but currently you've a deal that unless something dramatic changes won't pass and a significant risk of a huge delay or falling off the cliff edge.

Cut out the Labour front bench get some of their sensible backbenchers instead, some sensible Tory backbenchers, the Lib Dems, SNP and DUP involved and try and find a solution that can be signed up to by parliament. 

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The biggest moaners aren't the remain camp. It's the Brexiteers. Look, you got what you wanted. It's guaranteed we'll be leaving the EU next year. Well done. I think getting 52%/48% split in the exit deal is only fair.

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37 minutes ago, Underpants said:

The biggest moaners aren't the remain camp. It's the Brexiteers. Look, you got what you wanted. It's guaranteed we'll be leaving the EU next year. Well done. I think getting 52%/48% split in the exit deal is only fair.

In  the moaning stakes I think we were definitely on the losing side. 

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7 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

In  the moaning stakes I think we were definitely on the losing side. 

Not yet!

and the proportion ain’t 52-48

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The biggest problem has been that after the vote Cameron shit his self and ran away, Boris, a Leaver, looked like he could get the job but he was stabbed in the back by Gove, the outcome of that was May, a Remainer, filled the void and became Prime Minister

At this point the Conservative party had a reasonable majority, if the PM had been a true Brexiteer and had the balls to push through a Canada+++ style free trade agreement or even aWTO/no deal Brexit most of the uncertainty would be over by now.

I’m not saying everything would be rosy but if a Brexit PM had owned Brexit and gone for their version backed up by a Brexit supporting Chancellor they would have had the ability to get through this uncertain period.

The problem now is that every body is putting their two penneth in without taking the ultimate responsibility for how it ends

If you voted Remain my guess is you won’t agree with my analysis 

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10 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

In  the moaning stakes I think we were definitely on the losing side. 

Catching up quickly though.

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3 minutes ago, Moon boy said:

The biggest problem has been that after the vote Cameron shit his self and ran away, Boris, a Leaver, looked like he could get the job but he was stabbed in the back by Gove, the outcome of that was May, a Remainer, filled the void and became Prime Minister

At this point the Conservative party had a reasonable majority, if the PM had been a true Brexiteer and had the balls to push through a Canada+++ style free trade agreement or even aWTO/no deal Brexit most of the uncertainty would be over by now.

I’m not saying everything would be rosy but if a Brexit PM had owned Brexit and gone for their version backed up by a Brexit supporting Chancellor they would have had the ability to get through this uncertain period.

The problem now is that every body is putting their two penneth in without taking the ultimate responsibility for how it ends

If you voted Remain my guess is you won’t agree with my analysis 

Boris was utterly ddisorganised in arranging his "campaign", which caused Gove to withdraw his support.

He is still utterly disorganised, hence today he was required to make a "full and unreserved apology" to the HoC for neglecting to declare £52k of his income, missing deadlines repeatedly.

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1 minute ago, MalcolmW said:

Boris was utterly ddisorganised in arranging his "campaign", which caused Gove to withdraw his support.

He is still utterly disorganised, hence today he was required to make a "full and unreserved apology" to the HoC for neglecting to declare £52k of his income, missing deadlines repeatedly.

Safe to say the Foreign Office staff were not unhappy when he left, the guy is a liability

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Yes Boris is an odd one but ‘A Leader’ needed to own Brexit and see it through

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6 minutes ago, Moon boy said:

Yes Boris is an odd one but ‘A Leader’ needed to own Brexit and see it through

Who? 

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2 minutes ago, Moon boy said:

Boris, Leadsom, Gove, Davis is that enough?

HAHAHAHHA yes, that's enough :D

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10 minutes ago, Moon boy said:

Why you laugh?

Why me laugh? Because me have brain.

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2 hours ago, Moon boy said:

Boris, Leadsom, Gove, Davis is that enough?

What a throng of cunts that is.

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4 minutes ago, Traf said:

What a throng of cunts that is.

It's literally the best they've got.

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2 hours ago, Moon boy said:

Boris, Leadsom, Gove, Davis is that enough?

Thankfully, folk are finally seeing through these shysters.

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Give it a rest M. The fucking imbeciles on the benches opposite are an embarrassment.

I'd be surprised if they were elected and you'll more likely end up with some sort of utter mess minority forged with parties with agenda's like Scottish independence.

Still, if the Marxist led Labour Party did get in, you'd get what you wished for. Welcome to 1973.

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6 hours ago, Traf said:

What a throng of cunts that is.

Give us 4 possibles from Labour

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5 hours ago, bolty58 said:

Still, if the Marxist led Labour Party did get in, you'd get what you wished for. Welcome to 1973.

But you keep saying everything was fantastic in 1973, until we ruined everything by joining the EU? 

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9 hours ago, Moon boy said:

Yes Boris is an odd one but ‘A Leader’ needed to own Brexit and see it through

How would he have got a better deal with the EU?

theyd have laughed him out of the room

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13 minutes ago, gonzo said:

How would he have got a better deal with the EU?

theyd have laughed him out of the room

Correct.

Beneath his clownlike exterior is a fucking clown 

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Dominic Raab is the tories only realistic alternative as far as I can see.

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