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[Ani]

3 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

Correct. That isn’t the entirety of the article though is it

No it also say the UK will be impacted 3 times as as Europe. 

[Escobarp]

2 minutes ago, Ani said:

No it also say the UK will be impacted 3 times as as Europe. 

In percentage terms yes not in actual monetary terms though 😁
 

Also says other major economies hit hard. Also says a deal will be done in their opinion similar to Canada. Obviously I know these positive things get blurry when you and your like read them.

But would you be happy with a Canada type deal all things considered?

[miamiwhite]

1 minute ago, Escobarp said:

In percentage terms yes not in actual monetary terms though 😁
 

Also says other major economies hit hard. Also says a deal will be done in their opinion similar to Canada. Obviously I know these positive things get blurry when you and your like read them.

But would you be happy with a Canada type deal all things considered?

Spot on pal, percentage terms and not monetary, the actual percentage being worth less than our fishing rights, which the Ilk(ley Moor bar tat) of Ian and Co like to comment on all the time as being tiny.

They struggle to read the full article, and the likes of the BBC, Guardian etc wouldn't dream of publishing this kind of news in fear of their beloved EU friends and part funders having a pop at them.

[Spider]

Straw poll - would everyone be happy with a Canada style deal?

Edited October 23, 2020 by Spider

[Escobarp]

Of course a number won’t as they want no deal so they can say they were right.

[Spider]

2 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

Of course a number won’t as they want no deal so they can say they were right.

Is Canada deal better, worse or the same as we had before?

I don’t know.

[Ani]

2 minutes ago, miamiwhite said:

Spot on pal, percentage terms and not monetary, the actual percentage being worth less than our fishing rights, which the Ilk(ley Moor bar tat) of Ian and Co like to comment on all the time as being tiny.

They struggle to read the full article, and the likes of the BBC, Guardian etc wouldn't dream of publishing this kind of news in fear of their beloved EU friends and part funders having a pop at them.

The article actually shows Brexit is not better for anyone which is pretty much what people have been saying. 
We take a % hit that  is triple that of the EU as a whole. It highlights the countries which will fare worse so Malta Luxembourg and Ireland - That will teach them for taking the piss for years. 
It is good to see such a balanced article highlighting the futility of Brexit. 
 

In terms of the Canada type deal with only limited tarriffs and quotas. Yes that is better than no deal. Do you think that deal will be better than the current deal Escobarp ? 
The Canada deal also comes with border checks so assume we are now saying that we will need in all probability checks at the Irish border. 

[Escobarp]

7 minutes ago, Ani said:

The article actually shows Brexit is not better for anyone which is pretty much what people have been saying. 
We take a % hit that  is triple that of the EU as a whole. It highlights the countries which will fare worse so Malta Luxembourg and Ireland - That will teach them for taking the piss for years. 
It is good to see such a balanced article highlighting the futility of Brexit. 
 

In terms of the Canada type deal with only limited tarriffs and quotas. Yes that is better than no deal. Do you think that deal will be better than the current deal Escobarp ? 
The Canada deal also comes with border checks so assume we are now saying that we will need in all probability checks at the Irish border. 

Yes as we will be out the eu so to me and someone who voted to leave it’s a better deal and situation than we have now as it allows us to forge similar relationships with the ROW which we can’t do now. So when people say it can’t be better than we have now. Yes it can. That deal in isolation obviously not but this isn’t about that deal in isolation or we wouldn’t have ever chosen to leave. Those who are still upset about the decision make it about one deal. This whole thing is about a series of deals. 
 

believe it or not the EU is just one part of a big world. It isn’t the be all And end all. But it is important. And a Canada deal will continue our  close trading relationship 

[Escobarp]

13 minutes ago, Spider said:

Is Canada deal better, worse or the same as we had before?

I don’t know.

it was never going to be better or the same. But I didnt expect that so I’m pretty cool with it.  
 

It’s one deal out of numerous we will make. But you know this. You’re not as stupid as you try and make out. 
 

Like I said to the Yorkshire grim reaper above, the world is a big place. 
 

[Ani]

9 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

Yes as we will be out the eu so to me and someone who voted to leave it’s a better deal and situation than we have now as it allows us to forge similar relationships with the ROW which we can’t do now. So when people say it can’t be better than we have now. Yes it can. That deal in isolation obviously not but this isn’t about that deal in isolation or we wouldn’t have ever chosen to leave. Those who are still upset about the decision make it about one deal. This whole thing is about a series of deals. 
 

believe it or not the EU is just one part of a big world. It isn’t the be all And end all. But it is important. And a Canada deal will continue our  close trading relationship 

Which countries do we currently not deal with ? 
Or do you mean the UK will get better deals than those currently in place with the EU. 
When will these deals be negotiated ? What happens in the interim ? 
 

And you missed the Irish border question. Be quick step daughters b/f has paid for the Leeds game so will be watching/betting on that. 

[Escobarp]

2 minutes ago, Ani said:

Which countries do we currently not deal with ? 
Or do you mean the UK will get better deals than those currently in place with the EU. 
When will these deals be negotiated ? What happens in the interim ? 
 

And you missed the Irish border question. Be quick step daughters b/f has paid for the Leeds game so will be watching/betting on that. 

You didn’t ask a question about the Irish border. You made a statement 😘

enjoy the game. Marching on together 

[Winchester White]

To be honest, whilst these trade deals are good news (and by fuck we could do with some at the moment!) the one we need sorting is with the EU so if we can get one wrapped up with them that isn't completely shite then great. No deal is not an option.

[Escobarp]

2 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

To be honest, whilst these trade deals are good news (and by fuck we could do with some at the moment!) the one we need sorting is with the EU so if we can get one wrapped up with them that isn't completely shite then great. No deal is not an option.

the article is saying that they believe a deal will be struck. Of course it’s one organization and lots will have a different view but they are a major bank. Maybe would do us all good if some more of  the big banks and corporations came out and gave their thoughts on where we are heading. Be nice to know. 
 

my organization believe a deal will be struck but it will likely mean some form of tariffs. As an aside we’ve just released our third quarter figures and they are record numbers. Up on last year which itself at the time was a record. 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

4 hours ago, Casino said:

What's in it for the EU to give equal terms to the UK outside as to UK inside?

 

 

None.

That's not relevant. It was a comment on Spider's comment upon things being equal to what we have now. Which clearly won't be the case, but if it was would actually be very decent.

 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

26 minutes ago, Ani said:

Which countries do we currently not deal with ? 
Or do you mean the UK will get better deals than those currently in place with the EU. 
When will these deals be negotiated ? What happens in the interim ? 
 

And you missed the Irish border question. Be quick step daughters b/f has paid for the Leeds game so will be watching/betting on that. 

Current deals are for the EU, not specifically for any one member. Creates potential for improvement for both us and the other nation.

 

[miamiwhite]

55 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

Yes as we will be out the eu so to me and someone who voted to leave it’s a better deal and situation than we have now as it allows us to forge similar relationships with the ROW which we can’t do now. So when people say it can’t be better than we have now. Yes it can. That deal in isolation obviously not but this isn’t about that deal in isolation or we wouldn’t have ever chosen to leave. Those who are still upset about the decision make it about one deal. This whole thing is about a series of deals. 
 

believe it or not the EU is just one part of a big world. It isn’t the be all And end all. But it is important. And a Canada deal will continue our  close trading relationship 

And the EU's market share is shrinking considerably as it has done for a few years with the future market share predicted to shrink even quicker in the years ahead. The EU lovers obviously don't like these facts and future outlook.

[miamiwhite]

1 hour ago, Ani said:

The article actually shows Brexit is not better for anyone which is pretty much what people have been saying. 
We take a % hit that  is triple that of the EU as a whole. It highlights the countries which will fare worse so Malta Luxembourg and Ireland - That will teach them for taking the piss for years. 
It is good to see such a balanced article highlighting the futility of Brexit. 
 

In terms of the Canada type deal with only limited tarriffs and quotas. Yes that is better than no deal. Do you think that deal will be better than the current deal Escobarp ? 
The Canada deal also comes with border checks so assume we are now saying that we will need in all probability checks at the Irish border. 

Why exactly is Brexit futile ? Is that just your opinion ? 

Many believe it will either make or break the EU, as their leaders agree it is in urgent need of reform.

Do you miss those quotes from their leaders or just overlook them ? Enjoy the betting, but like Esco says, we will be marching on together, regardless of the failing and now shrinking EU.....FACT.

[miamiwhite]

1 minute ago, Mr Grey said:

Watch out, international man of Trade Farelly will be along to contest the facts 😏

And his chips will soon be absolutely drenched with piss my friend 🙂 

[miamiwhite]

10 minutes ago, Mr Grey said:

Watch out, international man of Trade Farelly will be along to contest the facts 😏

Farelli's Fucked Up EU FACTS enclosed to save him the humiliation once again 😉 

More recent ones are available to silence Mick 'The Beret' Brown when he enters the breach before being despatched for a whopping six out of the ground 

https://fullfact.org/europe/eu-has-shrunk-percentage-world-economy/

 

 

[miamiwhite]

1 minute ago, Mr Grey said:

I knew the cunt ate chips 😁

no mate, Farelli's French Fries are his favourite 😋 😀 

[miamiwhite]

Just now, Mr Grey said:

🤣🤣🤣 👌

The Drunken Steve Bray of Mansell Way 😉 

[Winchester White]

34 minutes ago, miamiwhite said:

Farelli's Fucked Up EU FACTS enclosed to save him the humiliation once again 😉 

More recent ones are available to silence Mick 'The Beret' Brown when he enters the breach before being despatched for a whopping six out of the ground 

https://fullfact.org/europe/eu-has-shrunk-percentage-world-economy/

 

 

You are correct that is a FACT as you like to put it. The fact you forget is that nearly all western countries percentage of world GDP has reduced as the Indian and eastern countries economies have developed massively so of course their share of world GDP reflects this.

But, does that shows the EU is less or more important in the coming years of trading with these new economic powers though?

Not a trick question by the way, I listen to some who say we need to be part of a bigger bargaining chip and others like Dan Hannan who think the opposite. Dan though is against anything apart from free trade which is wonderful in an ideal world, but we do not live in that world.

[miamiwhite]

7 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

You are correct that is a FACT as you like to put it. The fact you forget is that nearly all western countries percentage of world GDP has reduced as the Indian and eastern countries economies have developed massively so of course their share of world GDP reflects this.

But, does that shows the EU is less or more important in the coming years of trading with these new economic powers though?

Not a trick question by the way, I listen to some who say we need to be part of a bigger bargaining chip and others like Dan Hannan who think the opposite. Dan though is against anything apart from free trade which is wonderful in an ideal world, but we do not live in that world.

The EU will not exist in its current form in the years ahead, you can mark my words on that squire. And that is not a trick answer.

I know it, the leaders know it, and if you woke up to reality, you know you would gladly acknowledge it too.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

3 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

You are correct that is a FACT as you like to put it. The fact you forget is that nearly all western countries percentage of world GDP has reduced as the Indian and eastern countries economies have developed massively so of course their share of world GDP reflects this.

But, does that shows the EU is less or more important in the coming years of trading with these new economic powers though?

Not a trick question by the way, I listen to some who say we need to be part of a bigger bargaining chip and others like Dan Hannan who think the opposite. Dan though is against anything apart from free trade which is wonderful in an ideal world, but we do not live in that world.

Swings and roundabouts. Being part of a large purchasing group might give more power on prices, but economies of scale can also come with over generalisation and unwieldy practices. 

Clearly no guarantees either way, but a chance to tailor things more closely to our requirements. 

[Winchester White]

34 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Swings and roundabouts. Being part of a large purchasing group might give more power on prices, but economies of scale can also come with over generalisation and unwieldy practices. 

Clearly no guarantees either way, but a chance to tailor things more closely to our requirements. 

I agree, but our tailored requirements are mainly european. What are we suddenly going to get cheaper that we really need or buy? This is the folly of so called great trade deals outside of the EU. What are we actually paying massive duties on that we can't get inside the EU?

Or in another way of saying it, what is actually the point or more importantly the actual tangible benefit to businesses in the UK?