Politics

[mickbrown]

Just now, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Could donate it to FV. All money welcome.

I like that idea

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Just now, mickbrown said:

I like that idea

Get Tommy to match fund, and a statue of each outside.

[miamiwhite]

5 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Get Tommy to match fund, and a statue of each outside.

Tommy Robinson statue ? Us lot singing “Come on you Whites”

Oh my giddy god.......Casino would borrow my fake tan and go watching United

 

[miamiwhite]

13 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

Well lets see what she does if she raises a surplus eh?

Then we can compare.

 

Now now Michael, you know there won’t be a surplus.

Her ambulance chasing legal team will make sure every single penny is “well accounted for”

You middle class socialists should be thoroughly ashamed of one’s self

 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

27 minutes ago, miamiwhite said:

Tommy Robinson statue ? Us lot singing “Come on you Whites”

Oh my giddy god.......Casino would borrow my fake tan and go watching United

 

In fairness Gina is a good looking lady. Politics aside, she'd make a better statue than Michael Jackson.

[miamiwhite]

10 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

In fairness Gina is a good looking lady. Politics aside, she'd make a better statue than Michael Jackson.

She certainly is a fine looking dame mate, but she should still spend her own money instead of begging......

[TM Trotter]

7 hours ago, miamiwhite said:

Doesn’t want to ? Haha....you are priceless and so biased.

Why doesn’t she want to ? Go on, explain that.

Quite simply really isn’t it for normal folk ? She doesn’t want to impact on her lifestyle.

Go on, admit it fella, make our day.

I suppose she could always do what Arron Banks did, and go to the Russians to fund her political action. 

[bolty58]

15 hours ago, Casino said:

getting control of our borders

but then theyre white so nobody will care

 

tbf, it only suggests up for discussion, but i think we can read between the lines

Obsessed. This is for you:

 

 

[bolty58]

15 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Aussies will soon change their minds when millions of Brits arrive en masse.

Don;t you believe it. They fucking love us down here - especially out West which is the best part anyway.

Little England here. They are shocked when you don't have a 'pommy accent'. Every major company has a Brit at the top - especially in Engineering roles. BHP - from Whitehaven. Rio Tinto - from Portsmouth. Alcoa - from Telford. And so it goes.......................

You will also get much better fruit from down here that that homogenised shite produced in the EU.

[bolty58]

13 hours ago, Escobarp said:

Because the programme is British so they are referring to people from the same country /union. 

Spaniards would still refer to them as immigrants. Bolty is an ex pat to us. To aussies an immigrant. 

...and to me, a defender of HM's property.

[bolty58]

12 hours ago, Sweep said:

Proper Australians aren't white 🤔

 

You are Casino. I thought bogus accounts were prohibited?

You just don't like white skin.

[bolty58]

11 hours ago, miamiwhite said:

Now then ladies, gents, little boy and girls, here’s a moral dilemma for those who call Tommy Robinson for his never ending fundraising schemes.

Will those same people, readily call out this boot for her fundraising ideas ?

 

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1179299/Brexit-news-Gina-Miller-boris-johnson-supreme-court-ruling-no-deal-parliament-eu-exit

The queen of scumbags.

[bolty58]

3 hours ago, TM Trotter said:

I suppose she could always do what Arron Banks did, and go to the Russians to fund her political action. 

As long as she goes and stays gone that will do for me.

Treacherous bitch.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

5 hours ago, bolty58 said:

Don;t you believe it. They fucking love us down here - especially out West which is the best part anyway.

Little England here. They are shocked when you don't have a 'pommy accent'. Every major company has a Brit at the top - especially in Engineering roles. BHP - from Whitehaven. Rio Tinto - from Portsmouth. Alcoa - from Telford. And so it goes.......................

You will also get much better fruit from down here that that homogenised shite produced in the EU.

Sometimes see that show where folk are considering going to Australia.

Always paints a picture of wonderful outdoor lifestyle- then you mention 40 degree temperatures and I think "fuck that".

As for fruit- I will pick a couple of discovery apples off my tree later- delicious.

The frogs can keep their golden delicious shite.

[fatolive]

https://www.ft.com/content/30ba45d0-da48-11e9-8f9b-77216ebe1f17 

 

Arlene softening the stance on NI having exact same terms 

could end up with the original proposal that everyone was happy with at this rate 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

21 minutes ago, fatolive said:

https://www.ft.com/content/30ba45d0-da48-11e9-8f9b-77216ebe1f17 

 

Arlene softening the stance on NI having exact same terms 

could end up with the original proposal that everyone was happy with at this rate 

Can't see that, asks for a subscription. What has she said?

[fatolive]

25 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Can't see that, asks for a subscription. What has she said?

 

 

Try that way, it wont open for me from the link i posted either , too long to copy over 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Good news.

 

[miamiwhite]

16 hours ago, TM Trotter said:

I suppose she could always do what Arron Banks did, and go to the Russians to fund her political action. 

Oh dear, your mask is slipping Lone Ranger.

Did you see the link re the remainers being fined the other day for breaking the laws  ?

Silent on that little beauty aren’t you, just like the others who lost their tongue to Felix ?

Pathetic, the lot of you.

[Casino]

5 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Good news.

 

It is

But if be interested how the red hand gang square that with their brexit position

Cos it's a significant step towards a United Ireland

 

[Casino]

And now junker says we can have a deal

But, erm, has he ever said we can't....

[Tonge moor green jacket]

17 minutes ago, Casino said:

It is

But if be interested how the red hand gang square that with their brexit position

Cos it's a significant step towards a United Ireland

 

Wouldn't describe it as significant, but in centuries to come, I certainly see it being more unified.

The gfa was a huge step so who knows.

[paulhanley]

 

As ever Sherelle Jacobs of the Telegraph nails the remain psyche and eviscerates it. Are we peasant leave voters supposed to read broadsheet newspapers? 

Remainers' snobbery is their new religion by Sherelle Jacobs (The Telegraph)

If Brexit blew up the old world order, a new species of snob has been forged in its fuming embers. For evidence look no further than the growing tribe of Lib Dem-defecting arch-remainers. A few years ago, many were self-proclaimed Blairite centrists, judiciously uninspired by politics and possessing no view whatsoever on the EU. But in the space of three years, their anti-Brexit beliefs have become radically spiritual. From their ecstacy in the exaltation that "people didn't know what they voted for" to their delight in inhaling the smoky incense of an imminent no-deal "Armageddon", hating Brexit - and Brexiteers - has become a religion. 

Lib Dem leader Swinson is determined to stamp her authority as the spiritual guru of this burgeoning new sect. Her party's communications department has sought to not so much capture as carpet bomb headlines in recent days, with Ms Swinson declaring at their party conference that Brexiteers are "insular, closed and selfish". Given her disdain for Leave voters, it is any wonder she felt comfortable pledging to bypass the burdensome conventions of democracy by revoking Article 50.

Some Lib Dems are unsettled that this garish new brand of primary colours politics is thriving in a movement traditionally dedicated to capturing "none of the above" votes. Grandees like Sir Norman Lamb have described the direction as "dangerous". Even the anti-Brexit mainstream media dry-retched a little at the idea of scrapping the bogus but necessary ritual of a second referendum, and ran editorials on whether Ms Swinson may be the Nigel Farage of remain. 

But Ms Swinson is tellingly confident. A new wave of liberal populism is ripping through Remainia and she has decided her party should ride it. 

The wider public may bristle. Ms Swinson comes across as the radiantly sneering face of stuck-up liberal Britain. Her authoritarian rhetoric that rises and falls with plastic, patronising innocence is as perturbing as it is grating. But it is perfectly pitched to appeal to self-regarding metropolitans. Even her motto "Bollocks to Brexit" is a stroke of genius. Cackling defiance has become a snotty liberal affectation, similar to the way the word "like" punctuates every other word in their sentences. 

But there is something even more chilling underlying all this. The Lib Dems are expertly tapping into a virulent psychological need among some remainers to feel superior. Fuellled by social insecurity, despising Brexiteers has become a mark of status. Those who lambast leavers for suggesting that Britain is overcrowded do so out of frantic belief that the middle classes are themselves overcrowded. They are discombobulated by the fact that those who make £30,000  a year selling double glazing technically belong to the same sect as those who make £30,000 selling poetry books; and that Oxford graduates are theoretically condemned to the same social strata as those brandishing a degree from Oxford Brookes. Just maybe some militant Remainiacs have deduced that the best way to stand out in a crowded field is to distinguish themselves tribally from the provincial masses who want to leave the EU.

There are parallels with the cramped insecurity that fuelled the middle-class's fascinated disdain for "chavs" in the 90s; a struggling cosmopolitan bourgeoisie was vindictively keen to elevate itself above the flash Burberry-clad new money financially overtaking them.

But Brexit has shone a light on a new dimension to metropolitan snobbery. "Respectability" used to be the most important marker of superiority. Now it is "rationality". Perhaps this is down to the increased specialisation of middle-class professionals. Their sense of status derives from deep technical knowledge and command of esoteric managerial language. Thus Brexit is too complicated for the plebs to understand and leaving the EU is a study in simple-minded bigotry. It also explains the sickly admiration for slick professionals adept at preaching from the pulpit of constitutional pedantry - including Gina Miller.

Perhaps the most ironic strand to the remainer snobbery is the idea that the provincial "underclass" has been "deceived" with the promise of an unobtainable Brexit dream. This is little more than a projection of the bourgeois centrists' fears about their own gullability. They were utterly duped by the breathy promise of Blairism and watched in horror as it disintegrated in to a slime of warmongering, lies and spin. (It is only fitting that arch-remainer celebrity Alistair Campbell should seek to wash away his political sins in the weeping bog of cynical  paranoia that he created).

There is then, a segment of the urban middle-class that, bereft of any positive vision of the future, defines itself politically by its superiority to others. Until these people find new reason to hope, the star-stitched Brussels beret will confer the same symbolic significance as the Daily Mirror's flat cap a generation ago. The mines have long shut, but class hatred is an ever-burning charcoal to the British pysche.

Edited September 19, 2019 by paulhanley

[paulhanley]

Well, well. One (or more) of the EU 27 blocks a trade deal. That's never happened before has it. But no - we're far better off being part of a collective of 28 countries because we have more bargaining power - blah, blah, blah remoan-waffle, ignore the actual evidence.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-49753210

[Tonge moor green jacket]

By the looks of it, Austria has made a good decision there.