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1 hour ago, royal white said:

Regardless of headlines in the local rag, don’t the supporters who pay into the trust deserve an explanation? I wonder if the Grass eater from Forest Green is aware of him (he donated a grand didnt he) and many others who have made donations.

He's also the bloke who has set up a company for the sole purpose to take over our club (and the only Director of it), been in discussions with potential investors (or so he claims) and has been speaking regularly on the TV and radio about the club's financial position recently and seems to be the current 'poster boy' of the ST.

 

Also while I'm at it - why didn't Iles ever report on Richard Hurst quitting as the inaugural Chairman of the ST even before the ST held it's first public meeting which was the reason why he was appointed for in the first place, nor why the second ever Chair Ian Bridge quitting suddenly too and both without any proper explanation as to why - both of whom were high profile at the time and reported on frequently by our papers esteemed football journalist?

Why didn't he report on the ST failing to hold their mandatory AGM in only it's second year of existence - whilst at the same time Iles and the ST were both criticising KA for not holding a public Q and A that he said he was going to do?

Seems to me that nothing critical has ever been written by Iles about the ST but everything critical of KA by the ST has been reported by him.  Hardly being even handed that being the case wouldn't a reasonable person think?

 

 

 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Sluffy said:

He's also the bloke who has set up a company for the sole purpose to take over our club (and the only Director of it), been in discussions with potential investors (or so he claims) and has been speaking regularly on the TV and radio about the club's financial position recently and seems to be the current 'poster boy' of the ST.

 

Also while I'm at it - why didn't Iles ever report on Richard Hurst quitting as the inaugural Chairman of the ST even before the ST held it's first public meeting which was the reason why he was appointed for in the first place, nor why the second ever Chair Ian Bridge quitting suddenly too and both without any proper explanation as to why - both of whom were high profile at the time and reported on frequently by our papers esteemed football journalist?

Why didn't he report on the ST failing to hold their mandatory AGM in only it's second year of existence - whilst at the same time Iles and the ST were both criticising KA for not holding a public Q and A that he said he was going to do?

Seems to me that nothing critical has ever been written by Iles about the ST but everything critical of KA by the ST has been reported by him.  Hardly being even handed that being the case wouldn't a reasonable person think?

 

 

 

 

 

I love your posts mate....you need to join in on some of the FB discussions :)

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27 minutes ago, royal white said:

I love your posts mate....you need to join in on some of the FB discussions :)

He needs to wallpaper the stadium with them. 

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43 minutes ago, royal white said:

I love your posts mate....you need to join in on some of the FB discussions :)

Honestly mate I don't!

It's impossible to get any nutjob to even see reason let alone consider there might be something in what you are trying to tell them.

It's a bit like one of those zombie apocalypse movies, were the brain dead have been infected by the Esteemed Journo/ST virus - and nothing you or anyone else can do or say can save them until Andersonville is brought down and King Ka flees.

It doesn't matter if his UniBol Palace is then Administered into little pieces and sold off to the little people and their high net worth friends and we drop down the great pyramid of the EFL to many tiers below where we are now - just as long as King Ka is overthrown and he takes Prince La with him.

I know I'm getting carried away now but I was taught never to fight battles you just can't win and this is one of them.

I'll still try and understand my best what's going on and post what I believe to be a true reflection of it (with links where I can) but you simply can't reason with the unreasonable - and it seems these days that people prefer to believe what Mr Thumb tells them on twitter, or enjoy a little evening stroll with a club legend (sans his teeth these days it seems?), than listen to some old weirdo like me with his facts and figures to hand.

The king is dead - God rest his tank tops.

Best of luck fighting the good fight on FB though!

 

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8 minutes ago, Sluffy said:

Honestly mate I don't!

It's impossible to get any nutjob to even see reason let alone consider there might be something in what you are trying to tell them.

It's a bit like one of those zombie apocalypse movies, were the brain dead have been infected by the Esteemed Journo/ST virus - and nothing you or anyone else can do or say can save them until Andersonville is brought down and King Ka flees.

It doesn't matter if his UniBol Palace is then Administered into little pieces and sold off to the little people and their high net worth friends and we drop down the great pyramid of the EFL to many tiers below where we are now - just as long as King Ka is overthrown and he takes Prince La with him.

I know I'm getting carried away now but I was taught never to fight battles you just can't win and this is one of them.

I'll still try and understand my best what's going on and post what I believe to be a true reflection of it (with links where I can) but you simply can't reason with the unreasonable - and it seems these days that people prefer to believe what Mr Thumb tells them on twitter, or enjoy a little evening stroll with a club legend (sans his teeth these days it seems?), than listen to some old weirdo like me with his facts and figures to hand.

The king is dead - God rest his tank tops.

Best of luck fighting the good fight on FB though!

 

Haha. I do fell like banging my head against the wall at times. Constantly going round in circles

“he needs to just fkin sell and go” 

err he is selling and wants to go

”well he needs to lower his fkin price”

what is his price? 

“50 million” (or any other figure they just make up)

”we need to go in admin”

”he needs to stop paying his son 250k a year”

You know the dance, it’s non stop.

anyway I’ve got Bonnar biting on twitter at the moment, I’ve asked him why he’s not reported on the trust....he decided to swerve that question! 

Oh, as for the club legend, well he’s apparently been on the phone today to one of the lads asking who I was as he’s seen my posts on FB :) they’re biting at the top now.

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5 minutes ago, royal white said:

Haha. I do fell like banging my head against the wall at times. Constantly going round in circles

“he needs to just fkin sell and go” 

err he is selling and wants to go

”well he needs to lower his fkin price”

what is his price? 

“50 million” (or any other figure they just make up)

”we need to go in admin”

”he needs to stop paying his son 250k a year”

You know the dance, it’s non stop.

anyway I’ve got Bonnar biting on twitter at the moment, I’ve asked him why he’s not reported on the trust....he decided to swerve that question! 

Oh, as for the club legend, well he’s apparently been on the phone today to one of the lads asking who I was as he’s seen my posts on FB :) they’re biting at the top now.

Excellent, made me smile reading that!  Have a well deserved plus 1.

I admit I can't understand people getting so het up about something that clearly they don't know much about.  Like him or loath him Anderson knows about business - I'm sure 99% of those calling for his head simple don't have a clue about one.  It's not like buying, running, then selling a car for instance that they might have experience of - I doubt many have any experience in running a business at all, or even a basic understanding of what cash flow entails.  Certainly no idea of what's involved in someone buying a business, particularly something like a multi-million pound football club subject to all sorts of rules specifically for them such as FFP.  Even if a billionaire did pop up and buy us - he/she is severely limited in how much they are allowed to invest in us - they can't just do an 'Eddie' overnight type thing anymore.

As for the ramifications of Administration, it's no longer the golden ticket to solve all our problems as people clearly believe it to be.

Have fun pulling people's chain on FB, I don't go on there myself, I've tried once or twice in the past but it's a mix between complete banality and the lunatics having taken over the asylum to me.

Apologies obviously to those of you who do love FB, it's just not for me.

PS, the clubs legend seems to be a bit toothless these days so we don't want him hurting his gums too much do we - go easy on him!

 

 

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2 hours ago, royal white said:

I love your posts mate....you need to join in on some of the FB discussions :)

He could join our tag team ;-)

That lad just kept going round in circles tonight to the point where he admitted to believing a rumour because Ken had denied it.

Every time you engage one of them, it always quickly goes back to "Ken should sell up or just walk away"

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I'm looking forward to the next message from Ken. Hopefully he will address the situation of hundreds of fans chanting "You greedy bastard, get out of our club" and both the East Stand and North Stand chanting in support of John McGinlay.It was difficult to assess the mood of the West Stand since there was no noise in favour of anybody.I did notice an Anderson out bedsheet in the WSL section next to the away end as the match started but that was about it from the West Stand

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1 hour ago, Roger_Dubuis said:

I'm looking forward to the next message from Ken. Hopefully he will address the situation of hundreds of fans chanting "You greedy bastard, get out of our club" and both the East Stand and North Stand chanting in support of John McGinlay.It was difficult to assess the mood of the West Stand since there was no noise in favour of anybody.I did notice an Anderson out bedsheet in the WSL section next to the away end as the match started but that was about it from the West Stand

What would you do if he took heed and left the club with immediate effect ?

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7 hours ago, Traf said:

He could join our tag team ;-)

That lad just kept going round in circles tonight to the point where he admitted to believing a rumour because Ken had denied it.

Every time you engage one of them, it always quickly goes back to "Ken should sell up or just walk away"

I was tempted to join in but just know it would drag me in.

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4 minutes ago, Ani said:

What would you do if he took heed and left the club with immediate effect ?

Blame Ken for us going under, obviously.

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3 minutes ago, Ani said:

I was tempted to join in but just know it would drag me in.

He's had a good 12 hours overnight to think it all through and all he has come up with is...

"If he badly wanted to sell then surely all these talks wouldn’t of broke down because he’d make them happen"
 

His actual words.

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1 hour ago, Roger_Dubuis said:

I'm looking forward to the next message from Ken. Hopefully he will address the situation of hundreds of fans chanting "You greedy bastard, get out of our club" and both the East Stand and North Stand chanting in support of John McGinlay.It was difficult to assess the mood of the West Stand since there was no noise in favour of anybody.I did notice an Anderson out bedsheet in the WSL section next to the away end as the match started but that was about it from the West Stand

It was kids after a boot off. 

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11 hours ago, Boothy said:

This is exactly my point. People don’t actually know but are passing it off as factual information. 

Iirc, ken himself said that it was paid over the change between two financial years.

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28 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Iirc, ken himself said that it was paid over the change between two financial years.

Which makes sense as a football season dosn't align itself with the fiscal calendar. And also suggests he didn't just take 525k in one hit.

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10 hours ago, royal white said:

Haha. I do fell like banging my head against the wall at times. Constantly going round in circles

“he needs to just fkin sell and go” 

err he is selling and wants to go

”well he needs to lower his fkin price”

what is his price? 

“50 million” (or any other figure they just make up)

”we need to go in admin”

”he needs to stop paying his son 250k a year”

You know the dance, it’s non stop.

anyway I’ve got Bonnar biting on twitter at the moment, I’ve asked him why he’s not reported on the trust....he decided to swerve that question! 

Oh, as for the club legend, well he’s apparently been on the phone today to one of the lads asking who I was as he’s seen my posts on FB :) they’re biting at the top now.

This is the problem with social media in a nutshell, every fuckwit has public voice to air their stupidity. 

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13 hours ago, Sluffy said:

I'm happy to hold my hand up and accept that I'm not infallible and do get things wrong from time to time but I do try and show my reasoning and source documents for the things I do say and try to be impartial as I can - even if it leads others to believe I'm pro KA (and anti the ST).

And understatement of the year goes to...

 

Are you available for Harvarding my assignments?

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2 hours ago, Traf said:

Which makes sense as a football season dosn't align itself with the fiscal calendar. And also suggests he didn't just take 525k in one hit.

Yep. It does concern me though, as Tom has pointed out, that some players had to wait till get their bonuses, that were contractually owed.

Putting to one side the merits of such, as that's a separate argument, doesn't help himself, but doing stuff like this. Adds to the concern.

If there was money for the consultancy fees available (which he said included his bonus), it would just rest easier if he'd paid up what was due first, rather than the public criticisms and delays.

I'm not going off on one against him like many; he just comes over as odious.

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But we don't know the timeline here.

Perhaps he was taking money on a regular basis and then a bonus later. 

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not sure the timeline is that relevant here? we know he took 525k in one year - and the promotion bonus can only have been paid between the last game of the season and 30th June

as for instalments, maybe, but the accounts for Inner Circle look to only show one payment paid in 2017, as opposed to several over 16/17, so it would probably suggest it was one lump sum - but you'd need someone who understands accounts to confirm that

the issue for me though was that he said he wasn't getting paid, and then admitted he was, so it's no wonder folk don't trust him

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8 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said:

not sure the timeline is that relevant here? we know he took 525k in one year - and the promotion bonus can only have been paid between the last game of the season and 30th June

as for instalments, maybe, but the accounts for Inner Circle look to only show one payment paid in 2017, as opposed to several over 16/17, so it would probably suggest it was one lump sum - but you'd need someone who understands accounts to confirm that

the issue for me though was that he said he wasn't getting paid, and then admitted he was, so it's no wonder folk don't trust him

Indeed. To be honest if he was taking a reasonable wage and was up front about it, then no issue.

Just pay those you should, when you should and then take your dibs.

 

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11 minutes ago, Bigtoe said:

Are you reading John and co?

No suprise he pissed several people off with his ill informed nonsense

https://www.bwfc.co.uk/news/2019/january/behind-the-scenes-with-jimmy-phillips/

Reading that makes it even more disappointing that we aren’t seeing them in the first team.

whether that be manager or circumstances (promotion or relegation every year).

Part of me doesn’t want us to get bought so we can’t just go out and buy players as it further restricts our youth having a chance

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