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Just now, ZicoKelly said:

Thanks KA for finally owning up to  what the accounts already told us, at least now some folk might stop pretending consultancy fees might mean something other than payments made to KA

It still doesn't answer the question whether that money was used to pay off Holdsworth rather than be put in his back pocket for him to piss it up the proverbial wall as the vast majority of people believe.

Also note it is paid in respect of two years and not £525,000 per year as many, many have been saying.

 

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2 minutes ago, Boby Brno said:

Semantics. Does no one see the irony in his explanation for the £525 fee he paid himself ( that was widely questioned) was a ‘bonus’ and yet he still hasn’t paid his manager his bonus for last season?

Did PP get his promotion bonus?

different year, different cash flow problems

 Not anywhere close to irony 

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1 minute ago, Boby Brno said:

Semantics. Does no one see the irony in his explanation for the £525 fee he paid himself ( that was widely questioned) was a ‘bonus’ and yet he still hasn’t paid his manager his bonus for last season?

Maybe he had the money last season (Madine sale perhaps?) and didn't have enough this year until recently?

Just a thought.

 

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Just now, Sluffy said:

It still doesn't answer the question whether that money was used to pay off Holdsworth rather than be put in his back pocket for him to piss it up the proverbial wall as the vast majority of people believe.

Also note it is paid in respect of two years and not £525,000 per year as many, many have been saying.

 

Fuck me

It doesn't matter what he did with the money he paid himself, the fact is he paid himself

And the point is on more than one occasion he said he didn't pay himself a wage as if to make it clear he was not receiving any monetary reward for the job he was doing

And now it turns out it's a fee which included a bonus! 

It's in the accounts for 2016/17, so it's a fee over the course of a year, because it spread over two years doesn't mean it's 260k a year, it's not 24 calendar months

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3 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said:

Fuck me

It doesn't matter what he did with the money he paid himself, the fact is he paid himself

And the point is on more than one occasion he said he didn't pay himself a wage as if to make it clear he was not receiving any monetary reward for the job he was doing

And now it turns out it's a fee which included a bonus! 

It's in the accounts for 2016/17, so it's a fee over the course of a year, because it spread over two years doesn't mean it's 260k a year, it's not 24 calendar months

Seems reasonable.

Can debate amounts; but saying one thing initially, then saying something else now- just adds to the mistrust and gives more fire to the likes of the daily mail.

 

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4 minutes ago, Biganddaft said:

So he had enough money to pay himself a bonus last year  but sadly he didn't have enough to pay the actual people who kept us up, sorry stinks

The bonus due to KA on promotion was paid

We dont know the bonus due to PP on promotion wasnt paid

These are the facts

We don't know about any other bonuses that KA may have paid himself

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Just now, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Seems reasonable.

Can debate amounts; but saying one thing initially, then saying something else now- just adds to the mistrust and gives more fire to the likes of the daily mail.

 

Not really, cos they are already claiming he pays himself 500 whatever a year

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32 minutes ago, Sluffy said:

Ok, I made the comment because of your 40 posts so far half a dozen or so have already been pointed in my direction, most of which seemingly having a pop at me.

I'm more than happy to have a virtual handshake with you and move on.(1)

For what it is worth I've never been pro or anti Ken (2), but just someone who has tried to understand what's going on by trying to match what little facts we have with what was being said by others (ST and Iles in particular) , rather than follow the crowd that seem to take their every word said as gospel.

Seems by simply doing that I've been marked down by more than a few as a big pro Ken supporter.

Holbrook speaking in respect of Iles and Bonner has admitted stated that they should have kept their emotions to themselves when reporting and also that they may have made mistakes with what they have said - fair play to him.  The ST's agenda against KA is widely known although many didn't see it from the beginning.  I also may have been wrong on my reasonings from some of the stuff I've posted - but it's certainly not been done because I've brought emotion into it, nor have any hidden agenda.

As I've already posted earlier on today in this thread, needs must in business sometimes and that KA is neither a saint nor the Devil but somewhere in between.  If you see that as an obvious man-crush then fair enough but I think we both know it isn't.

If it means anything at all, I always rated you highly as a poster and someone who could make people smile with your humour.  You would certainly make a great addition to this site if you decided to stick around, hope you do.

(No man-crush on you intended) (3).

(1) works for me (subject to 3 below)

(2) oooo, you fibber. Your posts do come across as very pro-Ken / anti-ST / anti-Iles.

(3) save it for Ken - he comes across as a bit vindictive, and we wouldn't want him getting jealous. And "no wakey do" would be a really shit T-shirt

 

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17 minutes ago, wakey said:

(1) works for me (subject to 3 below)

(2) oooo, you fibber. Your posts do come across as very pro-Ken / anti-ST / anti-Iles.

(3) save it for Ken - he comes across as a bit vindictive, and we wouldn't want him getting jealous. And "no wakey do" would be a really shit T-shirt

 

2 - No I'm not fibbing.  

I comment as I see things based on the facts or knowledge I have at the time.  I've certainly commented on how I believe the ST as a public body has acted in a way not compatible at times to how I understand one should act, I've similarly stated many times that Iles was acting unprofessionally in what he was posting on his own Twitter account - and I believe Holbrook's comments have since back that up, and I've said above my position on KA - up to you whether you believe that or not.

As for 1, I'm more than happy to make a fresh start and for 3, at my time in life I'm much to be old to be having crushes on anyone or thing - regrettably!

 

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16 minutes ago, Casino said:

Not really, cos they are already claiming he pays himself 500 whatever a year

That sort of makes my point. That fella yesterday published an inaccurate piece.

Now this.

On top of the BN.

Too much inaccuracy.

Just wish he would stop with the smoke and mirrors and give them no ammo.

I sometimes wonder if he enjoys the "game".

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