tomski Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 8 hours ago, Leyther_Matt said: Dangerously low expectations I suppose, but for me KA is delivering every week that we remain in business at the minute. That is a very low expectation I agree. I find the whole thing a joke and the reality is that I'm seeing loyal mates drop like flies watching or losing interest in a greater rate than I've ever seen before. I fear the damage could be far greater than we think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boltondirtbag Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 51 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said: Probably be 2 outgoing, O'Neill and Ireland, if they're out of contract Be surprised if the latter gets an extension (Unless there's an agent's fee) I know ken did not mention him but is Dyer not out of contract in January? If he is bye bye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Ireland played an hour for the U-23's last night. Will be in squad on Saturday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big E Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 4 hours ago, tomski said: That is a very low expectation I agree. I find the whole thing a joke and the reality is that I'm seeing loyal mates drop like flies watching or losing interest in a greater rate than I've ever seen before. I fear the damage could be far greater than we think. thats what happens when you are a manc and have manc friends Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Saw a screenshot of Ken’s worth today, says he’s worth £9m. That’s while everyone around him in the list are worth a minimum of £250m. That in football club owner terms is fuck all. He’s skint. He’d have to sell everything he owns just to buy one of Middlesbrough’s substitutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 10 minutes ago, gonzo said: Saw a screenshot of Ken’s worth today, says he’s worth £9m. That’s while everyone around him in the list are worth a minimum of £250m. That in football club owner terms is fuck all. He’s skint. He’d have to sell everything he owns just to buy one of Middlesbrough’s substitutes. Indeed and that doesn't mean he has £9M in his bank account. He doesn't have enough cash to cover our annual shortfall. It has been clear for a while. We will lose 3M this year - no way can he cover it. So will need raising somehow..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 18 minutes ago, gonzo said: Saw a screenshot of Ken’s worth today, says he’s worth £9m. That’s while everyone around him in the list are worth a minimum of £250m. That in football club owner terms is fuck all. He’s skint. He’d have to sell everything he owns just to buy one of Middlesbrough’s substitutes. You have to ask yourself why did he get involved then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 5 minutes ago, tomski said: You have to ask yourself why did he get involved then? Must of done his homework you’d thought when he paps on about crowds it’s like he’s looking at another clubs attendances seems shocked we don’t get more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted December 11, 2018 Site Supporter Share Posted December 11, 2018 He's obviously out of his depth Doesn't mean he's not trying. I'm sure he'd be off like a shot if anyone was even vaguely serious about buying. As it is, his name is above the door so he needs to stick around until he doesn't have to, or is told he can't. The choice doesn't strike me as being his alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 26 minutes ago, tomski said: You have to ask yourself why did he get involved then? Bought it for a pound. He clearly thought he could slash costs, get the club promoted then sell it. Without putting much if any cash in himself. Nice tidy profit. He misjudged the situation in many ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazBob Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 14 hours ago, tomski said: I think I’m fairly balanced on this. Roflbrothel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 20 minutes ago, DazBob said: Roflbrothel. How so? If I think a point is valid I’ll happlily say I was wrong. I don’t like the bloke. I’ve never hidden that after giving him an initial try? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 42 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said: Bought it for a pound. He clearly thought he could slash costs, get the club promoted then sell it. Without putting much if any cash in himself. Nice tidy profit. He misjudged the situation in many ways. Exactly. The question is misjudged or been poor at his job is where I’m at? Deffo think he was sold a dud. Anyone taking the terms laid out with future add ons etc. But I suppose that’s why he got the call. It has failed though I feel whoever you blame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazBob Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 6 minutes ago, tomski said: How so? If I think a point is valid I’ll happlily say I was wrong. I don’t like the bloke. I’ve never hidden that after giving him an initial try? Lolcano. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sluffy Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 1 hour ago, gonzo said: Saw a screenshot of Ken’s worth today, says he’s worth £9m. That’s while everyone around him in the list are worth a minimum of £250m. That in football club owner terms is fuck all. He’s skint. He’d have to sell everything he owns just to buy one of Middlesbrough’s substitutes. There is a list on Wikipedia (link below) which shows owners of clubs and indeed shows Ken Anderson as being worth $9 million (rather than £9 million). HOWEVER When you click on the source reference to the $9 million (it is shown as the little number '40' next to it and can be found at the bottom of that page), it takes you to Ken Anderson, a former American footballer (whose worth is shown as $16 million anyway)! So I would question how accurate the information is you've seen and no doubt taken as gospel by some/many on social media (obviously not by you!). (There is also a Ken Anderson, American wrestler too who may/may not be worth $9 million - but I've not looked to see how much he's estimated to be). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_owners_of_English_football_clubs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_owners_of_English_football_clubs#cite_note-40 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted December 11, 2018 Moderators Share Posted December 11, 2018 55 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said: Bought it for a pound. He clearly thought he could slash costs, get the club promoted then sell it. Without putting much if any cash in himself. Nice tidy profit. He misjudged the situation in many ways. seems that way but, I thought I recalled that he had the club on the market, then took it off and said he was only looking for investment had a search, all I could find was this: https://www.bwfc.co.uk/news/2018/july/a-note-from-the-chairman4/ I would also like to keep you updated on matters concerning investment into the club. I want to make it clear that we have never proactively approached any party or sought to sell the club. which, unless I've misunderstood, is at odds with the brochure that was produced 6 months earlier saying the club was for sale https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/15579837.for-sale-bolton-wanderers-available-for-25million/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 It was like an episode of Homes under the Hammer. Small-time housing portfolio holder sees rundown semi up for grabs for below perceived market value. Tart the place up (ie cut running costs & debts) Flip it for a profit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_spencer Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Sluffy said: (There is also a Ken Anderson, American wrestler too who may/may not be worth $9 million - but I've not looked to see how much he's estimated to be). Better known as Mr Ken Kennedy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 If we are going to be back on an ‘even keel’ when the January money drops in surely our bank would float us for a few weeks? I’m sure they would with a directors guarantee attached. Makes me think that things still won’t be quite ‘even keel’ after the money lands and we will likely need to find more money somehow to see us through to the end of the season vs our current YTG forecast With that in mind it seems crazy that we’ve taken this Dooge lad from FGR, even if it’s only say £500k that’s due it’s still the thick end of a month’s wages. It’s getting on for as crazy as the when we gave Ben Amos that contract months before the money dried up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc505 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 5 hours ago, gonzo said: Saw a screenshot of Ken’s worth today, says he’s worth £9m. That’s while everyone around him in the list are worth a minimum of £250m. That in football club owner terms is fuck all. He’s skint. He’d have to sell everything he owns just to buy one of Middlesbrough’s substitutes. Says all anyone need to know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Mental Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomRepWanderer Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 The only way any club will make money is getting to the Premier league, so buying lower Championship or below won't be on a list of wannabe owners with deep pockets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalcolmW Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 11 minutes ago, DomRepWanderer said: The only way any club will make money is getting to the Premier league, so buying lower Championship or below won't be on a list of wannabe owners with deep pockets. Except for money laundering purposes, which nowadays would lead to other problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted December 11, 2018 Site Supporter Share Posted December 11, 2018 Maybe it's time for the league, fa, clubs etc to get together once and for all, and put something together, such that they can't be suffering in this way. Ultimately, they all have to stop paying over the odds to buy players and pay their wages. Not sure it will ever happen though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc505 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 17 minutes ago, Mr Grey said: 9m and he wears fucking tank tops! Money can't buy you taste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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