MalcolmW Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 7 hours ago, athywhite1958 said: What was he before then? a drug dealer Head of Deutsche Bank's Asian trading desk (make of that what you will). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted December 12, 2018 Author Share Posted December 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Sweep said: Out of interest, why does Khan bother you so much? You don't live in London do you? He’s a charlatan. Simple as that. And no, I do not live in London.....I prefer to live somewhere much safer,thank you very much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted December 12, 2018 Author Share Posted December 12, 2018 6 minutes ago, Spider said: I'm led to believe that a UK delegation is currently in Tokyo offering them a large hamper of British delicacies, including pasties, red post boxes, M&S school uniforms and Beatrix Potter books. The workforces of Swindon and Sunderland will be delighted about this. Here's the deal in brief... The agreement will, in particular: eliminate duties on many cheeses such as Gouda and Cheddar (which currently are taxed at nearly 30%) as well as on wine exports (currently at 15% on average); allow the EU to substantially increase its beef exports, and open additional opportunities for export of pork products; ensure the protection in Japan of more than 200 Geographical Indications (GIs), high-quality European traditional food specialities, and the protection of a selection of Japanese GIs in the EU; remove tariffs on industrial products in sectors where the EU is very competitive, such as cosmetics, chemicals, textiles and clothing; commit Japan to international car standards, with the result that EU exports of cars to Japan is made significantly easier; open services markets, in particular for financial services, e-commerce, telecommunications and transport; guarantee EU companies access to the large procurement markets of 54 large Japanese cities; remove obstacles to procurement in the economically important railway sector. A few on here would love to eliminate Cheese. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 1 minute ago, miamiwhite said: He’s a charlatan. Simple as that. Fair enough, it'll be interesting to see if he keeps his job next time around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted December 12, 2018 Author Share Posted December 12, 2018 9 minutes ago, Sweep said: Fair enough, it'll be interesting to see if he keeps his job next time around More chance of finding Elvia alive. I’ve not checked his popularity rating lately......Khan’s that is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 44 minutes ago, miamiwhite said: A few on here would love to eliminate Cheese. He can be a bit of a dick, but he’s okish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolton va va Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 2 hours ago, tyldesley_white said: they should if they stand by there convictions and therefore start a new party, but I believe they will just crawl back under a rock and carry on throwing shit The Supporters Trust of politics ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyldesley_white Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 14 minutes ago, bolton va va said: The Supporters Trust of politics ?? very good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalcolmW Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 When Corbyn became Labour's leader most of the party's MPs were appalled by his 'unelectability'. When the GE came last year they expected to be hammered but almost won. In fact it was better than winning at such a difficult time. The MPs who withdrew from his front bench team, plus those who refused or were never considered, now stand almost united, with 4 rebels and a slightly larger number of waverers. There is no realistic chance of more defections to vote for May's deal than there are Conservative opponents in the ERG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 12 minutes ago, MalcolmW said: When Corbyn became Labour's leader most of the party's MPs were appalled by his 'unelectability'. When the GE came last year they expected to be hammered but almost won. In fact it was better than winning at such a difficult time. The MPs who withdrew from his front bench team, plus those who refused or were never considered, now stand almost united, with 4 rebels and a slightly larger number of waverers. There is no realistic chance of more defections to vote for May's deal than there are Conservative opponents in the ERG. There are about 20 odd Labour MPs who might rebel and support it, is my guess. About right? how many of the ERG after their defeat tonight might fall in line behind her? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 13 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said: There are about 20 odd Labour MPs who might rebel and support it, is my guess. About right? how many of the ERG after their defeat tonight might fall in line behind her? Perhaps they just want to honour the result of the referendum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalcolmW Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 17 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said: There are about 20 odd Labour MPs who might rebel and support it, is my guess. About right? how many of the ERG after their defeat tonight might fall in line behind her? I'd halve your estimate for Labour, but I hope you're right! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_spencer Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 5 minutes ago, boltondiver said: Perhaps they just want to honour the result of the referendum But not the election of her place as leader of the Conservative Party? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Not strong enough She'll resign Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 1 minute ago, boltondiver said: Not strong enough She'll resign Bet you she won’t. She has already told them she will leave before next election. But she will now stay on to deliver Brexit. No chance she goes before May unless parliament forces her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Just now, bwfcfan5 said: Bet you she won’t. She has already told them she will leave before next election. But she will now stay on to deliver Brexit. No chance she goes before May unless parliament forces her. I agree, nowhere near as close as people thought it might be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 1 minute ago, bwfcfan5 said: Bet you she won’t. She has already told them she will leave before next election. But she will now stay on to deliver Brexit. No chance she goes before May unless parliament forces her. Both of us can't be right! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 She’s going nowhere. Shes got iron curtains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalcolmW Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 She said she won't lead in the 2022 election. But if an election is forced next year, as well it might be, she certainly could stand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted December 12, 2018 Site Supporter Share Posted December 12, 2018 no surprise At the result. she’ll ignore the 117 completely and carry on like it didn’t happen. plucky underdog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Spider said: no surprise At the result. she’ll ignore the 117 completely and carry on like it didn’t happen. plucky underdog It was a bad result for her really. Over a third of her MPs said they have no confidence in her. That’s a huge number to get a deal past now. Worse than she was expecting. She said she won’t fight the next election. I think she will try and carry on to deliver Brexit but if her deal is rejected then I think she will go. But not till then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted December 12, 2018 Site Supporter Share Posted December 12, 2018 (edited) 24 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said: It was a bad result for her really. Over a third of her MPs said they have no confidence in her. That’s a huge number to get a deal past now. Worse than she was expecting. She said she won’t fight the next election. I think she will try and carry on to deliver Brexit but if her deal is rejected then I think she will go. But not till then. There won't be a chance for the deal to be rejected or accepted. The "meaningful vote" is dead and buried. Edited December 12, 2018 by Cheese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 2 hours ago, bwfcfan5 said: There are about 20 odd Labour MPs who might rebel and support it, is my guess. About right? how many of the ERG after their defeat tonight might fall in line behind her? More importantly who did ERG sponsor @gonzo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted December 13, 2018 Moderators Share Posted December 13, 2018 7 hours ago, boltondiver said: I think that your analysis is flawed. If she wins, she might resign anyway Time will tell, as Bob Marley said Is that wanker green going to put himself up for a vote of confidence Have the courage of your convictions, resign and stand as an independent, you self serving twat And the rest of the shithouse who voted with the 48 They are even worse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, tomski said: More importantly who did ERG sponsor @gonzo? Sampdoria Edited December 13, 2018 by gonzo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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