miamiwhite Posted June 2, 2021 Author Share Posted June 2, 2021 3 hours ago, Spider said: 1811 pages. Anyone changed their mind yet? Have a watch of this tomorrow fella, you'll see there's a whole unreported world outside your window. https://twitter.com/Jefferson_MFG/status/1400041281053761563?s=19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted June 2, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted June 2, 2021 2 hours ago, DirtySanchez said: Think it’s easy to say put more police on the streets as if that will solve it London is a big place so which streets do you put them on? There was a stabbing in a residential street in Walthamstow last year, not somewhere where you would expect there to be a police presence Clearly these people don’t give a fuck about the punishment for carrying a knife Increasing stop and search creates more issues so the cycle repeats itself Not just police on the streets. It's a change of mentality within the population. As I was suggesting before, as long as there are a number of apologists for this behaviour, it won't be stopped. Doesn't matter what ethnic background people are from, unless it is deemed right and proper that a minimum standard of behaviour is required- a social covenant if you like, then the circle continues. Got to break the chain somewhere. All kids get the same basic education opportunity, health care etc, yet we are bombarded with stories of woe from one group or another daily. But with rights come responsibilities: for me far more emphasis is needed on restorative punishment. Visible, physical work that improves communities and actually gives them a sense of purpose and gets them tired! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Zico said: to be honest, I don't really care if gangs want to shoot/stab each other, if they were to promise to leave "innocent" folk alone, they could crack on in all seriousness though (I was only being slightly serious in the last sentance), they need to look at things like how they cleaned up New York in the 80s/90s and see what works and what doesn't it may have gone too far though and never be sorted, but some effort has to be demonstrably made and if it doesn't work, so long as they only kill each other one way to try and sort it out is if you're caught in possession of a knife, without a very, very good reason, then straight off to clink for 6 months. Caught for a second time, then death penalty. Sadly, it'll never happen. Although, with regards to being caught in possession, I hear they're a bit cleverer now, especially on some of these estates, where they have literally dozens of knives hidden in hedges and gardens that they have very easy access to, so when they're sitting around, deciding who they want to rape, mug or murder, they're never more than a few feet away from the weapon that's easily accessible. So worst case, if they get stopped in a stop and search, they'll not be caught with anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySanchez Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Zico said: to be honest, I don't really care if gangs want to shoot/stab each other, if they were to promise to leave "innocent" folk alone, they could crack on in all seriousness though (I was only being slightly serious in the last sentance), they need to look at things like how they cleaned up New York in the 80s/90s and see what works and what doesn't it may have gone too far though and never be sorted, but some effort has to be demonstrably made and if it doesn't work, so long as they only kill each other For one day only, turn Hyde Park into a gladiatorial colosseum. Invite every wannabe gangster to a no holes barred royal rumble style fight and let them get it off their chest Dead bodies get chucked in the serpentine and the winner gets to keep a swan and called king of the manor I did email Sadiq about this and he hasn’t replied so can only assume he’s still thinking about it. Seriously though, with NY style crackdowns it may only push the problem elsewhere so whilst it might be solved in London, Watford could become a knife crime hotspot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySanchez Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 5 minutes ago, Sweep said: one way to try and sort it out is if you're caught in possession of a knife, without a very, very good reason, then straight off to clink for 6 months. Caught for a second time, then death penalty. Sadly, it'll never happen. Although, with regards to being caught in possession, I hear they're a bit cleverer now, especially on some of these estates, where they have literally dozens of knives hidden in hedges and gardens that they have very easy access to, so when they're sitting around, deciding who they want to rape, mug or murder, they're never more than a few feet away from the weapon that's easily accessible. So worst case, if they get stopped in a stop and search, they'll not be caught with anything. Problem with that is prison space. No doubt the people who are all in favour of it wouldn’t want a prison built near them to lock up the people they want in prison Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 10 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Not just police on the streets. It's a change of mentality within the population. As I was suggesting before, as long as there are a number of apologists for this behaviour, it won't be stopped. Doesn't matter what ethnic background people are from, unless it is deemed right and proper that a minimum standard of behaviour is required- a social covenant if you like, then the circle continues. Got to break the chain somewhere. All kids get the same basic education opportunity, health care etc, yet we are bombarded with stories of woe from one group or another daily. But with rights come responsibilities: for me far more emphasis is needed on restorative punishment. Visible, physical work that improves communities and actually gives them a sense of purpose and gets them tired! Need to look at how Glasgow broke the circle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted June 2, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted June 2, 2021 2 hours ago, miamiwhite said: Have a watch of this tomorrow fella, you'll see there's a whole unreported world outside your window. https://twitter.com/Jefferson_MFG/status/1400041281053761563?s=19 My window is currently a view across Ullswater to Hellvelyn and the breathlessly beautiful Lake District mountains. I have a beer and meat grilling close by. The unreported world can go fuck itself ❤️❤️✌️✌️✌️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 6 hours ago, miamiwhite said: Check the latest Brexit approval rating.....70% positive. You and the other 29% keep clutching at straws fella. We should all remember the phrase attributed to Nazi propagandist Joseph Goebbels – “A lie told once remains a lie, but a lie told a thousand times becomes the truth” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted June 2, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted June 2, 2021 16 minutes ago, boltondiver said: We should all remember the phrase attributed to Dominic Cummings – “A lie told once remains a lie, but a lie told a thousand times becomes the truth” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted June 2, 2021 Author Share Posted June 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Spider said: My window is currently a view across Ullswater to Hellvelyn and the breathlessly beautiful Lake District mountains. I have a beer and meat grilling close by. The unreported world can go fuck itself ❤️❤️✌️✌️✌️ Good man, you've got the weather for it 👍 Have a good un matey and stop worrying about all the investment flooding into Britain 🇬🇧 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MancWanderer Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 1 hour ago, mickbrown said: Need to look at how Glasgow broke the circle. Very good point 2 hours ago, Sweep said: Although, with regards to being caught in possession, I hear they're a bit cleverer now, especially on some of these estates, where they have literally dozens of knives hidden in hedges and gardens that they have very easy access to, so when they're sitting around, deciding who they want to rape, mug or murder, they're never more than a few feet away from the weapon that's easily accessible. So worst case, if they get stopped in a stop and search, they'll not be caught with anything. Yep. After a lad was stabbed outside a pub near here a couple of years ago the coppers ran a campaign on social media. Swept the area every day and posted a photo each day asking if you could see the knife. Fucking unbelievable how many they found and how difficult they were to spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySanchez Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 1 hour ago, boltondiver said: We should all remember the phrase attributed to Nazi propagandist Joseph Goebbels – “A lie told once remains a lie, but a lie told a thousand times becomes the truth” “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.” If you’re going to use the quote, use it properly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted June 3, 2021 Author Share Posted June 3, 2021 A bit more saucy news for Spider to push it real good ... 🧂 🌶 https://twitter.com/FactoryNOW_/status/1400330725392621569?s=19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 14 hours ago, DirtySanchez said: “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.” If you’re going to use the quote, use it properly Will do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted June 3, 2021 Author Share Posted June 3, 2021 The peace loving left up to their old tricks yet again. Cue the excuses and more buts than a spluttering speedboat 🚤 🙄 https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1400266501601513475?s=19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 https://www.csis.org/analysis/war-comes-home-evolution-domestic-terrorism-united-states Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 18 minutes ago, miamiwhite said: The peace loving left up to their old tricks yet again. Cue the excuses and more buts than a spluttering speedboat 🚤 🙄 https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1400266501601513475?s=19 If you go searching for examples of violence, from left, right or fucking centre, you'll find it. Close Twitter and relax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted June 3, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted June 3, 2021 Twitter. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted June 3, 2021 Author Share Posted June 3, 2021 1 hour ago, mickbrown said: If you go searching for examples of violence, from left, right or fucking centre, you'll find it. Close Twitter and relax. Struggling to find any from the right at present fella 😉 Take some valium and calm down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted June 3, 2021 Author Share Posted June 3, 2021 As mentioned yesterday, Johnson and Khan really do need to work together and address this issue ASAP before the old bill lose even more of a grip of the streets. https://twitter.com/MPFed/status/1400336525305565186?s=19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted June 3, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted June 3, 2021 Let’s go down a Twitter hole then https://twitter.com/otto_english/status/1400213919424208899?s=21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted June 3, 2021 Author Share Posted June 3, 2021 Link not loading unfortunately, sack the MODs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted June 3, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted June 3, 2021 The ENGLISH football league have kicked Mitre - the English manufacturer - out and replaced them with GERMANS to supply footballs. Liz Truss hasn’t commented on it I notice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted June 3, 2021 Author Share Posted June 3, 2021 16 minutes ago, Spider said: The ENGLISH football league have kicked Mitre - the English manufacturer - out and replaced them with GERMANS to supply footballs. Liz Truss hasn’t commented on it I notice. Balls to them ⚽️ This isn't in the slightest bit related to Brexit, but an excellent piece to interest the fans of aviation on here and a cracking name on the nose for @spider and myself to wrestle over https://twitter.com/tomiahonen/status/1400426512222916612?s=19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted June 3, 2021 Author Share Posted June 3, 2021 Bloody hell, this is awful, those poor kids screaming https://twitter.com/CrimeLdn/status/1400315955297796096?s=19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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