Salford Trotter Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 18 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Everything to do with remainers negotiating the deal up to present, remainers entirely at fault for where we are today. Always looking for someone else to blame when it goes wrong. I suspect we'll be hearing a lot more of these excuses when the road gets rocky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrelli Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 20 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Everything to do with remainers negotiating the deal up to present, remainers entirely at fault for where we are today. Utter tripe as usual. The ERG could have backed TM's deal and it would have stood a much better chance. David Davis, Dominic Raab were both Brexit Ministers and closely involved in the EU negotiations. Why did they not negotiate a better deal ? These are all brexiteers that have significantly contributed to the position we find ourselves in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Farrelli said: Utter tripe as usual. The ERG could have backed TM's deal and it would have stood a much better chance. David Davis, Dominic Raab were both Brexit Ministers and closely involved in the EU negotiations. Why did they not negotiate a better deal ? These are all brexiteers that have significantly contributed to the position we find ourselves in. Aye let’s chuck blame at folk who are trying to protect our country, folk who want the best deal possible, rather than folk who want a bad deal so that they can attempt to overturn democracy. Edited July 12, 2019 by Mounts Kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter fatolive Posted July 12, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted July 12, 2019 26 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Aye let’s chuck blame at folk who are trying to protect our country, folk who want the best deal possible, rather than folk who want a bad deal so that they can attempt to overturn democracy. to be fair, earlier on in this thread you blamed Labour for the mess for not voting for the WA agreement as then we could have moved on to the next stage, but the brexiteers who didnt vote for it are saving the country? the WA may have been shit in some peoples opinion, but the lack of progress cant just be blamed on remainers or leavers , everyone fucked it off for different reasons? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salford Trotter Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 37 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Aye let’s chuck blame at folk who are trying to protect our country, folk who want the best deal possible, rather than folk who want a bad deal so that they can attempt to overturn democracy. Protect our country? You actually believe folk actually want a bad deal so they can stick two fingers up to Leavers, you really are unreal You are the one that's prepared to go 'no deal' and say "tough shit" to those that lose their jobs as a result, I've heard it all now🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon boy Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 2 hours ago, bwfcfan5 said: This is the sort of mantra the Nazis had. Suffer for the greater good of Germany. How many people dying is too many for Brexit to be worth it? ‘NAZIS’ for fucks sake. ‘People dying’, people die everyday You, Cheese, ST and a.n. other are like the Four Horseman of the Apocalypse. Instead of Doom and Gloom trust the ingenuity and intelligence of your fellow Brits to make a success of Brexit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrelli Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 50 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Aye let’s chuck blame at folk who are trying to protect our country, folk who want the best deal possible, rather than folk who want a bad deal so that they can attempt to overturn democracy. You've really lost it Mounts. JRM and his pals could not care less about the country, they have an ideology and do not care about the repercussions. Swivel eyed loonies like Mark Francois. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, Farrelli said: You've really lost it Mounts. JRM and his pals could not care less about the country, they have an ideology and do not care about the repercussions. Swivel eyed loonies like Mark Francois. What ideology might that be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 8 minutes ago, Moon boy said: ‘NAZIS’ for fucks sake. ‘People dying’, people die everyday You, Cheese, ST and a.n. other are like the Four Horseman of the Apocalypse. Instead of Doom and Gloom trust the ingenuity and intelligence of your fellow Brits to make a success of Brexit People die every day but that isn't a good reason to go to war and kill loads more. If the Brexiteers are running the shop and that is the level of ingenuity and intelligence we have to look forward to then I think the situation is even worse than it is now. The fact that seemingly cutting our noses off from a single market that has improved the economic prosperity of this country by orders of magnitude for vague promises with absolutely no details. Perhaps you could explain exactly what huge benefits and opportunities will present themselves. And by that I mean things that will grow our GDP, add jobs to the economy, improve our environmental standards, widen opportunity and develop our public services.....can you give the real and detailed examples of what these things will be and when. I mean specifically. I'm not interested in "we can make deals with other countries". Because currently we have trade deals through the EU with a lot of third party countries and its ever growing. I'm not interested in being America's bitch and lowering our standards as a result just to exist. So given that can you explain in detail and precisely, what and when these opportunities (that are better and will overcompensate for the loss of arrangements we have now) are? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, boltondiver said: What ideology might that be? Right wing populism and euroscepticism. I'm not sure its an ideology for JRM. He just wants to get rich on the backs of ignorant plebs. But Francois is stupid enough to think he has some ideology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrelli Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 1 minute ago, boltondiver said: What ideology might that be? Anti-EU, anti-immigrant, anti-trading bloc, anti-UK union. In fact it's an ideology that belongs in 1940. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted July 12, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted July 12, 2019 26 minutes ago, Moon boy said: ‘NAZIS’ for fucks sake. ‘People dying’, people die everyday You, Cheese, ST and a.n. other are like the Four Horseman of the Apocalypse. Instead of Doom and Gloom trust the ingenuity and intelligence of your fellow Brits to make a success of Brexit Please, tell us what you are going to actually "do" differently after Brexit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted July 12, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted July 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said: Another drama queen.... Nazis😂 folk dying😂🤣😂 Absofuckinlutely. Perhaps a weekend break in Yemen might bring a sense of reality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 13 minutes ago, Cheese said: Please, tell us what you are going to actually "do" differently after Brexit? Well we wont be dying or ruled by Nazis on November 1st... but let’s have it right your question is plain stupid... par for the course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 1 hour ago, fatolive said: to be fair, earlier on in this thread you blamed Labour for the mess for not voting for the WA agreement as then we could have moved on to the next stage, but the brexiteers who didnt vote for it are saving the country? the WA may have been shit in some peoples opinion, but the lack of progress cant just be blamed on remainers or leavers , everyone fucked it off for different reasons? Some folk voted to try and engineer an election, some voted to try to ensure we remain, while the majority of the ERG voted on a principle to get the best leaving deal for the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 36 minutes ago, Farrelli said: Anti-EU, anti-immigrant, anti-trading bloc, anti-UK union. In fact it's an ideology that belongs in 1940. I don’t agree your diagnosis, mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted July 12, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted July 12, 2019 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Well we wont be dying or ruled by Nazis on November 1st... but let’s have it right your question is plain stupid... par for the course. The statement "trust the ingenuity and intelligence of your fellow Brits to make a success of Brexit" - along with similar statements you've made yourself - implies that we can all actually DO things to make Brexit a success. So please, explain what these things are? What are YOU going to do? Edited July 12, 2019 by Cheese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Cheese said: The statement "trust the ingenuity and intelligence of your fellow Brits to make a success of Brexit" - along with similar statements you've made yourself - implies that we can all actually DO things to make Brexit a success. So please, explain what these things are? What are YOU going to do? I’m not going to do anything other than reflect in the beauty of leaving the EU and continuing to succeed personally and watching our country thrive outside of the EU. It’s going to be lovely, watching remainers squirm when all their predictions of abyss, catastrophic, cliff edge all disappear like the morning mist. Edited July 12, 2019 by Mounts Kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted July 12, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted July 12, 2019 Just now, Mounts Kipper said: I’m not going to do anything other than reflect in the beauty of leaving the EU and continuing to succeed personally and watching our country thrive outside of the EU. It’s going to be lovely. So nothing. What is it you expect other people to do in order to make Brexit a success then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 11 minutes ago, boltondiver said: I don’t agree your diagnosis, mate Indeed. In 1940 everyone was far more progressive than the selfish baby boomers are now.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 I can guarantee that if a situation comes to pass where people can't get their prescription medicines the Brexit drones will say "yes we knew there'd be some hardship but it'll all be worth it". What's fascinating is that now they'll either deny that there will ever be an issue with medicines OR they'll try and make out that suggesting people might die is "ludicrous". IF it happens though - IF - what level of deaths is acceptable in order to exit the EU? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said: Indeed. In 1940 everyone was far more progressive than the selfish baby boomers are now.... Didn’t have you down as being so old to remember the culture of 1940 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 13 minutes ago, Cheese said: So nothing. What is it you expect other people to do in order to make Brexit a success then? What other people are you talking about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted July 12, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted July 12, 2019 20 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: What other people are you talking about? Everyone who you expect to "do" things that will make Brexit a success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youri McAnespie Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 Now 'Let's Give £350m a Week to The NHS Instead' is getting a bit tired, Brexshitters need a new catchphrase, how about... Brexit Britain - Better Than War-Torn Yemen. © ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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