Underpants Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 (edited) I know there's a thread about this but I can't find it. Watching the Stuttgart Vs Cologne match on BT. Ref has had to use the VAR on a penalty decision late in the game. He ended up reversing his decision and not awarding the pen to Cologne. Took nearly 4 mins from the original penalty to the drop ball. Even then there was still a debate to be had that it was a penalty. This will suck then life out if the game, and the terraces, if this is how it's going to be. AMF. Edited October 14, 2017 by Underpants Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 That's always been my problem with it. Penalty decisions are always subjective. Goal line technology fair enough - its black and white - but foul play is difficult to interpret - even more so when the footage is slowed down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghana White Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 In principle i think it's a great idea. In practice though like shown above it doesn't work. FIFA should be paying more attention to getting rid of diving and play acting by imposing harsh punishments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youri McAnespie Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Getting rid of diving and playacting won't allow the shoehorning in of adverts into televised games - jsl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Clear forward pass in last weeks grand final the ref didn't refer it so try was given the video referee should have communicated that to the on field ref so that try could have been reversed other wise why have them? In the case of the German penalty ref should give penalty and it should be taken while the video referee reviews it if it's inconclusive the on field decision should stand only if it's blatantly wrong decision which should only take 20 seconds to decide should bit be changed. My view is the video referee should only act in clear cases of a mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Lofthouse Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 The death of football as we know it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyther_Matt Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 More than happy with the goal line technology over here but anything that needs the game to be stopped is a no from me, and that's as someone who was initially in favour of it. Clear forward pass in last weeks grand final the ref didn't refer it so try was given the video referee should have communicated that to the on field ref so that try could have been reversed other wise why have them? In the case of the German penalty ref should give penalty and it should be taken while the video referee reviews it if it's inconclusive the on field decision should stand only if it's blatantly wrong decision which should only take 20 seconds to decide should bit be changed. My view is the video referee should only act in clear cases of a mistake.The video referee isn't allowed to make a decision on a forward pass in RL because the camera angle isn't dead in line with the player passing the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underpants Posted October 14, 2017 Author Share Posted October 14, 2017 Just like in cricket this VAR system will be abused. Goal line decisions, nothing else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deane koontz Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Yeah, goal line technology I'm okay with. The rest can fuck right off. Football is about a human touch. But they'll carry on tinkering and one day we might get robbed of calling the ref a cunt and a wanker. Sad days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 More than happy with the goal line technology over here but anything that needs the game to be stopped is a no from me, and that's as someone who was initially in favour of it. The video referee isn't allowed to make a decision on a forward pass in RL because the camera angle isn't dead in line with the player passing the ball. That might be so but neither is on field referee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Massive no for me. I fear a future where I don't like football anymore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Massive no for me. I fear a future where I don't like football anymore I think I'm already there. I only watch Bolton now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 I think I'm already there. I only watch Bolton now. Its deffo going that way. I'll have other games on but I'm finding I'm not watching them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Massive no for me. I fear a future where I don't like football anymore You can go and shoot game instead pal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted October 15, 2017 Share Posted October 15, 2017 You can go and shoot game instead pal???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underpants Posted January 28, 2018 Author Share Posted January 28, 2018 (edited) Liverpool Vs WBA last night reinforced my opinion that VAR is a passion killer. Edited January 28, 2018 by Underpants Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medwaywhite Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 If it comes to the correct decision not bothered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 I think in rugby it works fine as the same passion and fervour isn’t there from supporters and that’s coming from someone who follows rugby closely. But football does something to you that no other sport does and VAR is simply going to spoil the game. I was an advocate of it and thought it might work but it can’t and will ruin the game as a spectacle. What we need to do though is stop the witch hunt on officials who make a mistake as ultimately that is why it’s being brought in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medwaywhite Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 The game has had the life took out of it already no tackling hardly any contact I’m from the old school , a good man and ball was as good as a good goal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrelli Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 In general, I think VAR will help the bigger clubs as the refs will be under pressure to give them marginal decisions. It won't be going away though. I wonder if the day will come when we are driving back celebrating a 2-1 away win somewhere and we hear on five live that after a VAR review we have actually lost 3-2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Alf Hartigan Posted January 28, 2018 Site Supporter Share Posted January 28, 2018 Gonzo's started an online petition to get rid, I know it'll make fuck all difference but I've signed it. It's on the Todays Games thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Biggish Dave Posted January 28, 2018 Site Supporter Share Posted January 28, 2018 I’ve tried to get Gazza to retweet it but don’t know how to attach the link. If something like that happens, it could gain momentum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted January 28, 2018 Site Supporter Share Posted January 28, 2018 Punishments for diving need to be increased to ten games, 15 if an appeal fails. It’s the only way to stop them doing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazBob Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Any player who gestures for the referee to review should get an instant red card. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 https://www.change.org/p/martin-glenn-fa-stop-var-ruining-english-football?recruiter=21410126&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink&utm_campaign=share_petition Get this signed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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