Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted March 12, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted March 12, 2019 1 minute ago, mickbrown said: I'm beginning to think our Theresa is a bit thick Cox was doing the negotiations as part of the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted March 12, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted March 12, 2019 Cox's statement now. Sounds fine too me; though I'm not sure it will be enough. Time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deane koontz Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 His voice is almost as ridiculous as moggys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted March 12, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted March 12, 2019 Moggy? His voice is ace- should do the next recording of war of the worlds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 ERG recommending their group not to support the deal. These people need to grow up and live in the real world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted March 12, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted March 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Yes (certainly largely), JRM suggested as much earlier. I think anyone expecting Cox to publish a document saying we are completely free to escape the backstop, was expecting too much. Such complex legal dealings are always subject to interpretation, and it would be virtually impossible for him to categorically say one way or another. As confirmed by Bob Neil's question and Cox's answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySanchez Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 (edited) Edit Edited March 12, 2019 by DirtySanchez Missed quote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted March 12, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted March 12, 2019 I've got to the point where I'm thinking, even if they invited the Labour Party to come up with an acceptable deal, if May was delivering it to parliament, the Opposition would vote against it. It makes for pretty shit governance if it doesn't matter what one side wants, the others won't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, MickyD said: I've got to the point where I'm thinking, even if they invited the Labour Party to come up with an acceptable deal, if May was delivering it to parliament, the Opposition would vote against it. It makes for pretty shit governance if it doesn't matter what one side wants, the others won't. Which wouldn’t be so bad if like the Lib Dem’s Labour we’re opposed to Brexit full stop. But Corbyn wants to deliver it. And whilst he had a credible deal that May won’t consider its too late regardless. So he should be instructing his party to back this deal to avoid no deal. But he won’t. Useless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted March 12, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted March 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, MickyD said: I've got to the point where I'm thinking, even if they invited the Labour Party to come up with an acceptable deal, if May was delivering it to parliament, the Opposition would vote against it. It makes for pretty shit governance if it doesn't matter what one side wants, the others won't. 100% Micky It's not all labour MPs in fairness. Vienna convention coming back in now. This could be the way out that would allow the erg to get on board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 27 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said: ERG recommending their group not to support the deal. These people need to grow up and live in the real world. The only real Brexit from the only real brexiteers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Rumours that Tories are briefing their party organisers to prepare for European elections......think that if true it says what the government expects to happen....: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Just now, boltondiver said: The only real Brexit from the only real brexiteers Which they know cannot be delivered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Just now, bwfcfan5 said: Which they know cannot be delivered. That’s as maybe, but at least they are authentic, unlike many MPs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, boltondiver said: That’s as maybe, but at least they are authentic, unlike many MPs Authentic? Sorry but no. They can’t compromise and if they bring down this deal they only have themselves to blame. I really hope that IF they bring it down the Boles threat of working cross party on the softest Brexit possible transpires just to teach them a lesson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted March 12, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted March 12, 2019 11 minutes ago, boltondiver said: The only real Brexit from the only real brexiteers I know we differ as to what extent we feel is necessary from this, but I'd still consider myself to be very much pro-brexit. They (erg) didn't make the best of jobs of clarifying their position prior to the vote for me. Was difficult in fairness with a leave pm. As the vote was an in/out job, perhaps a secondary question on the paper, with either a clean break/agreed deal option, within the leave vote, would have given clarity as to the way forward. Would have helped suppress the screechers too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted March 12, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted March 12, 2019 Where are the sweets!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Winchester White Posted March 12, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted March 12, 2019 Sounds like this will be the end of May. I can only see this ending in another referendum or general election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Just now, Winchester White said: Sounds like this will be the end of May. I can only see this ending in another referendum or general election. There’s a great article somewhere which shows that it is too late to do anything but leave on 29 March Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Just now, boltondiver said: There’s a great article somewhere which shows that it is too late to do anything but leave on 29 March Which isn’t true. I can see an extension to facilitate a GE. Not sure what else the EU would approve a delay for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted March 12, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted March 12, 2019 One MP already said he will change his vote from against to for. Very important debate and some hugely important subtleties, which alas some opposition members will clearly not consider. TM sounding like a dalek adding to the atmosphere! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 8 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said: Which isn’t true. I can see an extension to facilitate a GE. Not sure what else the EU would approve a delay for now. I just said there’s a great article. I’ll see if I can find it. I’m supposed to be working........ I hope it is true, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, boltondiver said: I just said there’s a great article. I’ll see if I can find it. I’m supposed to be working........ I hope it is true, of course. Here you go....... https://brexitcentral.com/deal-no-deal-heres-brexit-cannot-stopped/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 15 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said: Which isn’t true. I can see an extension to facilitate a GE. Not sure what else the EU would approve a delay for now. If if we get an extension for a GE, I'm not sure what that does apart from kick it down the road for a couple more years - and we have a GE....is anybody confident that any party will get a majority? - I'm not, which will then bring us back to this same stalemate. If we do get an extension, then the whole Brexit thing is pretty much dead I reckon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 16 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said: Which isn’t true. I can see an extension to facilitate a GE. Not sure what else the EU would approve a delay for now. Be interesting to see what a GE would throw up What on earth would this bunch of liars put in their manifesto? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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