Escobarp Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 I honestly cannot see how we can revoke article 50. It will destroy democracy and we may as well shut up shop and scrap the political system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted March 13, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted March 13, 2019 Right, who's standing as leader of the Tories at the next election then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Howard and Chris custard haven’t shown a liking for politics so they’ve been ruled out of a leadership bid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiggyStardust Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, Salford Trotter said: I don't think anything can be ruled out completely but if the EU sniff a chance that we may stay in then i can't see them rejecting an extension and Merkel said as much yesterday we stay in, if they reject, as no deal is off the table, automatically. So they will reject, and even as a leaver, I say so they should. If we cant agree a WA in 2 years, what difference is another 3 months going to make. The Mps who wanted to remain have won, at a cost that has yet to be determined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salford Trotter Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Just now, Tonge moor green jacket said: Right, who's standing as leader of the Tories at the next election then. It has to be a young fresh face with new ideas not one of the old guard, i'll say Johnny Mercer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted March 13, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted March 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, Salford Trotter said: I don't think anything can be ruled out completely but if the EU sniff a chance that we may stay in then i can't see them rejecting an extension and Merkel said as much yesterday It only needs one nation to say no though. A few more union flags on Gibraltar to rile the Spanish and that should do the trick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salford Trotter Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 1 minute ago, ZiggyStardust said: we stay in, if they reject, as no deal is off the table, automatically. So they will reject, and even as a leaver, I say so they should. If we cant agree a WA in 2 years, what difference is another 3 months going to make. The Mps who wanted to remain have won, at a cost that has yet to be determined. These are unchartered waters for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salford Trotter Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Just now, Tonge moor green jacket said: It only needs one nation to say no though. A few more union flags on Gibraltar to rile the Spanish and that should do the trick. Are you volunteering to go to Gilbraltar then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted March 13, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted March 13, 2019 Just now, Salford Trotter said: Are you volunteering to go to Gilbraltar then? Can't, not got my blue passport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salford Trotter Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Just now, Tonge moor green jacket said: Can't, not got my blue passport. Haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 7 minutes ago, Salford Trotter said: I don't think anything can be ruled out completely but if the EU sniff a chance that we may stay in then i can't see them rejecting an extension and Merkel said as much yesterday We’ll find out if the EU still want us. They might conclude that we are just too much trouble. Entirely possible and true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon boy Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, ZiggyStardust said: we stay in, if they reject, as no deal is off the table, automatically. So they will reject, and even as a leaver, I say so they should. If we cant agree a WA in 2 years, what difference is another 3 months going to make. The Mps who wanted to remain have won, at a cost that has yet to be determined. So what happens next? Does the Government tell the EU we’re not leaving, does the EU assume we’re not leaving, do we have a General Election, where does that leave a new Parliament, IN or Out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiggyStardust Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, boltondiver said: We’ll find out if the EU still want us. They might conclude that we are just too much trouble. Entirely possible and true. Ironically, my final tactic would be to threaten to remain. And remind them we have a veto. And that we would use it Every single opportunity we get. Let them kick us out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted March 13, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted March 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, ZiggyStardust said: Ironically, my final tactic would be to threaten to remain. And remind them we have a veto. And that we would use it Every single opportunity we get. Let them kick us out. Ooooooo i like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salford Trotter Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 10 minutes ago, boltondiver said: We’ll find out if the EU still want us. They might conclude that we are just too much trouble. Entirely possible and true. Though the ECJ have already said that we are entitled to revoke A50 without the EU having a say though i am not sure if that is time limited Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leigh white Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Farmers are kicking off now if we get a no deal. Fuck em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted March 13, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted March 13, 2019 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Escobarp said: I honestly cannot see how we can revoke article 50. It will destroy democracy and we may as well shut up shop and scrap the political system. A50 won't be revoked, but even if it was it wouldn't "destroy democracy". The Brexit promised by the Leave campaign in 2016 is simply not possible. Reality dictates that we cannot retain the same benefits outside the EU that we enjoy within it. They told us we could though. We will have to find out the hard way. Edited March 13, 2019 by Cheese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon boy Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 The EU have said we have 2 options the deal on offer or no deal, A delay to Article 50 would have to be agreed by Parliament and the EU, but whether it will be months or years Brexit cannot be stopped unless Parliament recinds Article 50, I don’t believe even this Parliament could go ahead to do this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 7 minutes ago, Salford Trotter said: Though the ECJ have already said that we are entitled to revoke A50 without the EU having a say though i am not sure if that is time limited I don’t think so, but probably before 2 weeks on Friday! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted March 13, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted March 13, 2019 10 minutes ago, Salford Trotter said: Though the ECJ have already said that we are entitled to revoke A50 without the EU having a say though i am not sure if that is time limited It isn't. Technically, we could revoke at 11:59 on 29th of March, but we won't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted March 13, 2019 Moderators Share Posted March 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, Moon boy said: The EU have said we have 2 options the deal on offer or no deal, A delay to Article 50 would have to be agreed by Parliament and the EU, but whether it will be months or years Brexit cannot be stopped unless Parliament recinds Article 50, I don’t believe even this Parliament could go ahead to do this Oh, I think they could May, the thick bitch, has played you for over 2 years Fantastic work, TM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: It only needs one nation to say no though. A few more union flags on Gibraltar to rile the Spanish and that should do the trick. That’s can’t be true though surely The EU dictates what happens and the member countries don’t get a say Surely if the 27 get to say Yes or No then it would mean that they actually do have sovereignty afterall? Edited March 13, 2019 by birch-chorley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon boy Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Casino said: Oh, I think they could May, the thick bitch, has played you for over 2 years Fantastic work, TM The Tigs, Soubry, Greive, Chukka have lied all along to say ‘they respect the will of the people’ but... To revoke Article 50 they would have to admit they were liars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leigh white Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 To the Tory Party, thank's for having the most useless set of cunt's to run our country in my lifetime, and you can't put the blame on Labour for this mess this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, birch-chorley said: That’s can’t be true though surely The EU dictates what happens and the member countries don’t get a say Surely if the 27 get to say Yes or No then it would mean that they actually do have sovereignty afterall? I thought Germany told the EU what they have to do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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