paulhanley Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 10 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: The failure to enact the referendum result is causing that polarisation, now if remain had accepted a that result we would be out and none of this would be happening. Correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 Just now, boltondiver said: Hmm Who will invoke A50? Vince cable. 😂🤣😂🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted May 27, 2019 Author Share Posted May 27, 2019 What was the final seat tally ? Was it 29-26 ? Must admit, that clown from Burnley, Campbell needs sectioning. He was priceless on Sky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules_darby Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 Just now, paulhanley said: Correct. It’s not though is it Your previous post about “all those in love with the EU” sums up the utter bollocks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 1 minute ago, miamiwhite said: What was the final seat tally ? Was it 29-26 ? Must admit, that clown from Burnley, Campbell needs sectioning. He was priceless on Sky. Next cell to ST. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salford Trotter Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, boltondiver said: Hmm Who will invoke A50? Well if it revoked and the electorate vote to remain in another vote it won't need to be invoked again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted May 27, 2019 Author Share Posted May 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Next cell to ST. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted May 27, 2019 Author Share Posted May 27, 2019 Just for clarity and from the BBC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules_darby Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 You lost, you lost embarrassing politics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon boy Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 12 minutes ago, Salford Trotter said: And i said it was an assumption but an educated one given the fact TBP would have mopped up the vast majority of the 'leave' vote. Maybe we will never know but what is clear that no one party will command a majority in another GE and so leaving the EU is far from being a certainty in my view. Something has to give as we can't continue being in this political pergutory. I can see A50 being revoked so we can get on with governing the country properly with the promise that in 5 years time we will have another referendum but this time with a fully informed electorate Who’s going to revoke it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, jules_darby said: You lost, you lost embarrassing politics It’s called democracy. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 I invite folks to watch this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darwen_white Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 7 minutes ago, miamiwhite said: Just for clarity and from the BBC Interesting stats on Change UK. No Change 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salford Trotter Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, Moon boy said: Who’s going to revoke it? If there is no one party with a parliamentary majority then, in order to get on with running the country which had to be the priority, the parties themselves would revoke it. As i said maybe that is done with the promise of a People's vote further down the line who knows. One thing is for sure we can't stay as we are, this is an unbearable situation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted May 27, 2019 Members Share Posted May 27, 2019 55 minutes ago, boltondiver said: The numbers just don’t clearly show that. Which way will the rump of Labour and Conservative go? That would tell us the full picture. The hysterical one gets himself all into a lather and then spouts horse shit. What he fails to point out (conveniently) is that the Illiberal Undemocrats and the communists masquerading as environmentalists are not one issue parties. They already had a support base so you can't attribute their total vote to the Remain cause. Of course he would like you to believe that this is the case because, as he has shown since this thread began, he wants to put his fingers in his ears, stamp his feet and sing Gingangooly every time the majority case as evidenced in the referendum is put forward. Head in the sand. Cocking a deaf 'un. Turning a blind eye. Whichever way you want to put it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted May 27, 2019 Members Share Posted May 27, 2019 57 minutes ago, Ani said: Mounts there are 3 sides to this Leavers, Remain and old school parties. The old school parties have been destroyed. Parties with a strong remain message (Greens and Lib Dem’s) have done as well as the Brexit party. Challenge UK and UKIP cancel each other out. If you add SNP vote in there (although their vote is made up of Remainers and Leavers). Parties with a strong Remain message have the higher % of the vote. If you don't allow for their other policies which already gave them a solid base of course. Brexit party was/is a one issue party so far and only weeks old. Remainers can try to pour cold water on that all they like but it won't wash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salford Trotter Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, darwen_white said: Interesting stats on Change UK. No Change 😂 It just shows Remain has the biggest share if the vote, thanks for confirming that👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted May 27, 2019 Members Share Posted May 27, 2019 41 minutes ago, Ani said: Can everyone just be clear that clearly there is no clear message in this result ! People are spinning it whichever way and continuing their entrenched views which get us nowhere. Why is it suddenly leave with no deal or second referendum? Why not get a better deal and Leave ? Ani - just for good measure, you are talking absolute sense here. This is precisely what MK, PH, mysalf and others would like to see although No Deal would not be the end of the world in my opinion. MK has consistently predicted that there would be a deal and I think the likelihood of this has just increased. What we hope for is that Boris (most likely) will emphatically put no deal back on the table and call the bluff of the federalist bastards who seek to take us over by stealth. Then, and only then, are we likely to see negotiations in good faith OR the EU side will have a tantrum and fuck off with no deal only to come crawling back eventually because of the military might of the UK and the security blanket it offers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 7 minutes ago, bolty58 said: The hysterical one gets himself all into a lather and then spouts horse shit. What he fails to point out (conveniently) is that the Illiberal Undemocrats and the communists masquerading as environmentalists are not one issue parties. They already had a support base so you can't attribute their total vote to the Remain cause. Of course he would like you to believe that this is the case because, as he has shown since this thread began, he wants to put his fingers in his ears, stamp his feet and sing Gingangooly every time the majority case as evidenced in the referendum is put forward. Head in the sand. Cocking a deaf 'un. Turning a blind eye. Whichever way you want to put it. You think leavers are voting for the Lib Dem’s or Greens? If so then you might be even more deluded than I initially thought. This was a single issue election. And people decided to vote either for Brexit or not Brexit. Which is why Labour lost its vote to the Lib Dem’s. End of. And explicitly remain parties got more votes than explicitly Brexit ones. That is just a fact. What is read into it is up for people to decide. But it’s certainly no clear pro Brexit vote as has been predicted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted May 27, 2019 Members Share Posted May 27, 2019 31 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Love your assumptions, unfortunately you’ve not a clue about me. You should have left "about me" off the end mate. That would have been more accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrelli Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 22 minutes ago, miamiwhite said: Just for clarity and from the BBC Just for clarity, remain parties had a larger share of the vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted May 27, 2019 Members Share Posted May 27, 2019 30 minutes ago, jules_darby said: No, polarisation was way before that; hence the 52/48 result in the first place It’s beencaused by Farage and Bojo’s lies, and harping back to the empire etc on one side and Cameron’s ineptitude and fear on the other oh and social media, the traditional media and loads of other factors The inability to leave with a good deal and carry out the 2016 referendum’s result’s wishes appears to be a condition of the situation— although I agree it would be the best solution right now IMHO I gave you a like there when I meant to quote you. Ah well. I note there that you fail to mention the disappearance of the original Common Market and the evolution, by small bites, into a federalist project where centralised control over the whole of Europe is the ultimate goal. This is what many of us are against. One could argue that we fought (and won) against a form of central control between 1939 and 1945. We'll win again too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted May 27, 2019 Author Share Posted May 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, Farrelli said: Just for clarity, remain parties had a larger share of the vote. How would you class the Tory party ? Most on here think they’re a leave party don’t they ? Are all Labour voters in the remain camp ? Hmmmm, I don’t think so. Which SINGLE party wiped the floor with the rest and will have the most MEPs ? Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 1 minute ago, bolty58 said: I gave you a like there when I meant to quote you. Ah well. I note there that you fail to mention the disappearance of the original Common Market and the evolution, by small bites, into a federalist project where centralised control over the whole of Europe is the ultimate goal. This is what many of us are against. One could argue that we fought (and won) against a form of central control between 1939 and 1945. We'll win again too. Ey up. Another war analogy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 5 minutes ago, Farrelli said: Just for clarity, remain parties had a larger share of the vote. Did they? Are Labour and Tories now remain as well?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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