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9 minutes ago, Underpants said:

Collectively i don't think we have. Back in the other dark days the players got paid and we even had dark mild on sale at he ground.

 

OINO

But did they, we had no way to know back then, the fans got told fuck all. When we have another lifeline and a supermarket built on part of the ground then yes we are back to those dark days

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9 minutes ago, tyldesley_white said:

But did they, we had no way to know back then, the fans got told fuck all. When we have another lifeline and a supermarket built on part of the ground then yes we are back to those dark days

Im not in the game of guessing what we didn't know back then. I'll leave that to others. But let's say the ignorance was bliss. Best time of my life following us then. I wish I was as ignorant about things now so I could enjoy it just half as much. Maybe we should form TR18

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2 minutes ago, Underpants said:

Im not in the game of guessing what we didn't know back then. I'll leave that to others. But let's say the ignorance was bliss. Best time of my life following us then. I wish I was as ignorant about things now so I could enjoy it just half as much. Maybe we should form TR18

Couldn't agree more with you , but the game and all things associated with it have changed, most of it not for the better

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Normid. Gordon Sharrock. Ian Moores. Burnden literally crumbling apart under our feet. Div 4

Always said things would never be worse

This current situation may or may not be worse but social media has made it far more toxic. Never had a problem with Iles tbh until now but his shit-stirring, along with the Twittermongs, is dividing Wanderers more than the fucking In Or Out thread on here

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14 minutes ago, MancWanderer said:

Normid. Gordon Sharrock. Ian Moores. Burnden literally crumbling apart under our feet. Div 4

Always said things would never be worse

This current situation may or may not be worse but social media has made it far more toxic. Never had a problem with Iles tbh until now but his shit-stirring, along with the Twittermongs, is dividing Wanderers more than the fucking In Or Out thread on here

Aye, that was my point about Iles. He’s had a job to do, but he’s going way beyond his remit now. 

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8 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

NgWhat is?

Iles on his wind up missions, Ken on his public arguments, or a jocular comment from me based on their respective retorts.

Iles may have his own agenda and that's for him to live with.

Ken, despite his obvious efforts and some successes is increasingly causing some concern with his methodology.

Sadly, I'm losing interest in it all, it's neverending. I do wonder what would have happened had we gone into administration earlier and started again; may have been better in the long run.

 

Is exactly where I (and a number of other season ticket holders) am at the moment. Normally the football would outshine the behind the scenes shit, sadly it's as bad on the pitch as on it. 

I pay for 2 season tickets by DD so am doing my bit in supportIng the club, the effort of going a "home" game is just too much at the moment, as can't sit and listen to some of the shit spouted from others (possibly Trust brigade or Twitter Twats) end  up wanting to tell them to fuck off.

We need a new owner / investor (quick), KA is the only way of us achieving this, whatever your thoughts are without KA we are fucked. The Trust have less money or means and are purely a "noise" in the background. 

it ain't rocket science. 

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15 minutes ago, gonzo said:

 

Marc iles has been busy 

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That's the closest we've ever come to a protest about anything.

Edited by Marc505

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Someone is short of a towel this morning

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18 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said:

If there was no ACV Ken could sell the stadium, pocket the money and put the club under, in fact that could have been his plan A. 

 

I do not always agree with the ST but I praise them for getting the stadium listed as an ACV.   

The ST has asked ken to remove barriers to a sale.

The ACV is a barrier to a sale.

Rinse & repeat.

 

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12 minutes ago, ZiggyStardust said:

The ST has asked ken to remove barriers to a sale.

The ACV is a barrier to a sale.

Rinse & repeat.

 

Is it though? I’d say it isn’t a barrier at all, plenty clubs have been sold with an ACV, the ACV only allows notification of sale of the asset before the asset is sold and gives the trust or the community the option to purchase the stadium before any other interested parties, should the trust or community not have the wherewithal then the owner of the club can still sell the asset.  Any how why would any potential owner with the club at heart want to sell the stadium anyhow? 

I’d suggest the barrier to the sale of the club is the asking price. 

Edited by Mounts Kipper

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25 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

 

Is it though? I’d say it isn’t a barrier at all, plenty clubs have been sold with an ACV, the ACV only allows notification of sale of the asset before the asset is sold and gives the trust or the community the option to purchase the stadium before any other interested parties, should the trust or community not have the wherewithal then the owner of the club can still sell the asset.  Any how why would any potential owner with the club at heart want to sell the stadium anyhow? 

I’d suggest the barrier to the sale of the club is the asking price. 

What's the asking price?

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2 hours ago, Ratwhite said:

Is exactly where I (and a number of other season ticket holders) am at the moment. Normally the football would outshine the behind the scenes shit, sadly it's as bad on the pitch as on it. 

I pay for 2 season tickets by DD so am doing my bit in supportIng the club, the effort of going a "home" game is just too much at the moment, as can't sit and listen to some of the shit spouted from others (possibly Trust brigade or Twitter Twats) end  up wanting to tell them to fuck off.

We need a new owner / investor (quick), KA is the only way of us achieving this, whatever your thoughts are without KA we are fucked. The Trust have less money or means and are purely a "noise" in the background. 

it ain't rocket science. 

Same here, two season tickets, and no interest.

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5 minutes ago, Spider said:

What's the asking price?

25 million +

Edited by Mounts Kipper

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The acv does fcuk all positive in the scheme of things

Yes, the intention to sell has to be announced, but there is no requirement for the owner to sell to anybody

The high net werthers could bid a billion more than anybody else and the owner could still sell to another bidder

 

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3 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

25 million +

How much of that is debt

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5 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

25 million +

How do you know that? Has KA stated that?

If so, it;s too much.

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Just now, Casino said:

How much of that is debt

Perhaps those who study our accounts might be able to put a better price on it than me but I’d suggest 20 million. 

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5 minutes ago, Spider said:

How do you know that? Has KA stated that?

If so, it;s too much.

There was a sale prospectus about 12 months ago that was leaked.

Edited by Mounts Kipper

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Iles is now a mouthpiece of the trust?

He’s trying his best to burn his boats. Does he want Xmas off of something?

Edited by mickbrown

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28 minutes ago, Casino said:

How much of that is debt

 

27 minutes ago, Spider said:

How do you know that? Has KA stated that?

If so, it;s too much.

https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/15579837.for-sale-bolton-wanderers-available-for-25million/

The £25m package includes total ownership of the Macron Stadium, 40-acre training ground at Lostock, Whites Hotel and Premier Suite.

The company will be sold with no structured debt and just normal trade creditors outstanding.

 

There was a rumour KA pockets £5M or so of this and that this had been a stumbling block to previous interest (in fact, it was Casino who told me)

Edited by ZicoKelly

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