Ani Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 6 minutes ago, Escobarp said: Let’s not forget. They did this because they had a remain majority parliament. So effectively they were steering the process towards a known outcome which suited there own aims at that time. This was nothing to do with democracy. Although I think your point is very valid. that all got ripped out when Boris won such a large majority. Why isn’t Miller lauding the new deal given it will be ratified by parliament as she wished? Do you think she will be applauding from the sidelines? Or mysteriously silent? No she celebrated winning the case to get the right process in place. The outcome might not be what she wanted but it makes the outcome stronger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 1 minute ago, crawshawbooth said: Farage knew the mood of the country , but was big enough to stand back and give Boris the large majority we needed to leave the club Farage did whatever his financial backers told him to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 Just now, Ani said: No she celebrated winning the case to get the right process in place. The outcome might not be what she wanted but it makes the outcome stronger. Ok. Question. If parliament had been a massive leave majority. Would she have done it? Would she have gone to those lengths to “ensure due process”? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 According to the BBC the EU has begun a co-ordinated vaccine rollout to fight covid-19 in what the blocs top official says is "a touching moment of unity" Some countries started administering the jabs on Saturday saying they weren't prepared to wait another day. Yep perfect EU unity! ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted December 27, 2020 Author Share Posted December 27, 2020 Whereas we didn't have to wait for them 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crawshawbooth Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 11 minutes ago, Ani said: Farage did whatever his financial backers told him to do. so , he did what was needed dont understand your point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 12 minutes ago, Escobarp said: Ok. Question. If parliament had been a massive leave majority. Would she have done it? Would she have gone to those lengths to “ensure due process”? As you would mate I will say I can not know what she would have done. I could glibly say ‘yes’ but I just do not know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, crawshawbooth said: so , he did what was needed dont understand your point It was not his decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 Just now, Ani said: As you would mate I will say I can not know what she would have done. I could glibly say ‘yes’ but I just do not know. Yes but what do you believe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 13 minutes ago, H said: According to the BBC the EU has begun a co-ordinated vaccine rollout to fight covid-19 in what the blocs top official says is "a touching moment of unity" Some countries started administering the jabs on Saturday saying they weren't prepared to wait another day. Yep perfect EU unity! ! The idea you should delay the launch of a vaccine so it looks unified sums up one of the things wrong with the EU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crawshawbooth Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Ani said: It was not his decision. how do you know that ? did you ask him ? ever met him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted December 27, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted December 27, 2020 Crawshaw’s in a mood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Escobarp said: Yes but what do you believe? I honestly have no idea. I worked for a while in Social Housing and was regularly amazed by how often Liberals would get hung up more about the principle than the outcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 1 minute ago, crawshawbooth said: how do you know that ? did you ask him ? ever met him? How is his party funded ? Do you think the people funding his party would have a say on the party strategy ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crawshawbooth Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Spider said: Crawshaw’s in a mood probably am tonight but as you know i stood for UKIP it wasnt keyboard warrior stuff , i did the meetings and pushed stuff thro doors from Rawtenstall to Burnley because i believed in it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ani said: I honestly have no idea. I worked for a while in Social Housing and was regularly amazed by how often Liberals would get hung up more about the principle than the outcome. Fair enough. It is at the end of the just about opinion. As you correctly stated none of us know in reality Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted December 27, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted December 27, 2020 1 minute ago, crawshawbooth said: probably am tonight but as you know i stood for UKIP it wasnt keyboard warrior stuff , i did the meetings and pushed stuff thro doors from Rawtenstall to Burnley because i believed in it I actually didn’t know that. Fair play 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crawshawbooth Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Ani said: How is his party funded ? Do you think the people funding his party would have a say on the party strategy ? it is funded through donations like all political parties or unions some of it was my brass my point was he stepped aside to give buffoon Boris his majority Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted December 27, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted December 27, 2020 5 minutes ago, crawshawbooth said: probably am tonight but as you know i stood for UKIP it wasnt keyboard warrior stuff , i did the meetings and pushed stuff thro doors from Rawtenstall to Burnley because i believed in it hahaha how many votes did you get? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crawshawbooth Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 Just now, Spider said: I actually didn’t know that. Fair play 👍 not playing Billy Big bollocks because i know this stuff affects every family in different ways it is just what i felt about the UK back then i knew the night of the big vote the BBC were going to be so far of course it would be embarrassing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Cheese said: hahaha how many votes did you get? Why is it funny? Because someone believed in something enough to do something about it rather than hide behind a keyboard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, crawshawbooth said: it is funded through donations like all political parties or unions some of it was my brass my point was he stepped aside to give buffoon Boris his majority Fair play to you. The speed of growth of UKIP was too fast to be funded by ‘normal’ donations such as yours. The likes of Aaron Banks stick upto £1m in the pot gives them a massive say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crawshawbooth Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 Just now, Cheese said: hahaha how many votes did you get? was council, so not national pretty much a 3 way split but i was the best person for that ward but if you dont stand on the ticket part of society are disenfranchised which a lot of people in this country would be ok with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted December 27, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted December 27, 2020 1 minute ago, crawshawbooth said: was council, so not national pretty much a 3 way split but i was the best person for that ward but if you dont stand on the ticket part of society are disenfranchised which a lot of people in this country would be ok with Wouldn’t be my choice but fair fucks to you for sticking your head on the block and doing the yards. ignore cheese, he dropped a boom earlier with the tweet and is upset no one responded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youri McAnespie Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 52 minutes ago, crawshawbooth said: Yourie lad you need to get onto any new breweries trying to grow next year with your descriptions i can see you as editor for Booze Weekly there must be a living out there with your stuff can you get me a case of Colostomy bag at a decent price 😌 For you a crate of Keel's could be £378 (50% reduction). I always fancied the post of Chief Editor of 'Shitfaced for a Tenner Weekly'... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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