bwfcfan5 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, Take Hunt Off said: Is he gagging for administration or playing hardball to the nth degree? Serious question How can you play hardball on a contract you signed and agreed to, just a few months ago? A football contract. It isn't like the caterers on a dodgy deal from before his time. HE signed the deal in August - what is there to play hardball on? Pay it or face the consequences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sluffy Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Just now, bwfcfan5 said: I don't believe he has any money in to claim back. So yes its not a bad outcome for him. However, it depends how likely he thinks it is he'll make a million or two from a sale. That's a lot to lose...otherwise admin within a few weeks I suspect. Don't know why you keep banging on that KA hasn't any money in the club? I've posted this up a few times now - Company House records show he definitely has. https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/00335699/charges/GnCI0RQaH-nQFud7B9qttO5D4gA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boothy Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 5 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said: How can you play hardball on a contract you signed and agreed to, just a few months ago? A football contract. It isn't like the caterers on a dodgy deal from before his time. HE signed the deal in August - what is there to play hardball on? Pay it or face the consequences. Easily. Play my way or you get 10p back in the £. Exactly like has been said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted January 7, 2019 Moderators Share Posted January 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, Sluffy said: Don't know why you keep banging on that KA hasn't any money in the club? I've posted this up a few times now - Company House records show he definitely has. https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/00335699/charges/GnCI0RQaH-nQFud7B9qttO5D4gA whereabouts does it show it? and how much? clicked the link to the PDF, can see it's a loan or something but it doesn't say how much is this what makes him a secured lender who will get him his money back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kane57 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 I have no idea if WW were consulted or considered or whatever but if you want to be then I'll happily put you in touch with the LOV leadership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted January 7, 2019 Moderators Share Posted January 7, 2019 33 minutes ago, L/H White said: #FGR chairman Dale Vince: “He said to me you can seek a winding up petition and you can bankrupt the club, I don’t care, I’m a secured lender I’ll get my money back” Lost for words. #AndersonOUT https://t.co/zaBK7G7Z3H Wow two sides and all that, but it's going to be very hard from KA (and his supporters) to come back from that one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 16 minutes ago, Sluffy said: Don't know why you keep banging on that KA hasn't any money in the club? I've posted this up a few times now - Company House records show he definitely has. https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/00335699/charges/GnCI0RQaH-nQFud7B9qttO5D4gA Oh yes - the money ED loaned to KA. Isn't Ken's money though is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted January 7, 2019 Moderators Share Posted January 7, 2019 i think you will find it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Ratwhite Posted January 7, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted January 7, 2019 #FGR chairman Dale Vince: “He said to me you can seek a winding up petition and you can bankrupt the club, I don’t care, I’m a secured lender I’ll get my money back” Lost for words. #AndersonOUT https://t.co/zaBK7G7Z3H THATS THE BIT THAT BROKE THE CAMELS BACK FOR ME... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeggyMountbatten Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Is it time to remove the "King" from the title of this thread? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Ratwhite Posted January 7, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted January 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, LeggyMountbatten said: Is it time to remove the "King" from the title of this thread? Id say its time to dethrone the king........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazl1212 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Genuinely disgusted that Anderson would say that and I've generally been a fan of him for the most part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 15 minutes ago, Casino said: i think you will find it is It is "his debt" not his money. And it very much depends what it has been secured against. If against the BL assets - then not Ken's issue! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaisyHWanderer Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 I’ve been neither in the Anderson in or out camp, realising that without him we’d probably have gone bust long ago but that we also can’t carry on as we’re going on for too much longee. Hearing them comments though, not sure how anyone can defend him. Enough is enough lets get this clown gone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itdiddidit? Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 7 minutes ago, Ratwhite said: Id say its time to dethrone the king........ he'll end up being debagged and dragging round the car park if this cracks on much more not that i would condone such activiity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmjhb Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 7 minutes ago, dazl1212 said: Genuinely disgusted that Anderson would say that and I've generally been a fan of him for the most part. This in a nutshell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 15 minutes ago, Ratwhite said: #FGR chairman Dale Vince: “He said to me you can seek a winding up petition and you can bankrupt the club, I don’t care, I’m a secured lender I’ll get my money back” Lost for words. #AndersonOUT https://t.co/zaBK7G7Z3H THATS THE BIT THAT BROKE THE CAMELS BACK FOR ME... As he really said that though? I’m not sticking up for Ken but here we have another chairman who’s obviously very pissed off with Ken at the moment. What better way to get back at him by suggesting to Bolton fans that Ken has said he doesn’t care? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sluffy Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 24 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said: whereabouts does it show it? and how much? clicked the link to the PDF, can see it's a loan or something but it doesn't say how much is this what makes him a secured lender who will get him his money back? The records don't show the amount, just that a 'charge' again assets have been made. This is 'securing' his loan against an asset/'s of the club so if the company does go into Admin or Liquidation he is higher up the pecking order so to speak than those who haven't 'secured' their 'credit' to the club. Whether he gets his full money back if or when the company goes into Admin/Liquidation depends on how much is available from the business to share amongst the remaining creditors. Top of the list for divvying up (at football clubs) is 'football' creditors, then secured creditors and finally unsecured creditors. I think KA's 'secured' loan falls in the category of football creditors anyway but even if it didn't he's the next in line. I would suspect he will probably get most if not all of the money he has secured against - but only when the Admin/Liquidator gets to the position of completing his work. Things may not go down this route anyway but I'm beginning to see it as a possible way out for him if Moonshift/PBP don't come to some arrangement with him behind the scenes or some White Knight turns up to buy him out first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazl1212 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, royal white said: As he really said that though? I’m not sticking up for Ken but here we have another chairman who’s obviously very pissed off with Ken at the moment. What better way to get back at him by suggesting to Bolton fans that Ken has said he doesn’t care? Surely Ken could sue him for that if he didn't say it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted January 7, 2019 Moderators Share Posted January 7, 2019 every chance he did say it hopefully and im rapidly losing hope, it was just bravado Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, dazl1212 said: Surely Ken could sue him for that if he didn't say it? I’m sure he could. Looks like it’s ones words against another’s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members burnden Posted January 7, 2019 Members Share Posted January 7, 2019 Just now, royal white said: I’m sure he could. Looks like it’s ones words against another’s. Unless the conversation was recorded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazl1212 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, royal white said: I’m sure he could. Looks like it’s ones words against another’s. True. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazl1212 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 1 minute ago, burnden said: Unless the conversation was recorded. Im sure you have to notify the other party if you record a conversation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted January 7, 2019 Moderators Share Posted January 7, 2019 Just now, royal white said: I’m sure he could. Looks like it’s ones words against another’s. so if KA comes out and says "I did not say that", will you believe he did not say that? the FGR doesn't need to get back at him, he just needs to explain what's going on, and if he has a legal case to persue, then persue it. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt that unlike KA, he doesn't use the media to slag off people he's pissed off with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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