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1 hour ago, boltondiver said:

Who were you speaking to?

He won't be speaking to crausby that's for sure. He and his people are a waste of space.

I really needed help a few months back over a very a serious personal issue.

Sent an e-mail requesting a meeting.

Apart from the usual automated response saying they will get back to me, I've heard 100% of Jack Shit.

Fucking waste of an MPs salary.

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12 minutes ago, royal white said:

How ironic that you say leavers don’t go fact, evidence or reality......then go on to say 95% of politicians can’t bring themselves to do the right thing! 

 

Utter shite...

The vast majority know this is a mess. They cannot agree in sufficient how to extricate themselves from the mess. That was my point. It was, poorly worded. I apologise.


And I cannot prove this and do not state it as fact. But I'd bet were you to sack all the MPs and say to them "you are no longer in office and can never run again for office" and then as they trooped out give them a ballot box which says "should Brexit proceed" the vast majority would say "NO". Or at the very least "not in its current form". 

My point which you won't accept is that even those Tory MPs who voted for May's deal, did so out of loyalty or fear of no deal. The vast majority if you took party whips, self preservation and everything out of it, would support something very different.....

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Just now, bwfcfan5 said:

The vast majority know this is a mess. They cannot agree in sufficient how to extricate themselves from the mess. That was my point. It was, poorly worded. I apologise.


And I cannot prove this and do not state it as fact. But I'd bet were you to sack all the MPs and say to them "you are no longer in office and can never run again for office" and then as they trooped out give them a ballot box which says "should Brexit proceed" the vast majority would say "NO". Or at the very least "not in its current form". 

My point which you won't accept is that even those Tory MPs who voted for May's deal, did so out of loyalty or fear of no deal. The vast majority if you took party whips, self preservation and everything out of it, would support something very different.....

You're still making bullshit up.    

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1 minute ago, Mounts Kipper said:

You're still making bullshit up.    

At least you've learned something today....

Anyhow, could you explain to me how the EU visa system will allow you to spend the majority of your time in Spain...you never actually got round to answering that.....

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I present without comment the findings and membership of the Treasure Committee...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47209369

Member Party
Nicky Morgan (Chair) Conservative
Rushanara Ali Labour
Mr Steve Baker Conservative
Colin Clark Conservative
Mr Simon Clarke Conservative
Charlie Elphicke Conservative
Stewart Hosie Scottish National Party
Alison McGovern Labour
Catherine McKinnell Labour
John Mann Labour
Wes Streeting Labour

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14 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said:

At least you've learned something today....

Anyhow, could you explain to me how the EU visa system will allow you to spend the majority of your time in Spain...you never actually got round to answering that.....

I have said all along there will be a deal, which will allow same access and rights as we currently have. 

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9 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

I have said all along there will be a deal, which will allow same access and rights as we currently have. 

So how is this taking control of our borders ?

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Mahou is catpiss that even Spanish hobos shun. FACT #1 (source: common knowledge).

The Spanish plan to sequester all retirement lairs of Brexiteer immigrants only then unceremoniously boot them out. FACT #2 (source: King Juan Carlos' butler).

Nigel Farage has been smuggling in Romanian Gypsies via the service tunnel of the Chunnel to work in his child chimney-sweep and pickpocket ring (source: Eurostar guard in a pub near Waterloo station).

More facts to follow...

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28 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said:

I present without comment the findings and membership of the Treasure Committee...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47209369

Member Party
Nicky Morgan (Chair) Conservative
Rushanara Ali Labour
Mr Steve Baker Conservative
Colin Clark Conservative
Mr Simon Clarke Conservative
Charlie Elphicke Conservative
Stewart Hosie Scottish National Party
Alison McGovern Labour
Catherine McKinnell Labour
John Mann Labour
Wes Streeting Labour

The report comments on Hammond saying that there will be a Brexit dividend not being true because it has already been factored into forecast by the OBR.   Just what are you trying to prove here?     

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The reality is that, if it is so difficult to leave the EU now, just think how difficult it would be when we next got an opportunity in 10, 20 or even more years. Whatever the strains might be, they are definitely worth having the courage to face.

The possibility of Germany fudging the issue in the last 48 hours will remain real even if all seems lost.

I'm sure Mr Putin is watching the backbone being displayed by so many Britons with interest.

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9 minutes ago, MalcolmW said:

The reality is that, if it is so difficult to leave the EU now, just think how difficult it would be when we next got an opportunity in 10, 20 or even more years. Whatever the strains might be, they are definitely worth having the courage to face.

The possibility of Germany fudging the issue in the last 48 hours will remain real even if all seems lost.

I'm sure Mr Putin is watching the backbone being displayed by so many Britons with interest.

If leaving becomes more difficult with time then we obviously shouldn't be leaving....

If the EU as some predict collapses, then leaving is easier.....

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49 minutes ago, tyldesley_white said:

So how is this taking control of our borders ?

Think you are all confused. I am talking about UK folk living in Spain. Nothing to do with our borders. 

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1 hour ago, bwfcfan5 said:

At least you've learned something today....

Anyhow, could you explain to me how the EU visa system will allow you to spend the majority of your time in Spain...you never actually got round to answering that.....

I get it!

us leavers are just inferior, with pea-sized brains of an amoeba

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2 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said:

I have said all along there will be a deal, which will allow same access and rights as we currently have. 

 

1 hour ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Think you are all confused. I am talking about UK folk living in Spain. Nothing to do with our borders. 

You are beyond deluded. You seem to have abandoned all trace of logical thought. 

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2 hours ago, bwfcfan5 said:

If leaving becomes more difficult with time then we obviously shouldn't be leaving....

If the EU as some predict collapses, then leaving is easier.....

\so you would prefer to stay in so that if it collapses leaving will be easier. OK then, it's a fairly passive stance but not mine.

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20 minutes ago, Cheese said:

 

You are beyond deluded. You seem to have abandoned all trace of logical thought. 

Hes spent too long with James barker

In fact, I think he's given him his password

Edited by Casino

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5 minutes ago, MalcolmW said:

\so you would prefer to stay in so that if it collapses leaving will be easier. OK then, it's a fairly passive stance but not mine.

Quality Malc.....praise the lord for the quote function ......he’s a robot and not made from stern stuff isn’t he ?

Throwing in the towel when something is tough/awkward.....what a whopper he is 

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3 hours ago, MalcolmW said:

The reality is that, if it is so difficult to leave the EU now, just think how difficult it would be when we next got an opportunity in 10, 20 or even more years. Whatever the strains might be, they are definitely worth having the courage to face.

The possibility of Germany fudging the issue in the last 48 hours will remain real even if all seems lost.

I'm sure Mr Putin is watching the backbone being displayed by so many Britons with interest.

Malc- I presume you watched last night's episode on the EU?

Incredible; almost ripping itself apart, breaking their own rules, doing deals behind the backs of others and telling countries with net receipt of EU money they should shut up and tow the party line.

Even Tusk made some sense wrt the flood.

Angela made a huge fuck up, and it was admitted that some German MPs were advocating shooting migrants!

They kept that quiet.

Better off out of it. Much, much better off.

Edited by Tonge moor green jacket

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3 hours ago, boltondiver said:

I get it!

us leavers are just inferior, with pea-sized brains of an amoeba

An amoeba roughly spans 25-75 microns, an average pea is 5000 to 10,000 microns.

In other words you're postulating upon an impossibility.

If you voted remain you'd have known what nonsensical dribble you'd posted.

;)

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1 hour ago, MalcolmW said:

\so you would prefer to stay in so that if it collapses leaving will be easier. OK then, it's a fairly passive stance but not mine.

IF it collapses then agreements with key players would be far easier than now. And leaving now doesn’t appear to give us any advantage. 

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19 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Malc- I presume you watched last night's episode on the EU?

Incredible; almost ripping itself apart, breaking their own rules, doing deals behind the backs of others and telling countries with net receipt of EU money they should shut up and tow the party line.

Even Tusk made some sense wrt the flood.

Angela made a huge fuck up, and it was admitted that some German MPs were advocating shooting migrants!

They kept that quiet.

Better off out of it. Much, much better off.

I saw it R.

Quite incredulous really. True bully boys in motion :D

I’m far from a Tusk lover but like you say,he did make some sense on the flood.

Just imagine if British MPs were advocating shooting migrants.....crikey, it’d be seen on the moon.

And certain folk/cretins think the EU is strong,stable and eternal....haha, it’s more than falling apart mate.

It’s got fissures bigger than Johnny Fartpants’s undercrackers.

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To be honest I was aghast at some of what I saw. Some surprising openness too, especially given what's going on currently.

At least those eastern states took no shit and closed the border themselves. Made the job far easier for Tusk etc to negotiate with Turkey.

Impressed to that the UK stepped out of the situation with direct offer to the camps. Made sense.

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3 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

To be honest I was aghast at some of what I saw. Some surprising openness too, especially given what's going on currently.

At least those eastern states took no shit and closed the border themselves. Made the job far easier for Tusk etc to negotiate with Turkey.

Impressed to that the UK stepped out of the situation with direct offer to the camps. Made sense.

Interesting speech here from Carney.....a big contradiction to what he said yesterday.....looks like they’ve started to give up with Project Fear.....

the-global-outlook-speech-by-mark-carney

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